EPT(4) impregnable fortress 철옹성 1.5v - Page 2
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Phaenoman
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
On December 31 2014 19:33 Arceus wrote: New Code S map? This means the GSL wont follow the standard pool anymore aka reverting back to having exclusive map(s)? You guys should cheer to this wonderful news instead of judging the quality (which is still way better than, say, Inferno Pools) It's not completely terrible, and at least it's a different map in whats going to be all ladder pool tournaments again. for that reason I won't put to much criticism on it. the only problems with this map is that it's a better deadwing, in a map pool that still has deadwing On December 31 2014 19:34 Phaenoman wrote: I have to agree with Meerel here to a certain extend. Like a lot of other praised maps, this is very poorly done in terms of creativity and execution. Lotsa ppl here look at the creator's name rather than the work itself, including blizzard. That's a shame. I think a bigger problem is how gom seems to be just randomly taking in korean maps without much thought. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
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algue
France1436 Posts
On December 31 2014 20:28 Arceus wrote: Sure Korean maps are not always auto-awesome, but are foreign representatives aka Deadwing, Nimbus, Catallena, any better though? Same free n easy bases everywhere + huge huge layout recipe. Meanwhile the remotely different map in Foxtrot is despised and vetoed everywhere. Vote results of TLMC said everything:you guys just simply dont like interesting maps The thing is that on the custom maps section of teamliquid.net, all the regular posters were praising Foxtrot while hating on DeadWing and having mixed feelings about Nimbus and Catallena. However we were vastly outnumbered during the TLMC by those who never opened the map editor and voted for a map just because the textures looked cool or it was a 3p map or "lmao 20 bases, I love me some more bases. DAE Alterzim stronghold ? xDD" Sure foreign map aren't auto awesome but "our" TLMC and other map making contests are open to koreans while we can't even try to get our maps in the GSL (and let's not talk about trying to get them into Pro League) "Vote results of TLMC said everything:you guys just simply dont like interesting maps" This sentence would be true if you posted it on the "New WCS 2015 Season 1 maps" thread in the Sc2 general forum or on reddit. | ||
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Phaenoman
568 Posts
On December 31 2014 20:28 Arceus wrote: Sure Korean maps are not always auto-awesome, but are foreign representatives aka Deadwing, Nimbus, Catallena, any better though? Same free n easy bases everywhere + huge huge layout recipe. Meanwhile the remotely different map in Foxtrot is despised and vetoed everywhere. Vote results of TLMC said everything:you guys just simply dont like interesting maps No, u are absolutely correct. And unfortunately that's our main issue with all those maps and ppl/ blizzard judging. | ||
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
On December 31 2014 20:54 algue wrote: The thing is that on the custom maps section of teamliquid.net, all the regular posters were praising Foxtrot while hating on DeadWing and having mixed feelings about Nimbus and Catallena. However we were vastly outnumbered during the TLMC by those who never opened the map editor and voted for a map just because the textures looked cool or it was a 3p map or "lmao 20 bases, I love me some more bases. DAE Alterzim stornghold ? xDD" Sure foreign map aren't auto awesome but "our" TLMC and other map making contests are open to koreans while we can't even try to get our maps in the GSL (and let's not talk about trying to get them into Pro League) as algue said, the foreign mapmaking scene isn't anything like what you say, there is an insane communication gap between the ones that make maps and the ones that play them. the last TLMC was almost to be considered a joke. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On December 31 2014 20:28 Arceus wrote: Sure Korean maps are not always auto-awesome, but are foreign representatives aka Deadwing, Nimbus, Catallena, any better though? Same free n easy bases everywhere + huge huge layout recipe. Meanwhile the remotely different map in Foxtrot is despised and vetoed everywhere. Vote results of TLMC said everything:you guys just simply dont like interesting maps There are tons of really good foreign maps, but the wrong ones are usually picked ;; | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On December 31 2014 20:28 Arceus wrote: Sure Korean maps are not always auto-awesome, but are foreign representatives aka Deadwing, Nimbus, Catallena, any better though? Same free n easy bases everywhere + huge huge layout recipe. Meanwhile the remotely different map in Foxtrot is despised and vetoed everywhere. Vote results of TLMC said everything:you guys just simply dont like interesting maps Even as someone who doesn't browse the map forums often, I really really like Foxtrot and don't like Deadwing at all. At least of a casual low level player like me, I don't understand the mentality of wanting to play the same thing over and over again. Might as well just play a MOBA if you want only one map  For pros its a bit different, because they need to have near perfect understanding of a map nearly instantly or they're career suffers, but at the lower level I'm into trying new things. Not bad maps, but different ones. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On January 01 2015 01:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Even as someone who doesn't browse the map forums often, I really really like Foxtrot and don't like Deadwing at all. At least of a casual low level player like me, I don't understand the mentality of wanting to play the same thing over and over again. Might as well just play a MOBA if you want only one map For pros its a bit different, because they need to have near perfect understanding of a map nearly instantly or they're career suffers, but at the lower level I'm into trying new things. Not bad maps, but different ones. Honestly, I think this is the wrong attitude. They should be able to put in time into understanding completely how a map works and, by doing so, gain a slight advantage. Although I don't believe that one should be required to completely relearn strategy to play a map too often (see  Monty Hall). | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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MarlieChurphy
United States2063 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10095 Posts
On January 01 2015 07:02 The_Templar wrote: Honestly, I think this is the wrong attitude. They should be able to put in time into understanding completely how a map works and, by doing so, gain a slight advantage. Although I don't believe that one should be required to completely relearn strategy to play a map too often (see Monty Hall).hey man dont hate on monty hall. that map was the shit. legit best map ever for cheesing. | ||
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IeZaeL
Italy991 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZSdb6vG.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/k16jb6o.jpg) | ||
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IeZaeL
Italy991 Posts
EDIT : I updated lighting , ingame looks amazing. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BCKyfKl.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fUyW5ii.png) | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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ATTx
Korea (South)178 Posts
good design lol | ||
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Timetwister22
United States538 Posts
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-NegativeZero-
United States2141 Posts
On January 02 2015 12:02 ATTx wrote: hahaha good design lol Would you be able to get iezael's version used as the official GSL map? No offense but I think it looks a lot better than the original. | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
The layout overall is pretty boring. The Back paths by the 3rds aren't that interesting and the middle is boring. | ||
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