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On December 23 2012 02:59 RiFT_ wrote:
Luminous, you are spot on with almost all of your points.

In regard to DT's being overpowered late game, the figment ability is initially on cooldown so you cannot use it until 30s after they warp in. The current ammo system isn't ideal, but having it in an unlimited form made them too similar to swarm hosts. We made the figments do damage because it gives you the option to use the ability both offensively and defensively. It may have been a mistake, but we are still experimenting at this point. Blink and some form of invulnerability have been popular suggestions for DT abilities. Up to this point we have been avoiding blink because we wanted it to be unique to the stalker still. Invulnerability spells are fun, but frustrating to be on the receiving end of, especially if he just walks up to your tanks despite your detection or escapes when you had him trapped.

It is worth noting that the roach warren costed no gas, it was on this basis as well as the hydra den cost from BW that we decided to set it at 25. What would change if it costed 50? It feels like that just rules out more options than it creates. How does the hydra range upgrade feel with not being able to shoot air? Is it intuitive? Is the upgrade worth rushing over something like ling speed?

We've toyed with having roaches faster (3) while burrowed and slower (2.5) above ground. While it might be fun to use, it would be somewhat counter-intuitive. I am opposed to it but the rest of the team likes it, so it might go in. The burrowed roach armor was intentionally silly so it made a noticeable impact. Yes, high attack speed low damage units are going to struggle vs armor, but you are trying to kill a cockroach with tickle guns. A few marauders fare pretty well. It will probably be reduced in the near future, we just wanted a way for them to feel more resilient underground with giving them glial reconstitution levels of regen.

The ultra is a walking death machine, especially with the new HotS flat damage. Dylan was the only one pushing for the cost reduction since one of the focuses of our mod was to address supply inflation. Pathing over lings has been another popular suggestion and will probably show up in a patch this week.

Juggernaut plating was overkill, it made marauders amazing against almost everything aside from air units. Currently it is gone and we are considering increasing marauder base armor to 2 (I mean it has more armor than a zealot doesn't it?). This is mainly in exchange for the possibility of lowering its range to 5 and a possible upgrade for range 6. With hydras as medium and immortals at 5 range, marauders were dominating t1.5. Something we are looking into, we don't have the answer quite yet on that.

Basis for the carrier buff was that it was underperforming before and the BW carrier had base 4 armor (I was shocked too). We might have to tone down either the armor or the launch speed.

Thors are at an interesting place. Their base armor and immortality protocol makes them really difficult to kill. Our only negative review on the arcade appears to be a troll raging that one Thor killed his 24 Mutalisks (Thors no longer shoot up, so.....). Having it as a research would only put off really early Thor pushes, which haven't been an issue yet. I'm not sure how we could require an SCV to repair thor wreckages, maybe give the scv an ability that can only target thor wreckages. It would be interesting because you could snipe the scv and stop him from reviving the thors, so that is a really good suggestion.

We agree that the stalker isn't in the right place yet, next patch we are reverting the blink cooldown and research changes. I would prefer lower base health on stalkers, but we have yet to test that. Phoenix are slightly more bearable because we haven't given them 5 range like HotS. We have considered increasing mutalisk speed to 4, but we are going to see if the regen makes a difference before doing that.

FF costing more and having an equivalent increase to health would almost be a straight nerf. Since FFs are neutral, you have to focus fire them manually and most people are not on top of that, so this would just mean fewer force fields. If this was your intention, I apologize for misinterpreting. FF is so much weaker with robo sentry and destructible, we are hesitant to nerf it again.

The current version of the colossus is ugly, we agree. It still remains an a-move unit for the most part, but it really isn't consuming the protoss's apm so much as the opponent trying to dodge it. The tempest has gone a long way towards solving war of the worlds in PvP, but we were hoping to create a unit that produced micro that was both visible and had an impact. Unfortunately, it results in the colossus being frustrating for high level protosses and facerolling at lower levels where people just a-move.

Yes the patch notes need to be updated and we hope to put out a new patch this weekend with some interesting things in store for mech AA. Hopefully our ideas aren't too outrageous and thank you for your feedback.