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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WFenV5G.png) Overview Officially uploaded to [SEA] [NA] [EU] [KR] ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j6JVP8Y.jpg) Officially uploaded to [SEA] [NA] [EU] [KR] Map Details Name Zepphyr Jungle Version 1.0 (28/07/2013) Bounds 128x134 Bases 12 Normal Yield Rush Distances 60 seconds (worker speed) Eye Candy Change Log | ||
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partouf
Netherlands405 Posts
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Semmo
Korea (South)627 Posts
^_^.... ^_^.... ^_^.... ^_^.... ^_^... The third is kinda cool | ||
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
On July 28 2013 21:03 Semmo wrote: Phaeton + Zerus ^_^ ^_^.... ^_^.... ^_^.... ^_^.... ^_^... The third is kinda cool <3 I couldn't get rid of that little pathway just yet, I wanna see how it goes! | ||
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Italy991 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
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your Country52797 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
Third is easy, but... the interesting options for putting pressure on it make it okay maybe. I could see a really interesting fast 3rd metagame on this map. (For P and T.) One thing I might change, that big open low ground area at 1/7 that doesn't really lead anywhere, why not cut back the edge of the ground and provide some more air space next to the main? I think this would be more "fair" for current map standards for air vulnerability and it would give another option for pressure on a fast-easy-3rd. [edit] Seriously beautiful doodads. | ||
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lorestarcraft
United States1049 Posts
I do think this is a really cool map. I like the third, faster path to the backdoor than to the natural ramp bothers me some, but I think the flow of the map is actually good. | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
 Seems like backdoors are becoming more popular, which is great. One tiny nitpick, I think one of the geysers at the nat is not 100% efficient. Not a big deal but maybe worth looking into. | ||
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FlyingBeer
United States262 Posts
The biggest issue with backdoor rocks is how does Terran defend two-base all-ins since bunkering in two locations isn't really feasible. I think the best way to resolve this is with a longer rush distance to that location. Terran can easily bunker their natural in such a way that the enemy can't walk past the bunkers to attack the rocks, so would have to go to the backside to attack, but from the third, the enemy can threaten the main and natural simultaneously. That distance is a little further but maybe not far enough given the incredibly short distance between the main and natural attack points on this map. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On July 29 2013 07:38 FlyingBeer wrote: I'd worry about the rush distance from the natural to the backdoor rocks entrance. The biggest issue with backdoor rocks is how does Terran defend two-base all-ins since bunkering in two locations isn't really feasible. I think the best way to resolve this is with a longer rush distance to that location. Terran can easily bunker their natural in such a way that the enemy can't walk past the bunkers to attack the rocks, so would have to go to the backside to attack, but from the third, the enemy can threaten the main and natural simultaneously. That distance is a little further but maybe not far enough given the incredibly short distance between the main and natural attack points on this map. For the ZvT bust scenario, I think it's reasonable that the terran can wall the top of the backdoor ramp with their infrastructure while holding the usual timing at their nat, and have a tank out to put on the cliff between the two areas totally shutting down any prolonged bounce back and forth play. | ||
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FlyingBeer
United States262 Posts
On July 29 2013 11:15 EatThePath wrote: For the ZvT bust scenario, I think it's reasonable that the terran can wall the top of the backdoor ramp with their infrastructure while holding the usual timing at their nat, and have a tank out to put on the cliff between the two areas totally shutting down any prolonged bounce back and forth play. I assume you're referring to a 2-base roach bust? Most terran build orders don't have a tank out by 7:00 do they? I'm also thinking of some protoss 2-base timings. 5gate/5Oracle all-in, Immortal/Archon all-in, etc. where Terran frequently never gets a tank. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On July 30 2013 11:08 FlyingBeer wrote: I assume you're referring to a 2-base roach bust? Most terran build orders don't have a tank out by 7:00 do they? I'm also thinking of some protoss 2-base timings. 5gate/5Oracle all-in, Immortal/Archon all-in, etc. where Terran frequently never gets a tank. What I was trying to say is that you might need to alter your build a little but doing so makes defending much easier. Adapting to the map and all. | ||
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