(4) impregnable fortress 철옹성 1.5v

On December 30 2014 20:28 ScorpSCII wrote:

It is mirror symmetry.

On December 30 2014 20:53 Meerel wrote:
one of the most boring standard and ugly map getting gsl and ladder again because a korean made it....gratz

just let me explain some things here: the idea of a equally far away third on a 4 player map and even on 2 player maps is used on almost every map that is posted on TL or elsewhere and was and is used in every single mappool since sc2 launched, so why do we need another one of those?
i wouldnt even consider making such a map becasue its just so fucking boring and non-creative, not even for 1 second.

the whole color scheme is weird, i mean grey works with everything but it still looks weird, the texture job is questionable, the choice to use natural textures on highgrounds with metalcliffs reminds me of those *hey i made map for the first time* guys.

the warcraft symbol is cool but totally out of context. i know you koreans think its all shiny and skillfull to make so ofc the mapmaker will be praised or whatever. Its really not hard to do if you can just use the doodad thats in the game, rescale it and paint underneath you know...

and the icing on the cake, xel naga in the middle, thats just the most obvious point that shows how much thought was put into this one. it screams 'fuck you western scene, you dont even exist, lawl'

i seriously could make this map in 20 minutes, looking better both in layout and design but hey lets reward the korean semi-good mapmakers for they glorious skills and ignore the western scene forever......fuck yeah

On December 31 2014 15:19 FlaShFTW wrote:
Meerel, i dont understand what you mean by far away 3rd. the 3rd/4ths seem easy enough to take and it doesnt really make it too difficult.

the map is a bit too big for my personal taste, i dont really know how to go about critiquing this one.

On December 31 2014 20:28 Arceus wrote:
Sure Korean maps are not always auto-awesome, but are foreign representatives aka Deadwing, Nimbus, Catallena, any better though? Same free n easy bases everywhere + huge huge layout recipe. Meanwhile the remotely different map in Foxtrot is despised and vetoed everywhere. Vote results of TLMC said everything:you guys just simply dont like interesting maps

On December 31 2014 20:28 Arceus wrote:
Sure Korean maps are not always auto-awesome, but are foreign representatives aka Deadwing, Nimbus, Catallena, any better though? Same free n easy bases everywhere + huge huge layout recipe. Meanwhile the remotely different map in Foxtrot is despised and vetoed everywhere. Vote results of TLMC said everything:you guys just simply dont like interesting maps

On January 01 2015 01:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:


Even as someone who doesn't browse the map forums often, I really really like Foxtrot and don't like Deadwing at all. At least of a casual low level player like me, I don't understand the mentality of wanting to play the same thing over and over again. Might as well just play a MOBA if you want only one map

For pros its a bit different, because they need to have near perfect understanding of a map nearly instantly or they're career suffers, but at the lower level I'm into trying new things. Not bad maps, but different ones.

On January 01 2015 07:02 The_Templar wrote:

Honestly, I think this is the wrong attitude. They should be able to put in time into understanding completely how a map works and, by doing so, gain a slight advantage. Although I don't believe that one should be required to completely relearn strategy to play a map too often (see Monty Hall).

On January 02 2015 12:02 ATTx wrote:
hahaha

good design lol

On January 02 2015 12:02 ATTx wrote:
hahaha

good design lol

On January 02 2015 17:40 Phaenoman wrote:
Tho the same map, at least it looks very clean. Here is a suggestion @ IeZaeL:

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 03 2015 05:32 IeZaeL wrote:
I present you the very first 3-man made starcraft2 map , by the mighty trio ATTx , IeZaeL , Uvantak

On January 03 2015 06:18 Semmo wrote:
Wait, GSL agreed on using your version?

On January 03 2015 06:18 Semmo wrote:
Wait, GSL agreed on using your version?

On January 03 2015 09:33 magnaflow wrote:
IF this is being used in WCS can we expect to see it on the ladder?

On January 03 2015 05:32 IeZaeL wrote:
I present you the very first 3-man made starcraft2 map , by the mighty trio ATTx , IeZaeL , Uvantak

On January 03 2015 21:45 algue wrote:
I'm surprised no one complained about this : the thirds can be sieged from the other side of the gap between the pods. It seems that it's a big deal since it was one of the reasons why close position was removed on Deadwing.

On January 03 2015 22:00 IeZaeL wrote:

I guess it has to do with the fact that the bases are pretty close and the ramps are much closer to what they are on deadwing. Plus deadwing had rocks to abuse that lowground path.

On January 04 2015 01:59 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Wow, this is the innovation we get after 4½ years of SC2. Tremendous.

On January 03 2015 09:45 -NegativeZero- wrote:

Hopefully it replaces one of the planned blizz maps, it's better than all 3 of them.

Edit:

Are you so sure about that? In fact you of all people should know, lol.

Also I present to you a 5-man starcraft 2 map, by the mighty quintet NullCurrent, Johanaz, Meltage, Mereel, and Lefix.

On January 04 2015 01:59 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Wow, this is the innovation we get after 4½ years of SC2. Tremendous.