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Deleted User 97295
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Last Edited: 2012-06-21 17:04:10
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MNdakota
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June 21 2012 17:15 GMT
#282
On June 21 2012 20:17 Kabel wrote:
Any thoughts from the american players?


How does the economy feel?


What can be improved etc?


Everything feels fine. Thumbs up!
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
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June 21 2012 17:37 GMT
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Kabel
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Last Edited: 2012-06-21 18:02:23
June 21 2012 17:40 GMT
#284
On June 22 2012 02:15 MNdakota wrote:
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On June 21 2012 20:17 Kabel wrote:
Any thoughts from the american players?


How does the economy feel?


What can be improved etc?


Everything feels fine. Thumbs up!


Well, I actually dont like FRB. I played lots of games the past 2 days and the start up is soooooo slow.

Right now on EU I am experimenting with the BW economic system. The workers generate more income in the start, but its faster to reach the maximum saturation on a base. But the income per base is still lower than in SC2. Which means that more bases are needed for a strong economy.

Full saturation requires 16 workers. (on minerals)
Each worker takes 5 seconds longer to build. (so it still takes a while to fully saturate a base)
Each worker carries 8 minerals but take longer time to mine. The more workers on a base, the less efficent they become.
This means that 8 workers in base A and 8 workers in base B are stronger than 16 workers in base C.
The start up economy is stronger = more options in the first 6 minutes of the game.
Still a fully saturated base in Starbow generates less income than a fully saturated base in SC2.


Uploaded the BW change on Eu for 1 hour ago. Need to play more games to see if this is better or not.

We are currently 10 people in the channel, which is nice
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Deleted User 97295
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Last Edited: 2012-06-21 17:50:23
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MNdakota
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United States512 Posts
June 21 2012 17:53 GMT
#286
This is getting pretty stupid to be honest. Why do you keep changing things in the course of about two days?

What was wrong with FRB and what the hell is this "Brood War system"?

I'm actually getting really annoying because I found out timings and then you completely just change the system over. Just because one person doesn't like something, I don't see why you should change the whole entire thing. We struck gold with FRB but players just bitch about how the games are so slow because they don't know how to make workers and expand and all that other stuff. Plus they never attack or do anything. I've never had someone actually ATTACK me in Starbow so far. I'm the one always having to attack.

I really don't want to see the switch from FRB. It works much better and makes the game more micro focused and it's more enjoyable. But nope. Not today.
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
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MNdakota
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June 21 2012 18:18 GMT
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On June 22 2012 03:17 Laertes wrote:
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On June 22 2012 02:53 MNdakota wrote:
This is getting pretty stupid to be honest. Why do you keep changing things in the course of about two days?

What was wrong with FRB and what the hell is this "Brood War system"?

I'm actually getting really annoying because I found out timings and then you completely just change the system over. Just because one person doesn't like something, I don't see why you should change the whole entire thing. We struck gold with FRB but players just bitch about how the games are so slow because they don't know how to make workers and expand and all that other stuff. Plus they never attack or do anything. I've never had someone actually ATTACK me in Starbow so far. I'm the one always having to attack.

I really don't want to see the switch from FRB. It works much better and makes the game more micro focused and it's more enjoyable. But nope. Not today.


I'll be online momentarily Dakota, just lemme get these changes up, I can vouch for them that they are worth the change :D.


Ok, well. I'm in a League of Legends game with my relatives. Wait up a bit!
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MNdakota
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United States512 Posts
June 21 2012 18:23 GMT
#291
On June 22 2012 03:20 Laertes wrote:
Fair enough, I'll try it out with that guy, his name is "SimplyDan", and I want him to face you, he's good, you're good, everyone's good! And I get to WATCH.

Oh 2 workers per mineral patch is optimal, Gossen wanted me to tell you.


Lol yeah. I already knew that. Two full rows on mineral patches is optimal.
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MNdakota
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United States512 Posts
June 21 2012 18:36 GMT
#292
No one is in the Starbow channel?
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
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June 21 2012 18:55 GMT
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TaShadan
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Germany1969 Posts
June 21 2012 19:05 GMT
#295
On June 22 2012 03:55 Laertes wrote:
God IronManSC has been so ridiculous to me lately. I invited him to come to Starbow, and maybe I overdid a little tiny bit, but he would never come, he was so disinterested and his message always came across as, "fuck off starbow isn't real starcraft", and no matter how diplomatic I would be, he always saw me as some little twat trying to get him into some UMS that probably sucked.

Yesterday, I found out he blocked me, and its really pissing me off, like seriously, it annoys me greatly that he would block me probably because I wasn't "getting the message". Why do people do that? IronMan seems to not find the link in the karma. I follow him, and it seems he has his own problems getting his maps out there, so when I went to ask him if he would bestow the honour of allowing me to upload Khaydaria as a starbow map, he turned out to have blocked me. Well whatever IronMan, I'll use your maps, but obviously you don't respect me enough to say to my face that Starbow sucks, and that its a piece of crap in your eyes; I don't wanna say anything I regret, but just putting this out there, that some people are just too good to try something as menial as Starbow...


sc2 isnt real sc either
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MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
June 21 2012 19:07 GMT
#296
On June 22 2012 04:05 TaShadan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 03:55 Laertes wrote:
God IronManSC has been so ridiculous to me lately. I invited him to come to Starbow, and maybe I overdid a little tiny bit, but he would never come, he was so disinterested and his message always came across as, "fuck off starbow isn't real starcraft", and no matter how diplomatic I would be, he always saw me as some little twat trying to get him into some UMS that probably sucked.

Yesterday, I found out he blocked me, and its really pissing me off, like seriously, it annoys me greatly that he would block me probably because I wasn't "getting the message". Why do people do that? IronMan seems to not find the link in the karma. I follow him, and it seems he has his own problems getting his maps out there, so when I went to ask him if he would bestow the honour of allowing me to upload Khaydaria as a starbow map, he turned out to have blocked me. Well whatever IronMan, I'll use your maps, but obviously you don't respect me enough to say to my face that Starbow sucks, and that its a piece of crap in your eyes; I don't wanna say anything I regret, but just putting this out there, that some people are just too good to try something as menial as Starbow...


sc2 isnt real sc either


I mainly play Starbow for the area control units. StarCraft 2 simply just doesn't have that.
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
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June 21 2012 20:06 GMT
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United States512 Posts
June 21 2012 20:22 GMT
#298
On June 22 2012 05:06 Laertes wrote:
Dakota, I need you, I want someone who will give me a challenge, and can vouch for the game when I advertize :\. Oh btw, Gossen put in mules! Its really nice on the terran end!


Haha. Now you agree with me about the MULEs.

I will get on after I get some more IP on League of Legends and then I'll head over to my cousin's house. Then we can play.

So about two hours?
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