[M] (5) New Pompeii - Page 2

1. So do you try similar things or just copy-past original tileset with different landscape layout?
2. Give me example of lighting set / colors / fog effects, which aren't standard for any tileset? I can give only some - Cloud Kingdom, which was very blurred and turned into standard light set by tournaments. Check Red City map - this is great example of it. Red water, slighty red lighting - THATs really something new and feels like a completely new and unique map.
3. Same as for 2.
4. Yes, they are. I don't say that there is something wrong with them. I say, that you should experiment more. Check Polar Night - this winter map si different from other winter maps, like Yeonsu or Frost. Frost also is very nice example of non-standardness.

Your work is nice, ruins, landscape layout is also unique for 5 player map. But the problem is that your map isn't memorable, like Neo Planet S or Habitation Station or Frost or Red City. Those maps are nice AND unique.

Here are another row of examples:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=438849
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=438301
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=438545
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=438150
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=437925
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427469
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=437606

I don't say that these protoss ruins are bad, I mean, you can do more. Something that makes your map better and nicer than original Shattered Terrace.


Here are another examples of how unique things can make map memorable and cool. If you want more constructive ideas, here are:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=413672 - dark green lighting, orange doodads, trees, green fog, twilight light set, etc.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423038 - merge of nature and desert tilesets is simple and nice example of map uniqueness

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416980 - those doodads on the water and water itself with lava in the corners - small example, why it looks nice.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=421999 - crazy and epic example of how imagination can be used. The map name fits well everything - crazy orange fog of war, zergy doodads in the unpathable zones, greeny light set. That REALLY looks like a nightmare or hell, or probably both.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=421359 - simple and unique.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=419393 - great example of how BW and SC2 styles on one map synergies in a good unique tileset.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427155 - winter and Protoss'ish relics/doodads

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427121 - nice and does not feels standard


You wanted constructive criticism? Here it is. I listed tons of examples of what you can try. I don't say that your map is bad, just try to make it EVEN MORE BETTER. Add something, modify something, add many waterfalls, add rain, add slightu darker light set like sunset, or something like that. Make it looking different from Shattered Terrace.

Don't be agressive. Those comments from me about standardness of your map are adressed not only to you. I just want you to add more uniqueness to your work, so each of your work will be memorable and look interesting from eachother.

Good luck and have fun with creating other maps.


I already listed some examples of really unique maps and tries to make map unique looking from others.


For me, standard maps are just same tileset / light / doodads / etc as original map. Non-standard maps are maps which have something that makes them unique. For example lava rift on the Frost map, or Polar Night lighting with snow everywhere, or Red City light set, red water and buildings in the water or red-textured middle part of the map.