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gedassan
Profile Joined March 2010
Lithuania83 Posts
May 10 2010 09:19 GMT
#21
So what do terrans do successfully when they face this kind of play?
The way is made clear when viewed from above.
Thaum
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland1 Post
May 10 2010 09:43 GMT
#22
Do you mind posting these replays, as a replay pack perhaps? Or using some site other than rapidshare ;<
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
May 10 2010 10:51 GMT
#23
I want to see this get raped by zerg so that I can do the same thing
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DamageInq
Profile Joined April 2010
United States283 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 11:36:33
May 10 2010 11:08 GMT
#24
It seems effective as long as you can do enough damage the first time through. A build like this can easily be countered if the opponent is prepared. Here's what I'd suggest to help though-

Versus Zerg- Throw a Pheonix in the mix. It'll give you vision to blink and can be useful for taking out overlords to gain map control.

Versus Protoss- Observer. It'll give you vision for blink and help you take out their Observers.

Versus Terran- Run a single DT in first, attack until he scans, then move the rest in.
"Scissors are OP. Rock is fine." -Paper
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
May 10 2010 11:30 GMT
#25
more like "gay build"
Power is your Intelligence
ZergOwaR
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway280 Posts
May 10 2010 11:43 GMT
#26
seems like a pretty evil build hope i never run into it before it has a decent way to counter.. though i dont tend to make that many spines and rather depend on a mobile army, could help abit atleast against the stalkers
though it does take abit of skill and prac to pull of right? so my guess is that i wont face it until i improve to plat

and to fx_ great post... are you sure you dont need an power enhancer? to avoid such meaningful posts i mean...
dig dig dig dig dig dig die!
XVs
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine13 Posts
May 10 2010 12:25 GMT
#27
Very interesting strategy, thanks for sharing! However, it would be really nice if you could upload a replay pack somewhere on mediafire or megaupload, rapidshare just won't let me download anything from it -.-
Grhym
Profile Joined April 2010
177 Posts
May 10 2010 14:17 GMT
#28
Certaintly something to try out, thank you for sharing. As for getting vision, perhaps use hallucination? This saves you having to build a stargate.
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Back
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada505 Posts
May 10 2010 14:30 GMT
#29
Very entertaining replays and wonderful OP. I laughed out loud when your opponent's last viking was going to narrowly escape... then you hear "research complete" blink BOOM.

This will now be my build of choice to force me to practice micro.

Really noob question (i apologize): whenever you move stalkers around an enemy base or are kiting units, what command/method are you using to quickly made them stop/shoot every few seconds. Move-Hold-Move?
Grhym
Profile Joined April 2010
177 Posts
May 10 2010 14:49 GMT
#30
On May 10 2010 23:30 Back wrote:
Very entertaining replays and wonderful OP. I laughed out loud when your opponent's last viking was going to narrowly escape... then you hear "research complete" blink BOOM.

This will now be my build of choice to force me to practice micro.

Really noob question (i apologize): whenever you move stalkers around an enemy base or are kiting units, what command/method are you using to quickly made them stop/shoot every few seconds. Move-Hold-Move?


I think its move, A+click, move. Where to click is situational, but usually it's move away, a click behind the enemies blob, wait for the animation, repeat.
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palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 15:34:48
May 10 2010 15:33 GMT
#31
I tried this build a few times (EDIT: in PvT). pretty tough micro >.< and also important not to lose any stalkers.

Being able to deal damage with the stalkers seems very dependent on the map. If you can blink directly into or out of their mineral line, it seems a lot stronger (desert oasis, metalopolis.... a bunch of others if the terran has a fast expo).

The proper response to this kind of build I think is fast raven - PDD helps with stalkers if you get into a fight, and detection. If you see the tech for raven as you blink around/scout with fake phoenix, then I think the DT is pretty useless. I think the main point of the DT should be to continue keeping T in his base while you expo; raven negates this.

So instead of DT, 2 starports with tech probably means banshee so you need obs, 1 starport with tech probably means raven so you need HT (for feedback) or perhaps chargelots, or perhaps obs anyway? have to be vigilant about scouting in any case of cloaked banshees

You might also see marauder, so after DT harass (forcing turrets/raven) then probably best to get chargelots-->storm.
time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
Kinmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States104 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 16:44:34
May 10 2010 16:43 GMT
#32
On May 10 2010 23:30 Back wrote:Really noob question (i apologize): whenever you move stalkers around an enemy base or are kiting units, what command/method are you using to quickly made them stop/shoot every few seconds. Move-Hold-Move?

He's hitting Stop. This causes your units to stop moving and they'll automatically start shooting, then click to move them again.
"Dimaga getting just the right amount of banelings to kill 100% of everything!" - Day[9]
Stealthpenguin
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland393 Posts
May 10 2010 17:14 GMT
#33
I tried this and it worked great in all matchups. I only did it in PvP if I scouted voidrays though. Only lost once and that was to cloaked banshees that I didn't/couldn't scout in time.

I'm only in bronze league though so at higher levels it might not be as powerful.
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
May 10 2010 17:21 GMT
#34
I do this vs Z every game, the transition to templar tech is smooth and very effective, and stalkers are at least pretty effective vs anything the zerg throws at you and very good vs roaches lings and mutas (with good micro).
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
May 10 2010 17:21 GMT
#35
On May 10 2010 20:08 DamageInq wrote:
It seems effective as long as you can do enough damage the first time through. A build like this can easily be countered if the opponent is prepared. Here's what I'd suggest to help though-

Versus Zerg- Throw a Pheonix in the mix. It'll give you vision to blink and can be useful for taking out overlords to gain map control.

Versus Protoss- Observer. It'll give you vision for blink and help you take out their Observers.

Versus Terran- Run a single DT in first, attack until he scans, then move the rest in.



Hallucinate!
Morvan
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland38 Posts
May 10 2010 17:35 GMT
#36
Just upload the replays on a site so you can directlink, a good one without having to register:
www.topreplays.com

Dont you worry about Planet Express. Let me worry about blank.
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
May 10 2010 19:00 GMT
#37
It is painful to be T against this
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
May 10 2010 19:29 GMT
#38
This looks like a pretty sweet variant on my friend's Phoenix/DT build. His is safer, but has less potential for damage (except against zerg, where he can snipe all the Overlords and Queens and put Z way behind). I really like this, watching builds like this in action is why I keep playing Starcraft
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ccJroy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States483 Posts
May 10 2010 19:33 GMT
#39
Just want to put in my 2 cents here.

Great post, downloading all the replays right now to see how your doing it. A lot of the time i was using DT drops (early robo after my templar archives and then drop a DT shrine while i get my warp prism ready). If they werent ready obviously i could take out a whole mineral line with 1-2 DT's.

Glad to see other people using strats that incorporate a less used unit and are doing quite well. Not trying to say DT's arent used all the time, but compared to VR's and colossi and such.

Good work, thanks for the amazing post.
Lol Rly?
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
May 10 2010 19:34 GMT
#40
Really cool build, dude. Neat stuff.
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