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Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
April 23 2010 06:04 GMT
#21
Selecing eggs with select larva is EXTREMELY EXTREMELY annoying

+1
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
April 23 2010 06:11 GMT
#22
I agree, I found it really annoying to keep selecting my eggs, I liked the way it was so I could spam s.

I don't mind the hotkey change much, but I just got my beta 3 days ago so it wasn't really ingrained in my muscle memory =]
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 23 2010 06:11 GMT
#23
i agree this is a *very serious* issue, more serious than anything else for zerg right now.
if they really want a way to select eggs right now, add a hotkey specifically for that, but this has to go.

if you dont understand play a game of zerg and you'll quickly see the problem. every time you're waiting for larvae to spawn, which is obviously a lot, it totally screws with your gameplay, and not something you can just 'get used to' like hotkey changes.

I wish a mod would move this to SC2 general and change the title to something like "Serious issue with Select Larva"
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
April 23 2010 06:13 GMT
#24
It's horrible and there's no possible scenario where I would rather have this mechanic than the old one. I posted about it on battle.net. I haven't seen one post that favours the new system.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
April 23 2010 06:32 GMT
#25
Sincerely hope they change this back in the next patch...

I haven't thought it through completely, but why would they not just change the hotkey for the upgrade? Seems like a way less intrusive to fix the problem.

About the hotkey change: I guess they needed to change this to avoid conflict. W was one of the global hotkeys. If you were to neural parasite a probe and build a warpgate there could be some conflicts.
I agree it's very annoying when hotkeys are changed. However, and I use this sentence with caution, we're still in beta and this is probably the only time in the game's lifetime where they can get away with it. I don't see they doing a change like this when the game has gone gold.
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
April 23 2010 06:33 GMT
#26
On the bright side it now requires more apm, 100% more. WOW what a change!

But seriously yeah it's annoying and the only positive thing about it is that now you wont be listening to the zerg voice saying "we need more mineraalllzzzzz".
Do you really want chat rooms?
Artisan
Profile Joined February 2010
United States336 Posts
April 23 2010 06:57 GMT
#27
Ya this is a pain no more spamming to instantly make a unit when the larva spawns
Joga
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3 Posts
April 23 2010 07:03 GMT
#28
Add my voice to the chorus. This is an absolutely horrible change. Even the Spawn Larva button shows the number of eggs and larva - the number is meaningless. :\
DrGabriel
Profile Joined January 2010
United States80 Posts
April 23 2010 07:34 GMT
#29
On April 23 2010 14:28 Feefee wrote:
I agree that's a change that takes adjustment, but you don't need to know anything about your larva timing. The select larva icon on the hatchery tells you the amount of larvae you have. It does mean you have to look at your bottom right if you're unsure if you have a larva or not but it's better than spamming 4s4s4s4s until you see there's a larva
\

the select larva icon now tracks eggs as well as larva. WTF right?
You cannot just 1a2a3a your way into the vajayjay.
codewarrior
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
April 23 2010 07:41 GMT
#30
I'd be pleased if the "Select Larva" button looked like an egg whenever it would only select eggs.
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
April 23 2010 07:57 GMT
#31
complete garbage changes.
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 23 2010 08:01 GMT
#32
On April 23 2010 16:41 codewarrior wrote:
I'd be pleased if the "Select Larva" button looked like an egg whenever it would only select eggs.

No decent player will ever want to look at those buttons.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-25 10:24:26
April 23 2010 08:11 GMT
#33
I AGREE WITH MASTER SHETH, REQUIRES US TO SPAM TWO KEYS CONSTANTLY TO MAKE A DRONE AND DELAYSSS, JUST CHANGE THE HOTKEY FOR THE VENTRAL SACKS NO NEED TO DO THIS USELESS EGGY SELECTION THANKSSSSSSS


User was temp banned for this post.
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ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 08:27:20
April 23 2010 08:24 GMT
#34
seriously, why didn't they just make ventral sacks K?

I think I can get used to spawn larvae being V and no more wireframe macro eventually, but the selecting eggs and counting eggs and larvae together thing is immensely terrible.
Wake up Mr. B!
CryGirl1921
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland78 Posts
April 23 2010 08:27 GMT
#35
On April 23 2010 15:32 NeoLearner wrote:
Sincerely hope they change this back in the next patch...

About the hotkey change: I guess they needed to change this to avoid conflict. W was one of the global hotkeys. If you were to neural parasite a probe and build a warpgate there could be some conflicts.
I agree it's very annoying when hotkeys are changed. However, and I use this sentence with caution, we're still in beta and this is probably the only time in the game's lifetime where they can get away with it. I don't see they doing a change like this when the game has gone gold.


But "W was used only for burrow, they could change burrow to B or U whatever but they did mess everything up and select larva system is RETARDED right now.

Burrow W>B
Spawn Larva R>R
Ventral Sacks V> eg. X or any other key

Select larva - old style.

Problem solved but no, Blizzard knows best.

BluBla
SpiDaH
Profile Joined March 2010
France198 Posts
April 23 2010 08:59 GMT
#36
Going protoss until they do something about it. I'm around 700 games down with zerg, no way I'm going through this bullshit. A bunch of my very high level zerg friends are going to do the same as well, when you are in the middle of a goddamn ESL tournament or something you don't have the time to count sheep while waiting for the right moment to spam your production of units, you do it automatically and mechanically and it works, period.

F this, it's the first time I actually rant about something since this beta came out, I got in with the first wave, been very patient with every single change they made since it's a beta, but this? really? V for queen macro is ok but the larvae? -_-

Sad panda going to bed, my 2cents etc...
ManiacTheZealot
Profile Joined December 2009
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 09:09:03
April 23 2010 09:05 GMT
#37
I played 36 games tonight and after a while you get used to it. It does end up making you click more when you're trying to get a larva that hasn't spawned yet. I feel like it was an unnecessary change since I never needed to select my eggs that often. Maybe other people do I dunno. Burrow changing to R really threw me for a loop and I haven't used it enough to get used to it yet so that's gonna take a while. Does anyone know what grid keybinds look like? I haven't checked yet.
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
April 23 2010 09:58 GMT
#38
Yeah I didn't see the issue with it before, isn't it part of the zerg playstyle to lose a few games becasue they made that greedy round of drones?

It just feels werid to have that constructing larva there...and unnecessary!

please change this back blizzard!
Bang!
FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
April 23 2010 10:09 GMT
#39
its very annoying. i have gotten used to the new key rebind for spawn larva from queen (a lot of V now in are buildings -.-)

makes u wonder if they really do test zerg, i think right now they focused on protoss/terrain.

the burrow change ....y??!?!?!?!!? i guess this is why the fucked up the queens spawn larva....srsly fucking pointless changes that annoy every zerg player..
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
April 23 2010 10:23 GMT
#40
This HAS to be a bug. It doesn't even make sense that "Select LARVAE" button would also select EGGS.
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