Wow, excellent sir!

I've played a dozen times with it, and I'm quite impressed by the extent of the work you've done. Excellent idea to incorporate Green Tea AI, it tremendously helps

Regarding the details (mainly Z) :
- The AI asks me to check the first expansion with overlords, but I usually do it with zerglings =/ And he keeps on asking!
- Someone said that if you put off drones from gas, it shouldn't say that you're doing something wrong (just check if "amount of gas == 2500")
- I'm not quite sure about the "put an overlord in the middle", it really depends on the situation. (especially when I defended a 1-base muta allin from the AI)
- On the other hand, I wouldn't mind having some messages mid-game like "put a zergling/overlord on each possible expo" or even better : "you decided to put an overlord on this expansion, and you're on lair tech => make it poop creep!"
- Very situational : The extractor trick shouldn't count as "supply blocked"
- The AI is quite fast at qualifying the build as All-in. If you're defending a push (and you are, the AI is very aggressive) this is not really appropriate
- The voice should be made a bit louder, I hardly hear it
- Written messages should be shorter, especially in the "I want to be spammed" mode. I hardly find the time to read them, I can barely throw a glance, so I believe it would be better to make them more visible (i.e : red) and much shorter. Instead of "You haven't scouted your ennemy fifth base for 2.18 minutes. Bla bla bla [2 lines of text]", there could be something like ""Scout expansions (you're 2.18 min late)"

But all in all, this is a tremendous work, thanks a lot for the time & effort you put in! I hope I'll use the full extent of your work!

Dajibjaw

Canada83 Posts

August 08 2011 00:55 GMT

#83

Very nice. Been looking for something like this for a while!

Handmade.Mercury

1 Post

August 08 2011 00:57 GMT

#84

Hey! Just found this map today, and I must say, it is really fantastic.

However, a friend and I ran across a problem today. When we play against the AI, it works well, and we can compare graphs at the end. But when we try to play against each other, as soon as one of us loses the game, both of our Starcraft II clients crash. I sent the report to Blizzard, but I forgot to copy the error message. Next time it happens, I'll edit this post or whatever with the relevant info.

_Major

United States107 Posts

August 08 2011 01:23 GMT

#85

Very impressive map! It's great to see more trainers hitting the scene.

Great Job, Nyast.

Noam

Israel2209 Posts

August 09 2011 08:23 GMT

#86

A friend just showed this to me. This is completely amazing.

Primal666

Slovenia418 Posts

August 09 2011 11:58 GMT

#87

awsome mod but i have few problems:

Zvp if you go for 14 gas 14 pool and make 4 lings to fend off probe, i know he's not gotta block expo but i'm practicing for ladder

it says ''you are going allin'', also when my zergling scouted a friggen stargate the tip said ''maybuh he's going defensive 4gate''
also zvt, when you are saving money for mutas, it says your gas is too high.

FrooK

Sweden28 Posts

August 09 2011 14:04 GMT

#88

Got really pissed off really fast, but then I just tried harder and harder to "beat your AI" and I noticed my drone production went trough the roof, and I was still able to defend myself well enough to keep me in the game! Droning is normally my biggest problem, I like building lings more than drones

The "you lost Xs not making a drone" thing is spammed way to much imo, maybe it's just me being forever bronze tho. Will definitely keep using this for a while to get my macro on!

Jazzyz

Finland1 Post

August 09 2011 21:17 GMT

#89

It's awesome man! You made me to actually register to this site and comment on your hard work.

I tried a few games vs. AI and that made me realize how much I really suck - however I think if you play vs. computer AI, it is still way too hard if you just want to practice your macro/mechanics and other basic things which are the biggest things I personally want to practice as a low-level player.

I tried medium, easy and even very easy with 50% handicap but I still got slaughtered. Maybe it's just me but when you practice forever alone as forever bronze the AI should be radically easier.

Anyway, really really good job man!

Iranon

United States983 Posts

August 10 2011 20:01 GMT

#90

You might want to turn down the AI a bit... This sounded like such an awesome tool for my and the rest of the below-diamond part of TL, but like the above poster, the very easy AI just crushes me even if I'm playing relatively well (which for me is platinum-level). So much so that I don't really get anything out of the experience. I *know* I'm terrible at macro, and right now that's all playing this tells me.

I need to practice macro, I've already got plenty of practice dying at the 9 minute mark. This is probably very useful for diamond/masters players, but it's back to YABOT for me.

ToastyToast

Russian Federation14 Posts

August 10 2011 20:38 GMT

#91

Hmm , i was gold in season 2 and i have no trouble with easy ai

Also i want to see Green Tea AI BO customization please.Because i want to try my build against specific builds.

Scheme

United Kingdom210 Posts

August 10 2011 21:30 GMT

#92

This is so cool...thanks for this awesome map...i will use it everyday!!
Maybe you should blog about the development of the map, some people that can, could help as well.

GL on it!

Gladiator6

Sweden7024 Posts

August 10 2011 21:47 GMT

#93

Wow it really increases your apm when playing

mikiao

United States161 Posts

August 10 2011 21:55 GMT

#94

My only concern after two games...can you have the game pause when I'm trying to read the Tips that pop on the right side of the screen?

Oh...and I hope there will be different voices to choose from if this takes off. Like a sexy voice...-rawr-

Chernobyl

Brazil143 Posts

August 11 2011 00:05 GMT

#95

That map must be a base for the chalenges of the hearth of the swarm.
This IS absolutely incredible.

LrdBaine

United States1 Post

August 12 2011 00:07 GMT

#96

You should target 3*M+2*G where M is the number of mineral patches, and G the number of gas patches (usually 8/2, for a total of around 30 workers per base).

Isn't it 3 per gas (not 2), making it an even 30 workers per base?

Dragom

194 Posts

August 12 2011 00:23 GMT

#97

Btw, can u pls add an restart map option? It's really annoying to have to recreate the map every game. Are u assuming that everyone only practices 1 game a day?

Btw, how do you do AI mode? Are you supposed to create a game and add an AI as one of the players or is it an option on the game screen? (does the AI have anything to do with the difficulty lvl, or is the difficulty lvl just for the notifications about your macro and micro?)