I play random and I have to say I'm also pretty annoyed of it. So now I just decided to bunk up some Protoss only games for a while, and baby, its been good

Zerum

Sweden348 Posts

April 23 2010 10:28 GMT

#42

it's pretty awful T_T and the revert to larva is pretty annoying to because it makes 6/7 pool so much stronger T_T

diehilde

Germany1596 Posts

April 23 2010 10:37 GMT

#43

On April 23 2010 16:03 Joga wrote:
Add my voice to the chorus. This is an absolutely horrible change. Even the Spawn Larva button shows the number of eggs and larva - the number is meaningless. :\

lol omg, does blizzard even think before patching? honestly they gotta be kidding, this is like ten steps backwards in terms of UI. my faith in blizz was already low, but I still couldnt have imagined that theyd do such a terrible, terrible job.

Goatlust

Australia131 Posts

April 23 2010 10:53 GMT

#44

I really dislike this change too. Hopefully when they get rid of being able to cancel shit for no cost they'll change this back too.

NeoLearner

Belgium1847 Posts

April 23 2010 12:01 GMT

#45

It does? Because I would think this makes it more likely to be a bug than a "working as intended". I see no reason for this number to show, except a bug in some routine which now handles larvae and eggs the same...

I do hope they realize this is annoying and patch it next time. Works case scenario it was a bug, but they actually like it

collective

Canada138 Posts

April 23 2010 12:14 GMT

#46

can someone please log a bug for this...

MorroW

Sweden3522 Posts

April 23 2010 12:16 GMT

#47

they should just remove this crap, add a new icon and name it "Select Eggs"
i cant even imagine how annoying it must be for z users not being able to spam s all the time

blizzard is moving in the right direction in terms of balance but they r really sucky at this kind of stuff

AnodyneSea

Jamaica757 Posts

April 23 2010 12:20 GMT

#48

I guess it would be helpful only if i were to be cancelling a bunch of eggs but how often does that happen, there should be a separate key for select all eggs.. it was better before

Welmu

Finland3295 Posts

April 23 2010 12:49 GMT

#49

FishNChips

United Kingdom107 Posts

April 23 2010 12:57 GMT

#50

The new patch makes zerg macro soooo hard

collective

Canada138 Posts

April 23 2010 13:06 GMT

#51

bug logged here:
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24401613980&postId=243994695420&sid=5000#13

feel free to add your 2 cents to it

qoolqop

Sweden71 Posts

April 23 2010 13:39 GMT

#52

sign this

Marcox95

France7 Posts

April 23 2010 13:41 GMT

#53

Was reaaly better before imo

daywiss

United States83 Posts

April 23 2010 13:58 GMT

#54

these changes make me not want to play zerg anymore. burrow should of been moved to V, and inject could stay as R. removing wireframe casting is a big pain in the ass for me, i used it all the time, mainly for inject larva, but i also found it really useful for overlord drops, you cast drop on each overlord wireframe, so they drop while moving. i havent verified if this behavior has been removed.

Stropheum

United States1124 Posts

April 23 2010 14:24 GMT

#55

I know! It used to be while spamming buttons early game, waiting for larvae used to be 5sssssssssssssssssss. Now it's 5s5s5s5s5s5s5s5s5s5s5s5s which is the most annoying thing in the world. And you can't judge it based on the larvae you SEE, cause sometimes the eggs get in the way. This makes it really hard to scout and pump drones too. Bad move bliz

onmach

United States1241 Posts

April 23 2010 14:25 GMT

#56

Slightly off topic, but has anyone else been researching overlord transport accidentally when trying to inject? I'll keep mashing v click hatch, v click hatch and at some point, I must be out of energy and I click a hatch and press v, and I never even notice that I've upgraded transport.

Also with the egg thing, that really sucks a lot. It requires too much visual inspection and too many key presses to get your drones or units out on time. It is as if blizzard has no zerg players. I can't believe they'd ever do something like this to the other races.

HarryDG

Canada38 Posts

April 23 2010 14:34 GMT

#57

I agree with your OP Sheth, on both points about the select larvae and hotkey changes. I think they made it select building units if there's no larvae because they assume you would want to quickly select your queued units to cancel them if need be. I would like it to go back as well, since I'm typically spamming "s" waiting for larvae to pop out. I'd rather they put in a new hotkey to select all queued units on a hatchery.

Holaneko

United States3 Posts

April 23 2010 15:41 GMT

#58

i haven't been able to play the patch 9 yet, but wtf is this all about?

I read the patch notes, but I don't fully understand what the bitching is about.

Can someone explain this to me?

BlasiuS

United States2405 Posts

April 23 2010 15:46 GMT

#59

On April 24 2010 00:41 Holaneko wrote:
i haven't been able to play the patch 9 yet, but wtf is this all about?

I read the patch notes, but I don't fully understand what the bitching is about.

Can someone explain this to me?

The 'select larva' button (hotkey 'S' by default) now selects all eggs if there are no larva. Previously, it would just select nothing, while leaving the hatchery selected (it worked this way in BW also). It is very annoying, because many people spam the 'S' key when they are waiting for larva, which no longer works.

Now you have to re-select the hatchery every time you want to 'check' if there are new larva at a hatchery. This means it takes twice as many actions to macro consistently.