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Aelyanne
Profile Joined December 2011
4 Posts
March 29 2012 16:07 GMT
#1
Hello there

I am one old WC3 map maker, and i was interested in making SC2 maps.
However, from what i've seen, it seems ridiculously hard to get new players?
In Wc3, you could just host a random new map and have players.

It seems like there are only 30-40 maps that can played with several players, else you just can't get anybody in.

Does your map simply need to be in the top to be able to play it?
If i make one "interesting but not refined" map, will i be able to have some players?

This is making me afraid to get involved in a serious map, so i'm asking your opinion.

Thanks.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2192 Posts
March 29 2012 16:13 GMT
#2
Welcome to Battle.net 2.0
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
March 29 2012 16:21 GMT
#3
Welcome to Battle.net 0.2
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Romania1331 Posts
March 29 2012 16:34 GMT
#4
if ur map is good post it here and players will try it out , if is good enough it will get on top
i5@ 4,3ghz - 1,25 v
Rkynick
Profile Joined December 2011
85 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 16:37:13
March 29 2012 16:36 GMT
#5
The last time I got my custom map played was several months ago, after sitting in the custom games chatroom for 3 hours trying to pull some players in.

If that's any indication.
guonoo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden16 Posts
March 29 2012 16:41 GMT
#6
You can post about your maps here on tl and if they are good many here will sure play and recommend them.
If you put an effort in this I think your maps can be popular.
Btw I would like to test your maps if you do any cause I like to test your maps.
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
March 29 2012 16:53 GMT
#7
If your map isnt popular already it will never be played. Bnet 2.0.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
March 29 2012 16:58 GMT
#8
If you make a map I would love to try it with friends and give you feed backs ( i'm not a pro players/ mapmaker but feedbacks are always good ^^ )
rly ?
Phried
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada147 Posts
March 29 2012 17:06 GMT
#9
The map system for Bnet kind of sucks. Apparently it's getting a makeover in the next patch though so that might fix some of the issues.
Akinokaze
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia326 Posts
March 29 2012 17:30 GMT
#10
Apart from UMS, the only custom melee maps that ever get exposure on Bnet are the ones used in big tournaments (GSL, MLg, etc) =/ Looking forward to patch 1.5 and a system that actually makes reasonable sense.
In the Emperor we trust
black3200
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada74 Posts
March 29 2012 18:39 GMT
#11
This new B net system makes it rough for people to get their maps out there... your best bet is to post it here and hopefully get that popularity up!! Keep up the good work !! i loved wc3 customs!
Give them nothing,But take from them..... everything!
chuky500
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
France472 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 20:18:17
March 29 2012 20:17 GMT
#12
In the first months whenever there was a reboot of the server you could farm your map and get it in the first page of the custom games. But nobody played it anyways or very rarely.

A solution is to idle in the battle.net chat channel 'looking for custom games" and ask, but it's rare someone will want to play your map.

One last solution is to organize a small tournament but it has a lot of chances to fail. I tried to run 5 and the last 2 didn't have enough players. Maybe if you're from America you'll have more chance since most people on teamliquid are North American.

Maybe if you make your map with 6 minerals and 1 rich gas you can get on the fad and have your maps played by the mapping aristocracy.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
March 29 2012 20:23 GMT
#13
There's a couple ways of getting to the top of popularity, neither of them very easy. Realistically, chances of breaking through the popularity barrier is next to nil for even AMAZING maps, which is sad. If your map is a melee map, stop now. Submit it to some map contests and forget it exists on bnet.

1) Make a very simple but fun map that anyone of any skill level can enjoy, a la Pobes vs Zeelot (or Monobattles, ho ho). Get it highlighted somewhere and hope the ball starts rolling.

2) Make an amazing map. Try to get it everywhere you can. Don't shoot yourself when the populace opts to stick to the simpler maps.

The super secret option is to give up all hope and wait for HotS to try to fix it.
Who dat ninja?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
March 29 2012 21:19 GMT
#14
Blizzard.... you really depress me sometimes.
The advices given above are your best shot.... I'm so sorry
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
chuky500
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
France472 Posts
March 29 2012 21:23 GMT
#15
Actually Blizzard said they won't wait until hots and they'll change a bit the system in the next patch 1.5.0. You'll be able to look at a list of maps with people currently waiting in the lobby.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 29 2012 21:41 GMT
#16
Unless you make a really baller map and post it on the forums, you're never going to be able to get a dozen players on your map.

It is the cruel and unfortunate truth of Battle.net 0.2.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
March 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#17
On March 30 2012 06:23 chuky500 wrote:
Actually Blizzard said they won't wait until hots and they'll change a bit the system in the next patch 1.5.0. You'll be able to look at a list of maps with people currently waiting in the lobby.


Wow what? That sounds like.... magic :O
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
turtles
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 01:58:41
March 30 2012 01:57 GMT
#18
On March 30 2012 05:17 chuky500 wrote:
A solution is to idle in the battle.net chat channel 'looking for custom games" and ask, but it's rare someone will want to play your map.


I feel like this resource has been mined out. Whenever I am on there seems to only be 15-30 people. I have tried sitting around asking if people want to play your map. I can only stand to do it for a few minutes every now and then. It makes me feel like a panhandler on the street asking for food scraps. I got one or 2 games going but if they join the lobby and realise you are the creator they will often just leave the lobby instantly and PM you with a simillar conversation that I've had a few times before:

Bnet stranger: "I'm not playing your gay sucky map! It's gay and it sucks and it is the worst map I have ever seen"
Me: "Wait, so you've played it then? what issue did you have?"
Bnet stranger: "It's (*&^&^%&^% $%&^%$ $%@$#" (<- battlenet swear filter)
Me: "You haven't played it before. I'm guessing you've never even heard of it, have you?"
Bnet stranger: "I don't need to know what it is to know that it's a piece of *&^%&^$^%#$%@$%^#$^^*&"
Me ".... *sigh*"

Random people on the internet are scared to even be in the lobby of a custom game that isn't Nexus wars.

I think the only way to get games going is when you have a large list of friends or are an active part of a clan so that you can bug them to try out your newest versions.

Actually Blizzard said they won't wait until hots and they'll change a bit the system in the next patch 1.5.0. You'll be able to look at a list of maps with people currently waiting in the lobby.


From what I recall they said that people using "Fun-Or-Not" will be placed into games which have a lobby which has been open for a long time awaiting players. I thought I remember them saying specifically that there will NOT be a list of open lobbies. I don't know how many people use Fun-Or-Not now days anyway.

Even if they do show a list like that it would have to be the default view when people click on the arcade button. If you have to go through a menu to find the list of open lobbies then 80% of people will not know it exists and most of the rest will ignore it.

Can you find a link for that?
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
March 30 2012 02:47 GMT
#19
On March 30 2012 10:57 turtles wrote:
Can you find a link for that?


http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/4592755/Developer_Update_with_Game_Director_Dustin_Browder_-3_12_2012
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
RumbleBadger
Profile Joined July 2011
322 Posts
March 30 2012 04:37 GMT
#20
Would somebody be willing to organize a little play sesh between map makers on like a Saturday or something (a day where time-zone conflicts will be at a minimum)? I would like to say I would, but I don't have the time to even play sc2, let alone organize something like this. It would just be a weekly time where we could all get together and play new maps from this week (preferably) or maybe test some of the motm top 5 qualifiers.

It wouldn't be much to do, just raise awareness for it, but I feel like if we try to keep it up, we could get a decent player base of mappers of all levels playing maps. If nothing else, it would be fun, and not stressful like ladder is.

Heck, I might even wip out my 2 months of rust build up gold level play and play some games with other... errr... less-skilled players. Might be fun?

And it would do exactly what we want, which is get people playing on maps.
Games before dames.
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