Its one week out from the final submission date and we've already got a number of cool entries in our inbox. We've been really excited to see the positive reaction from the community for this tournament. So keep those submissions coming over in the submission thread for your chance to win your share of $150.
The Pros
The following mappers will serve as the 'pro' mappers for this competition.
Timetwister22 Twimtwister22 came to fame with a shock placing in the top 7 of the TLMC. He was quickly recruited to the ESV mapping team and is producing a ton of maps for them. 'Frigid Pass' was selected for use for a Dream Hack and a number of his other maps have been used in the ESV weekly.
monitor monitor is one of the key organisers behind the MotM each month. As a member of the ESV mapping team, he has produced a number of maps including 'Korhal Compound' which was selected for use in the ladder after it placed third in the TLMC.
lefix lefix is a member of the TPW mapping team and has had five maps place in finals of MotM, which shows his skill with the editor. His map 'Odyssey' has seen significant competitive play in the NASL and NASTL. He also plays a significant role in the organisation of MotM.
Ragoo Ragoo is one of the most active posters in the mapping forum and regularly posts useful feedback on maps. He is on the TPW mapping team and has produced a number maps which have made the finals of MotM. His map 'Twilight Peaks' placed in the Top 7 of TLMC.
iGrok iGrok is an absolute mapping legend and the founder of MotM. Recently he has picked up serious mapping again and is producing some awesome maps. He is most known for his epic lighting packs and detailed breakdown of how lighting works in SC2.
Icetoad As the youngest member of TPW, Icetoad is brimming with talent and ambition. Before joining TPW he headed the LoS mapping team which focused on producing a few super high quality maps, rather than a massive map pool. He is probably best known for his map 'Elder Roots'.
Namrufus Namrufus was recently recruited to ESV and is a mapper brimming with potential. Having been an active member of the TL map forum for years, he has picked up and absorbed a ton of knowledge and become a truly skilled mapper. He placed in the last edition of MotM, and there will surely be more of those to come.
Gfire Unlike most mappers, Gfire has found a lot of success with 4p maps. Indeed his recent results in the MotM put him on ESV's radar who quickly recruited him to the team. Like Namrufus, he is another mapper who has been around for a while who has transformed into a very skilled mapper.
Meltage Meltage is one of the foundation members of TPW and has produced quality maps for a long time. His map 'Overgrown' was considered for use in NASTL. He is known in the community for his relentless refinement of his maps and always strives for high quality finished product.
NullCurrent NullCurrent is one of the key administrative members of TPW, as well as a very talented mapper. He is probably best known for his map 'Concrete Dreams' which is a work of art (and surprisingly good FPS wise). He is quite a picky mapper, and is allergic to bad rotational symmetry.
Johanaz Johanaz has a reputation as the best aesthetic designer in the mapping community. His maps are actually pieces of art and made the 'Map Art' thread on TL. But his maps aren't just pretty, they're also very playable. As a member of TPW, he has made many maps which have placed in the finals of MotM.
IronManSC IronManSC is a member of the ESV mapping team and has had quite a remarkable career thus far. His map 'Ohana' has found enormous success in the community and placed second in the TLMC. It has also been included in the ladder and is a tournament staple. He is a 2 player map specialist.
The Order
The pro mappers were arranged in alphabetical order and assigned a number corresponding to this order. Then the computer algebra system GAP to create a random permutation of S_12. The order of the elements in S_12 dictated the order in which the pros will select their maps from the entries. The order is as follows:
1) Timetwister22 2) iGrok 3) Johanaz 4) monitor 5) IronManSC 6) lefix 7) Ragoo 8) Meltage 9) Namrufus 10) NullCurrent 11) Gfire 12) Icetoad Time is running out for you to submit your entries. Go and consult the submissions thread for all the details about that (do NOT post your maps in this thread!!!!). Remember to get your submissions in by the 13th of July!
On July 07 2012 06:36 WniO wrote: so what the hell are people like me supposed to do with this?
If you don't fall under the pro category, then you are free to submit maps (I think). I believe all of the invites for pros went out, and we don't need more than what we've got at the moment. Sorry that we didn't let you know.
On July 07 2012 06:36 WniO wrote: so what the hell are people like me supposed to do with this?
If you don't fall under the pro category, then you are free to submit maps (I think). I believe all of the invites for pros went out, and we don't need more than what we've got at the moment. Sorry that we didn't let you know.
damn it. i wonder how far down the waiting list i am probs at the very bottom xD
On July 07 2012 06:36 WniO wrote: so what the hell are people like me supposed to do with this?
If you don't fall under the pro category, then you are free to submit maps (I think). I believe all of the invites for pros went out, and we don't need more than what we've got at the moment. Sorry that we didn't let you know.
damn it. i wonder how far down the waiting list i am probs at the very bottom xD
On July 07 2012 06:36 WniO wrote: so what the hell are people like me supposed to do with this?
If you don't fall under the pro category, then you are free to submit maps (I think). I believe all of the invites for pros went out, and we don't need more than what we've got at the moment. Sorry that we didn't let you know.
damn it. i wonder how far down the waiting list i am probs at the very bottom xD
Well, there is a limbo of mappers who aren't eligible to submit, due to placing in a contest or whatever, but aren't on this list. Kind of a flaw in the format. There are probably too many ineligible to submit to all be invited as pros, if too many of them wanted to, and some of the guys who won like a motm a year and a half ago or something might not really be qualified.
Kinda awkward no matter how you go about it. The format kinda needs that group of in-betweens to be excluded to separate the sides, since there's no clear place to divide it. You don't want the amateur maps to be too good, or there won't be enough to improve (and if all the pros pick the best maps which don't need to improve, it's not doing much good,) but also you have to make sure that the pros are good enough that they can improve the maps enough. There sort of has to be a sort of semi-pro group that's excluded from either side.
For this motm, though, I think they asked some of the more recently-active non-eligible people until they got enough to be pros. Not necessarily based in skill or amount of success overall. Seems like a decent method, I guess.
Each pro selects a single map from the submitted map pool. If a Pro selects a map made by Amateur A then any other maps by A are removed from the pool. If there is a conflict (Multiple pros selecting the same map or, I assume, multiple maps by the same amateur being selected) then the pro higher up on the list will get priority.
At the end of the day there will be twelve maps selected, each by a different person.
On July 07 2012 06:36 WniO wrote: so what the hell are people like me supposed to do with this?
If you don't fall under the pro category, then you are free to submit maps (I think). I believe all of the invites for pros went out, and we don't need more than what we've got at the moment. Sorry that we didn't let you know.
damn it. i wonder how far down the waiting list i am probs at the very bottom xD
Nahh, you're above me.
*Checks the list*
Actually, neither of you are on here...
Wait a sec, neither is Superouman...
Something's not right here...
What maps has Orange Juice made?
...
This is my grocery list.
For some reason I read that last line with the old spice commercial voice ...
Good luck to all the ametures, and may the best maps win And thanks to all the pro's who are willingly participating and taking their time to share knowledge and experience.
On July 14 2012 03:48 ArcticRaven wrote: Why couldn't there be more pros ? I feel like with so many submissions out there there definitely is room for other ones (like me :'( )
I'll let you be one of the pros if you pick one of my maps. XD XD XD
They should allow freelance pros who are not officially selected, but can still pick a map from the left over amateur pool if the amateur is willing, and then together post the map for official judging.
On July 14 2012 03:54 Sea_Food wrote: They should allow freelance pros who are not officially selected, but can still pick a map from the left over amateur pool if the amateur is willing, and then together post the map for official judging.
I applaud the thought process behind this idea. I officially jump onto this bandwagon.
On July 14 2012 03:54 Sea_Food wrote: They should allow freelance pros who are not officially selected, but can still pick a map from the left over amateur pool if the amateur is willing, and then together post the map for official judging.
That's actually a very good idea. They would have to start picking maps after all the officially selected pros have announced theirs in the thread and go by "first come(post) first served" rule. If organizers agree of course.
Credability is credability.. if someone who's not officially selected.. wouldnt that comprimize the credability for other pros? I see conflict in the distance.
The credability is on the list that says they are "pro" for the sake of this tournament, which renders them unable to participate in the initial mapmaking submission. I think the point is that it is a lot of wasted talent to just sit on the sideline and cheer instead of either A) submitting a map for consideration, or B) helping to improve another's map. If they are good enough not to submit, they should be good enough to help a map improve, no?
Well that sounds a little black and white to me.. Where from my understanding.. what your saying as "pro" I find a difference between "not amateur".. and "pro".. atleast thats what i got out of it.
So i belive that theres something inbetween.. like the good old Elder scrolls ranks. Novice, Journeyman, Adept, Expert and Master. where maybe master is "pro". and Novice is amateur.
atleast i dont think its easy to just put a whole lot of different talents into the same group.
There may be some on the "not amature" list who are not as proficient as those who were chosen, but if they are on the list they still should reasonably have something to offer an amature. The contest is to improve an amature map from someone with the right know how. If a "not amature" has enough of the right know how not to submit an amature map, they should have something to over an amature map by way of improvement. Whether or not they have the talent to win ought to be up to the judges. If the only people who have a shadow of a chance are the ones on the officially approved "pro" list (from this thread), then one of them is going to win anyway. But I see no reason why someone like ArcticRaven should be barred from volunteering his time to help another mapper improve a map just because he wasn't a top pick. If the amature learns something from him in the process, then it's a win situation even if the improved map doesn't win the contest (or come close).
The only negative I can see really is if an non-picked "not amature" picks a map, contacts the amature, and the amature rejects the offer. But, I'm not sure how likely this is to happen since Ragoo has already been selected as a pro. XD XD XD
EPT
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probs at the very bottom xD
