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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
March 09 2011 12:38 GMT
#41
On March 09 2011 17:09 woozie wrote:
I just published it on EU under the name "No Deathballs - Xel Naga - By Cryosin 'n Alongschlong".

... but I think Alongschlong got shafted, because when I checked the map after upload, "Alongschlong" wasn't part of the name anymore Too long map name I guess.

I can't find the map on EU :'(
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
March 09 2011 13:30 GMT
#42
My question is why didnt Blizzard do this in the 1st place .

Now we have to spam this on the Blizzard Forums so it gets implemented. I seriously think Zergs problem is the fact that everything clumps. Zerg just dies to splash so badly. Before in BW with enough stuff they could over-run tanks, but now they can;t.
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woozie
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden53 Posts
March 09 2011 13:59 GMT
#43
On March 09 2011 21:38 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 17:09 woozie wrote:
I just published it on EU under the name "No Deathballs - Xel Naga - By Cryosin 'n Alongschlong".

... but I think Alongschlong got shafted, because when I checked the map after upload, "Alongschlong" wasn't part of the name anymore Too long map name I guess.

I can't find the map on EU :'(

Try searching "Cryosin" and you should find it.
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
March 09 2011 13:59 GMT
#44
im trying to imagine some hellions vs single file (bw style) zerglings.....aaaahh my goose is getting cooked
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
theSAiNT
Profile Joined July 2009
United States726 Posts
March 09 2011 14:37 GMT
#45
From the screenshots, things certainly look a lot more BW-esque. The deathball syndrome is definitely bad for the spectator aspect of SC2, notwithstanding balance issues. I hope Blizzard gets a look at this and at least considers these changes. I have a feeling that they will probably be too drastic for their liking. More's the pity.
nforce
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria116 Posts
March 09 2011 14:41 GMT
#46
On March 09 2011 22:59 woozie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 21:38 Jetaap wrote:
On March 09 2011 17:09 woozie wrote:
I just published it on EU under the name "No Deathballs - Xel Naga - By Cryosin 'n Alongschlong".

... but I think Alongschlong got shafted, because when I checked the map after upload, "Alongschlong" wasn't part of the name anymore Too long map name I guess.

I can't find the map on EU :'(

Try searching "Cryosin" and you should find it.

Nope. Doesn't show.
woozie
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden53 Posts
March 09 2011 15:19 GMT
#47
On March 09 2011 23:41 nforce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 22:59 woozie wrote:
On March 09 2011 21:38 Jetaap wrote:
On March 09 2011 17:09 woozie wrote:
I just published it on EU under the name "No Deathballs - Xel Naga - By Cryosin 'n Alongschlong".

... but I think Alongschlong got shafted, because when I checked the map after upload, "Alongschlong" wasn't part of the name anymore Too long map name I guess.

I can't find the map on EU :'(

Try searching "Cryosin" and you should find it.

Nope. Doesn't show.

Weird. I'm sure that I can find it just fine ... :/

anyway, if you're online right now and wanna try it, you could try adding woozie.663 and I'll play with you ^^
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 15:35:22
March 09 2011 15:35 GMT
#48
Can't find the map on EU - are you sure you uploaded it public and not private?
TPW Member | My Maps @ TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171486 | Search 'dezi' at EU
Mowr
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 16:00:06
March 09 2011 15:58 GMT
#49
Awesome idea, I'll try it out when possible.
Kill one man and they'll call you a murderer. Kill an army of men and they'll call you a general. But kill all men and they'll call you a god.
woozie
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden53 Posts
March 09 2011 16:13 GMT
#50
On March 10 2011 00:35 dezi wrote:
Can't find the map on EU - are you sure you uploaded it public and not private?

I did actually upload it as private -_-

It's fixed now though!
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 16:50:23
March 09 2011 16:13 GMT
#51
Map is now working on EU , thanks Woozie!! I played a game against him, the idea is really nice but it needs to be improved/refined.
I think the colision size of zergling is a bit too big, it's really hard to manage a big ling army correctly. On the other hand I think you should change the roach and increase it's size ,I don't really see a reason for being able to stack roaches more than zerglings :p ,.
Stalkers are a bit too spread out as well i think , but keep it going the idea is really nice !
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
March 09 2011 17:11 GMT
#52
I started up a writeup about deathballs in general, but it got long enough i decided to post it in blogs instead. I definitely think deathballs are a serious flaw in the game design of SC2, and would definitely like to see their effectiveness reduced.
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 09 2011 18:47 GMT
#53
This is awesome, I just sadly don't see Blizzard ever changing this, because they are proud of their new and advanced "fluid" like mechanics, even if it is detremental to play
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
March 09 2011 19:08 GMT
#54
Oh wow this looks so clean! I wish sc2 was like this, I hate the ball of units
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 20:10:53
March 09 2011 19:56 GMT
#55
For those who might be interested a replay of my game vs Woozie on this map, I think none of us was too serious about this game ( terrible macro by me ^^) , but it was really fun , and i think it's worth watching.I think it gives you an idea of the mod

Here it is:
zvt no deathball
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
March 09 2011 20:27 GMT
#56
thats an interesting concept, we gotta make this one really popular so blizz implement it in HotS
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 20:58:12
March 09 2011 20:56 GMT
#57
I think it's pretty obvious blizzard won't slap this band-aid fix on the game a year into it's life. But I also wonder if they will implement an artificial restriction to encourage more interesting styles of gameplay.

+In brood war, units were buggier and stupider as the army size increased.
+In war3 there was upkeep to encourage engagement in earlier stages.

But again, it really is too early to declare that the game won't evolve from 1A syndrome by itself.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
March 09 2011 21:26 GMT
#58
Love the idea and the implementation so far, with a bit of refinement and testing this could become a viable implementation for Blizzard. Looking forward to more playing and discussion in the thread, wish there was a way to get this a little more attention
Cryosin
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States182 Posts
March 10 2011 00:59 GMT
#59
Thank you for all the responses. Please keep sending me replays, i am looking at all of them. I am currently working on a new version that will be up sometime next week.

Please keep your suggestions coming.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
March 10 2011 03:36 GMT
#60
Is the channel still SC Pro? I want to try this out but there's no one in the channel :[
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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