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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 04 2009 19:43 GMT
#21
I remember watching this game live, I had to watch it again, so good.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 04 2009 20:03 GMT
#22
I remember watching this game from behind Nada's back, so good.
Peace~
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 04 2009 20:53 GMT
#23
Always on the losers side fanatacist. Good job.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 04 2009 20:56 GMT
#24
Um, because you know, fuck Effort? Nada > Effort 100% of the way.
Peace~
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 04 2009 21:18 GMT
#25
Yeah, except not. lol!

die t1 fan.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 04 2009 21:18 GMT
#26
Wait, who won SPL this season?

What was that you say? SKT T1?

Oh what a coincidence!


Translation: Your team sucks.
Peace~
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 04 2009 21:22 GMT
#27
lol t1 fans are like lizards. They hide under rocks and suddenly when it's warm and good to be a lizard they come out.

Anyway, enjoy stealing players from other teams.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 04 2009 21:25 GMT
#28
CJ fans are like Apple products. They think they are big and bad because they represent something that has a few good features and was competent at some point in the past (although in a very minor way), but now just sucks dick in general. Even though there are many of these fans, the sum of their IQs cannot be greater than Savior's loss streak. I don't know which aspect of that comparison is more difficult to bear.

Anyway, enjoy riding Effort through every league until he burns out like Flash.
Peace~
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 04 2009 21:29 GMT
#29
How about you watch msl, kwanro and iris got throught. Bisu and Fantasy? lol

Gom? Iris

Anyway im leaving to uni right now, that should be enough time so you read something about the proscene and don't look ignorant.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 04 2009 21:34 GMT
#30
Lol the current maps are anti-Protoss and thus anti-Bisu, Fantasy got eliminated by Bisu and Jaedong which is not an upset tragedy or a claim to fame for any of your newbie CJ players. Your massively untalented Kwanro squeezed into the finals to make one of the most depressing finals ever. Mentioning his name in your post is a detriment to your argument, because it reminds everyone that that idiot is on your team and has ruined the MSL finals.

Iris is decent but old as fuck and this was his last flash in the pan attempt at a title, until he got raped by a newbie Kwanro, who in turn got raped by Calm, who is from STX, and everyone knows STX sucks dick.

Gom didn't even have SKT T1, how else would you explain that Iris got to the finals? Where he lost to a teenage overworked Flash. Congrats. Double fail.
Peace~
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 05 2009 02:06 GMT
#31
[1] So let me get this straight. The maps are anti protoss, but fantasy the best terran on T1 (A team with a big history on terrans) loses to Bisu? And Bisu lost to IriS? LOL?

Strike one.

[2] STX is good, that phrase alone should show how much you know about pro teams.

Strike two.

[3] Gom didn't have T1 because T1refused to play it, not CJ's fault.

Also Flash didn't have to play playoffs since KT didn't qualify, and flash was out of the other leagues.

But IriS was still playing the playoffs and the MSL while preparing GOM. But flash is overworked?.

Strike three....

...and you are OUT!
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 05 2009 02:31 GMT
#32
[1] The maps are generally anti-Protoss in both PvT and PvZ, so the fact that Bisu was the only Protoss to come even close to a finals position is evidence that even the best Protoss player in the world was in a worse position to qualify than fucking KWANRO. The fact that Bisu beat Fantasy is proof of nothing except Bisu's competence, because of the fact that they play on the same team and Bisu undoubtedly helps Fantasy with his TvP constantly as they are the number 1 players of either race on T1, and in the world.

g

[2]STX has not won jack shit, ever, and it got facesmashed in SPL. STX's best player is Calm. Do you understand what I'm saying dawg? STX is nothing.

g

[3]Never said it was CJ's fault, I'm saying it's not CJ > SKT. Flash has a history of being overworked, and has produced results in the past, whereas Iris has gotten to his first finals in Gom, the underdog league of Korea, when many of the best players in the world were absent, and failed to produce results for the umpteenth time in his seemingly unending and stubborn career.

no re~~
Peace~
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 05 2009 02:39 GMT
#33
so basically you copied my format but have not answered correctly my points? good work.

[1] Bisu's competence, rofl these bisu fanboys are even more annoying than the jaedong fanboys.

Bisu lost to iris, in a bo5, but he wins vs fantasy? so one player that "is decent but old as fuck and this was his last flash in the pan attempt at a title" wins vs "the most competent protoss". But then MASTER TERRAN FROM TERRAN TEAM loses vs Bisu.

Im repteating my point with capslocks and wittty phrases cause you didn't get the idea. If the maps are so anti PvT then fantasy should have won ez pz.

[2] STX is getting a strong lineup only recently. Calm has a title. Since you say the players and teams who win are the good ones, then Calm who got a gold should be good? right?

You are just throwing dirt at yourself with every phrase you write lol.

[3] So IriS isn't overworked when he was in almost every cj line up, in MSL and in GOM. But Flash who only had to practice for GOM is? Im not taking about 10 months ago, im taking about 1 month ago.

Next time take at least 5 minutes to post something and read before hitting the post button.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 05 2009 02:51 GMT
#34
[1] Bisu made a mistake. Iris played a very solid game of SC. I will not deny that. Overall, however, Iris has been competent but not a top 5 player in years, whereas Bisu is almost undeniably the #2 or #3 player in the world right now.

I'll reiterate MY point now, maybe the language barrier is towering over your head so you cannot see the light of my reasoning, but IN-TEAM MATCHES are hard to predict. Iris vs. Savior? Who the fuck expected it to be so close? The first fantasy vs. Bisu Bo5? Right. The list is endless, I will not humiliate you further by expounding on this fact. Also, repteating is a humorous but fake word.

[2] Calm got a gold by beating Kwanro in a time where Zergs are basically given free passes to the finals. Doesn't mean that much, except that Kwanro sucks and Calm sucks less.

To be fair, Calm is pretty good, but he's the only STX player worth mentioning right now. Name one other player that has gotten anywhere recently or has done something worthwhile in terms of leagues. Exactly.

[3] Last month it is probable that Iris had more work overall than Flash. Last month is also when Flash destroyed Iris, so that was a self-fulfilling prophecy then, right? Last month is when Iris came closest to grabbing his first gold medal, whereas Flash, someone much younger, less experienced, and newer to the scene did this long ago. I don't understand what the point of your argument is, since it does not in any way bolster Iris's case as a player, or CJ's as a team, because Iris lost - overworked or not.

Next time please choose a better team and read an English book to assist you in comprehending the difficult concepts I am conveying in these posts.
Peace~
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 03:08:57
September 05 2009 03:03 GMT
#35
You leveled up to a grammar nazi, good job. The next step is refuting my logic by linking wikipedia, you are on your way.

You forgot the little fact that Calm beat Jaedong in a bo5. Oh maybe you didn't forgot, but skipped that cause it didn't help your argument.

I see no one bitching that July got his last OSL with a ez pz way throught, playing zero ZvT (his weakest mu). But god forbid kwanro wins something or does the same. Kwanro played very good, beating some good players. You said yourself that good players and teams win stuff. Kwanro did, now shut up.

You made me bring the iris thing to the conversation by saying CJ was nothing but EffOrt, i proved you wrong by citating Kwanro and IriS (i could also name a few others, but i guess with those two who got medals should be enough)
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 05 2009 03:13 GMT
#36
I find that a person's control of the language which he employs to impart his opinion on people in a debate is essential to determining their level of intelligence. You can draw your own conclusions from that. http://www.wikipedia.com/linguisticslawl.php

Calm did beat Jaedong in a Bo5. This is commendable. Calm is a smart player at times. "To be fair, Calm is pretty good, but he's the only STX player worth mentioning right now." Etc.

There was no need to bring it up, although I was prepared to should the STX argument spill over to claiming that JulyZerg is a competent player in this day and age. Fortunately we did not have to go there.

CJ has nothing long-term without Iris. Although you may think it is premature to say so, I am of the mentality that Iris had his last chance at anything worth anything, and he lost it. Kwanro is still a joke, I don't think you watch his games vs Calm if you are still trying to convince me he is a player worth citing as a star on any team.
Peace~
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 05 2009 03:20 GMT
#37
Well if you prefer we can argue in spanish, or in italian? Want me to list my credentials on the subject?


About your points.

Funny:

On September 05 2009 11:31 fanatacist wrote:
[2]STX has not won jack shit, ever, and it got facesmashed in SPL. STX's best player is Calm. Do you understand what I'm saying dawg? STX is nothing.


implies something different from what you say right now.

Bullshit chain:

Bisu loses to jaedong, "nothing to be ashamed" is what you claim.
Calm wins vs jaedong (in his strongest match up. "yeah he's not THAT bad".

Rofl, gimme a break.

Ok, Iris and kwanro? how about skyhigh? Movie?

What is in the T1 workshops left? Oh right, it doesn't matter, when they run out of player they will go and buy someone from another team with the free agent bullshit. And we return to post 21.

I'm going out now, i won't read until tomorrow. So im giving you 12+ hours so you think your response with time, because so far you have been sucking.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 15:40:25
September 05 2009 03:32 GMT
#38
My Spanish is limited and I do not pretend to have adequate control to impart the message I intend to, nor will my comprehension be sufficient to translate your arguments.

Calm is STX's best player. Calm, although having won an MSL gold, and having beaten Effort and Jaedong in series recently, is still not a player I would put in the same league as Effort, Jaedong, Bisu, Flash, Fantasy, etc. in terms of consistent skill.

Bisu loses to Jaedong, nothing to be ashamed of. Calm wins vs. Jaedong, it's a good thing to put on your resume, as well as the MSL gold, but if they are your sole achievements then they stand out as flukes, as once-in-a-hundred occurrences.

Okay, SkyHigh is good. Movie is not.

T1 has no adequate rookies at this time. CJ did change the old guard out for the new in a good way, producing Effort and SkyHigh. Do not blame the team for having money from their successes and thus having the ability to purchase rookies if they need to. If T1 had purchased Jaedong, I would be as "what the fuck, bs" as you. But they clearly aren't the Madrid of SC just yet.

I sense hostility in your tone and although we mutually believe that we are in the right and the other person is simply wrong right now, I don't want to hurt any feelings or step on any toes in terms of long term relations. Enjoy your night.
Peace~
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 08:10:52
September 05 2009 08:10 GMT
#39
eSTRO IS BETTER THAN BOTH CJ AND SKT

case closed
ModeratorGood content always wins.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 05 2009 08:30 GMT
#40
lol, T1 is a team born in the roots of buying other players from the times of orion. It seems at least you have given me points and i respect that, most bisu fans would not.

Don't get super defensive, im justing throwing some friendly jabs at you. I <3 you fana :3

Cj fighting lol :D
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