• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:34
CEST 06:34
KST 13:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed15Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed Who will win EWC 2025? The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Server Blocker
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Soulkey Muta Micro Map? [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational 2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2025!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 595 users

[M] (4) TPW Concrete Dreams

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
NullCurrent
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden245 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 14:58:10
September 14 2011 19:12 GMT
#1
[image loading]
[image loading]


Version: 1.6
Uploaded on: EU (1.6), US (1.6)

+ Show Spoiler [Change Log] +

1.6
  • Fixed minor cliff visibility issues

1.5
  • Played around a bit more with the lighting (thanks to iGrok for some inspiration)
  • Made the center bases into 8 minerals + 2 gas for blizz contest
  • Changed the fog colour to a red-brown variant to make it look more like a wasteland
  • iGrok added some omnilights, makes the doodads look even more awesome!
  • Very minor fixes to pathing and placement grid (some doodads off the map still had a footprint edging into the map)

1.4 (internal release)
  • Tweaked lighting a tiny bit
  • Reverted the range of the Xel'naga Watchtower from 14->22 because of contest
  • Used the height tool to make the textures "pop" more

1.3 (SEA only)
  • Copied language strings to SEA locale

1.2
  • Fixed mineral placement on top right and bottom left natural
  • Reshaped holes around XWT to do away with the small chokes which prevented Siege Tanks and Thors from reaching the tower
  • Made the little corner on the lowground next to the third ramp and highground pod unpathable
  • Added no-fly-zones to a high building in top right corner and to cranes in the port to prevent players from hiding air units inside them
  • Moved some doodads and resized them to make it impossible to hide units inside them
  • Moved the cars and trashcan in the middle of the map and added unpathable square beneath them to prevent hiding marines and zerglings inside them
  • Increased exposure for the lighting, to make it easier to see units
  • Removed large garage doodad from the cliff edge on the bottom left main and replaced with other doodads, this to fix a building placement issue (doodads with a building footprint still keep it even though "Don't Use Doodad Footprint" is checked)
  • Lowered a building made out of cliffs in the lower left corner from level 3 cliff to level 2 cliff, this to prevent air units from hiding from units placed in the natural (which is on level 2)
  • Filled the little hole next to the rocks leading to the third (the crevice in the highground pod extending from the main), this to prevent units from hiding there
  • Lowered parts of the highground pods next to the natural -> third ramp to prevent units from hiding behind that 2 step cliff drop


1.1
  • Fixed pathing in a few highgrounds outside the normal ground pathing area



This map is meant to be a stable macro-ish 4-spawn map. I began with the terminus idea of a main-nat-third, but opened up the third and made the natural wall behind the ramp down to the third, this to make it harder to reach that 3-base which is very common on terminus. It is smaller, as I feel that Terminus is a bit too large, and I have compensated by adding additional paths through the middle and a watchtower which covers most of the middle ground.

So the main differentiating feature compared to terminus is how the third and its backdoor is placed; it enables for easier counter attacks and also an additional path to use to break a contain. It also opens up the map more and enables a better expansion pattern than what terminus does.

We have really tried to create a unique aesthetic feel for this map, and I hope you agree with us. The basic idea was an abandoned city which is partially destroyed and decayed.

This map will be used in NASL Open Tournament which will happen between 2nd and 9th October.

Hope you like it!

Overview:
[image loading]
Tilted Overview
Warning: ~4 MiB files

Stats:
Name: TPW Concrete Dreams
Authors: Layout: NullCurrent, Aesthetics: NullCurrent, Johanaz, Meltage, Mereel, Lefix
Type: melee
Spawns: 4
Map Size: 148x148 (playable)
Bases: 16 (16 x 8 mineral + 2 gas)
Watchtowers: 1
Rocks: 4
Tileset: Tyrador + Tarsonis + Port Zion
Number of Doodads: 2134
Rush-distance: ~116 close, ~142 cross

Analyzer:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Images:
+ Show Spoiler [TPW Logo on billboard] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Abandoned Garden] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Blocked Highway] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Trainyard] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Canyon with rail] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Earthquake Signs] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Port] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Port, more] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Rob's Guns] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Failed Invasion] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Ruins] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Failing Generator] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Central XWT] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Rocks and highground-pod] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Dark alley] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Billboard] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Texturing example] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Vanity shot in the middle] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Another Texturing example] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Natural wall-in] +
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler [Old Lighting (1.2)] +

+ Show Spoiler [TPW Logo on billboard] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Abandoned Garden] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Blocked Highway] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Trainyard] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Canyon with rail] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Earthquake Signs] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Port] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Port, more] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Rob's Guns] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Failed Invasion] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Ruins] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Failing Generator] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Central XWT] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Rocks and highground-pod] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Dark alley] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Billboard] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Texturing example] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Forge FE wall-in] +
[image loading]

The Planetary Workshop - TPW - Mapmaking Team
Idianci
Profile Joined May 2011
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 19:19:50
September 14 2011 19:16 GMT
#2
Looks like a mix between Crevasse and Xel'Naga Fortress. I like it though, the destructible debris to the third will make the Xel'Naga Starting location layout alot better. Good aesthetics also. Only thing, watch tower looks like it will be unbalanced for terran siege tank lines since its such a small choke from each direction into it.
When life gives you lemons, get a wife to make some lemonade.
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
September 14 2011 19:17 GMT
#3
Oh my word, this is mindblowingly beautiful.

Love the little PTW logo and really can't wait to see how this plays out.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
September 14 2011 19:23 GMT
#4
--- Nuked ---
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
September 14 2011 19:25 GMT
#5
I approve of this map.

My concern was also about terran siege tank pushes on vertical positions when watching the overview pic of the map. But upon playing on the map you realize there are more than plenty counter-attack and flank paths. Something that always benefits a skilled player. The expansions close to the middle are easier to hold than the overview pic would have it seem. Plenty of space surrounding them.
IveReturned
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Turkey258 Posts
September 14 2011 19:40 GMT
#6
holy.... these doodads ARE GOOD (and well placed) MAN :D
FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
September 14 2011 19:40 GMT
#7
My my my those aesthetics are gorgeous! Such a cool map. I'm glad to hear it will be used in NASL.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10151 Posts
September 14 2011 19:47 GMT
#8
Almost exactly like Terminus SE, but better. I LOVE IT!!! OMFG you are amazing.

100/10
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
September 14 2011 20:00 GMT
#9
Nullcurrent, so good.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
NullCurrent
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden245 Posts
September 14 2011 20:06 GMT
#10


On September 15 2011 05:00 SidianTheBard wrote:
Nullcurrent, so good.

You have to thank the others in the team too, they helped quite a lot with the aesthetics
This made it possible to keep the high level of detail over most of the map.
The Planetary Workshop - TPW - Mapmaking Team
Samro225am
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany982 Posts
September 14 2011 20:19 GMT
#11
very good map, clean but super detailed aesthetics. love it!
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
September 14 2011 21:01 GMT
#12
I said this in the MotM thread already but this map is fucking genius and the logical next step of Terminus.

Also the aesthetics are probably the best I have ever seen in a map!!

And you know your map is incredible when Lalush comes by to tell you he approves of it :O
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
September 14 2011 21:20 GMT
#13
the outside and overall doodads are phenomenal but the actual playable area looks bare from the overview, maybe its just the dark approach but it could be too dark
NullCurrent
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 21:42:09
September 14 2011 21:40 GMT
#14
On September 15 2011 06:20 WniO wrote:
the outside and overall doodads are phenomenal but the actual playable area looks bare from the overview, maybe its just the dark approach but it could be too dark

On the overview, the textures are blurry, so you can't draw a conclusion from that. And I've tried to make the lighting seem like night, yet not too dark. Not completely sure if I succeeded, we have to consult iGrok

Look at the texturing example at the bottom of the OP, I've really tried to make them "pop" so the playable area won't seem to be bare (even though we don't have that much in the way of interfering).

+ Show Spoiler [Another texture shot] +
[image loading]
The Planetary Workshop - TPW - Mapmaking Team
Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
September 14 2011 22:23 GMT
#15
You did a fantastic aesthetic job on this map! It is definitely better than Terminus and looks very balanced from the overview!

EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 01:48:54
September 15 2011 01:30 GMT
#16
I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to seeing NASL games on this. I know it draws its lineage from Terminus, but personally I feel it's a completely different beast. I also think it carves out a nice little zone outside the standard space of 4p rotational thus far. Incidentally, I nevertheless highly approve of the MotM#9 judges' decision to leave it out as a nod to aforementioned 4p abundance; I have a feeling you don't really mind 'cause it will be used in a tournament anyway.

Really nice excellent work from you and the team.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
DaDon420
Profile Joined September 2010
United States16 Posts
September 15 2011 04:09 GMT
#17
Is it possible to get this map loaded on the NA servers would love to try it. Me and my brother love coming to the custom map page and find a few new maps to battle on for the night.
You know, we always called each other goodfellas. Like you said to, uh, somebody, "You're gonna like this guy. He's all right. He's a good fella. He's one of us." You understand? We were goodfellas. Wiseguys.
child7of7christ
Profile Joined August 2011
United States14 Posts
September 15 2011 04:09 GMT
#18
is this available for download on NA??
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.
eTcetRa
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia822 Posts
September 15 2011 04:39 GMT
#19
When I first seen this on MOTM 9 i completely dismissed it as a terminus clone, but seeing it here.

Wow.

Unreal aesthetics job, and the small layout changes make this a stand-alone in comparison to terminus.

Excellent work!

Also who did the aesthetics work? The entire TPW team?
Retired Mapmaker™
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
September 15 2011 05:26 GMT
#20
On September 15 2011 13:39 eTcetRa wrote:

Also who did the aesthetics work? The entire TPW team?


I believe around 4 or 5 TPW members (out of 9) worked on the aesthetics together for this map - excluding me since I took a break
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 318
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 12898
PianO 197
ajuk12(nOOB) 42
LuMiX 1
Dota 2
monkeys_forever912
League of Legends
JimRising 721
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1405
Other Games
summit1g16462
shahzam1097
WinterStarcraft318
C9.Mang0271
ViBE233
Trikslyr36
ROOTCatZ20
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick4549
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH220
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki19
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1301
• Stunt480
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
5h 26m
Epic.LAN
7h 26m
CSO Contender
12h 26m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 5h
Online Event
1d 11h
Esports World Cup
3 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
4 days
Esports World Cup
5 days
Esports World Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
Championship of Russia 2025
Underdog Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.