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The Power Rank is obviously just a fun, interesting and highly subjective view of one person as to who has been doing well over the last month or so. If you want a more scientific way of ranking players look at the ELO or KeSPA rankings. In fact I want to second Avidkeystamper's suggestion of having a rotation of people writting the PR, each giving a unique view on who's hot and who's not, preferably with a small introduction stating their criteria for the month. That would be awesome.
All that being said a couple of notes from my perspective:
ZerO/JD - This one strikes me as a bit of a troll. It's sure to get plenty of reaction from the fanboys and seems a bit odd since the other rankings aren't just 100% based on last months performance, player reputation surely plays some part in ranking and nobody other than Bisu is close to Jaedong's reputation at the moment. On the other hand I've really enjoyed ZerO's play over the last month and Jaedong has been very mediocre. Mad props for making such a ballsy move anyway.
Fantasy - Don't like him at all but he has been playing well. Still not sure that he should be ranked this high tough, personally I think Leta played better overall, but that's highly subjective. Could be just that I'm a big Leta fanboy and as I said I don't like Fantasy at all. I also don't think that he played all that great against Jaedong in the ProLeague, that game to me was more Jaedong doing a crazy all-in strategy and failling hard rather than anything that Fantasy did. Also, ZerO's record for the last month is more impressive than Fantasy's so going by that alone ZerO should really be ranked above Fantasy also. In fact, other than beating Jaedong (whom I argue really beat himself) Fantasy has done nothing of note in the last month at all. Who did he beat? Sea (once promising, now slumping pretty hard), FroZean (are you kidding me, who doesn't beat this guy), ZergBong (see pervious comment), AnyTime (a decent player but not really one of the best at the moment), Horang2/Movie (both good players but still not terribly impressive). Meanwhile he lost to Calm (who is very good, this is fair enough) and HoGiL (what?). This record is really only barely better than Jaedong's less than shinning performance last moth. Meanwhile ZerO's losses (as you pointed out) were against Leta and Bisu (both top tier players, so hardly a shame) and his wins are against far more impressive opponents (Kal x3, YArnC, Luxury, Calm) for the most part. If you are going to be all about past month performance to the point of ranking ZerO above Jaedong then he should also really be above Fantasy is all I'm saying. Did I mention that I really don't like Fantasy? 
TheZerg - This one seems very T1 centric and I think anybody who's not a T1 fan would probably disagree about this placement. It's fine, like I said earlier, it's fun seeing different people's perspective on the Power Rank, I just wouldn't place him there.
Lastly, no mention of Hyvaa? I don't think he's top 10 material but beating Jaedong in a ZvZ (statistically the toughest matchup to win for a progamer) as well as playing fantastic against Light (twice!) should get him a mention somewhere even if he hasn't done much else.
My 2cents for what it's worth. Overall, another great Power Rank, always fun to read and I'm not criticising it one bit, the above post is meant for harmless discussion fun only.
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On May 15 2009 15:18 Origami wrote:
Watching Skyhigh play is so bizarre. It's not so much his crazy aggressive strats that impress me as much as his incredibly awkward defenses that he manages to throw together at the last second.
It's like he'll spend every factory production round on vultures that go straight to the enemy base and then has to defend his own shit against 8 dragoons with a single tank and some SCVs. I've never seen a player that has to use SCV defense as much as him in a long time.
Dude... Flash uses SCV defense like every other game.....
I liked the PR.
Although I think someone else should've been there for theZerg (even though he's been a key to SKT's success) and JD over Zero! But I'll live. :p
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konadora
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It's now May, JD will be top Zerg again 
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Great writeup, bah @ JD 4th and below zero but whatever, I've only watched zero-kal so I can't exactly argue.
Still I guess the other way of looking at it is that Jaedong is still 4th after a pretty damn shaky start to the month, and he's still looking set to tear up all the leagues this month.
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On May 15 2009 13:14 Plexa wrote:
Everyone around here knows that I am probably the largest anti-fan of Hwaesung on the planet, and probably top 10 anti-jaedong. But even I cannot understand how Jaedong slips from #1 to #4 in the space of a month. What exactly has Jaedong done to slip this far? Well he lost a game to Ganzi, Movie, fantasy and Hyvaa while destroying everyone else in existence. Indeed, he destroyed Ganzi in their next encounter, and finished movie off in the next two game.
Jaedong's play as of this exact moment is as sharp as ever and I would expect him to defeat Fantasy and Zero (and probably bisu) on any given day of the week based off their current skills. Bisu hasn't done anything too fantastic to claim #1, just won his proleague games bashing a bunch of average gamers (bar leta and zero) in games that weren't exactly spectacular. Fantasy has done nothing really to claim #2 - losing to Calm and Hogil and beating a bunch of scrubs (and Jaedong).
And as much as I love Zero, in no way is he deserving of being called #3 at this point - he's probably top 5, but top 3 is a bit too much. Imo
1) Jaedong
2) Bisu
3) Fantasy
4) Zero
Wow someone just put words on my thoughts after reading this PR. Seeing Bisu as nr1 could be ok, even though, as said, there hasnt been anything remarkable that should bump JD off the throne so easily.
Wanted to say that I liked the PR nonetheless, good read
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SKT1_fantasy wrote:
Whether it is practice or live, I am always calm when I play against Protoss. I don't really feel as though I will lose. It's just easy.
omg you sick fuck
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Good job JWD! I probably would have changed some minor things like switching Bisu with fantasy for example, but you reasoning for each position is sound.
And thx for stepping up and doing the power rank at all!
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JWD
Your writing style is truly amazing, but in my opinion you could have done a lot better job with the rankings.
Jaedong lost 5 games : 3 PL, 1 in a series that he won, 1 in an MST group he passed. 5 losses which have abolutely no impact, since JD is still in all 3 of the leauges (count how many players can say this) and OZ is still sitting confortably on the first place.
He was clearly playing on a lot lower level than he should in APRIL, but since this month began he's on a tear again, he's on a five games winning streak, 8-2 in his last 10 games, and playing very strong.
OK, you decided to deny him the first place, that was ofc expected; even the second place, k, this was in the air too, but putting a ZERG on the 3rd, andh JD on 4th... You cannot be serious about this.
Let me analyze what you said about Zero, i'm just reflecting, i hope nobody gets offended.
"It's official: for the first time since December 2007, Jaedong is not the Power Rank's highest-ranked Zerg (holy crap, December 2007)."
Your first line is one of the biggest counter-argument for Zero being ahead, JD simply did not play bad enough or lost important matches to take the Topzerg title away from him. NO, this just isnt acceptable. Even if JD had dropped out from MSL this would be hard to accept... BUt he did not.
"Have you visited Zero's TLPD page lately? Things are beginning to look a bit crazy in there. Aside from 4-0ing his OSL group with infested Terrans for style, over the past month Zero has unleashed a ferocious beatdown on his fellow Zergs to prove that his LostSaga MSL practice hours have made him a premier ZvZ player to rival even the Legend Killer"
You are using the infested terrans (the whole protoss race is crying about how imba they are, and that map is) as an argument to prove he's good.
His ZvZ is good, that's ok, but how can you say he's a rival for JD? He took 1 game couple months ago, and lost more than that, JD has NO rival in ZvZ, i thought eventhe most fanatic anti-JD-fans would agree on that. Zero beat Orion (so what?), Calm+Yarnc (they're good, gets a points for that), and Luxury, who previously destroyed him, when he was in shape, but now, Lux's play is just crappy, check his gameslist, everyobdy beat him recently. He played 2 people who are on this PR list, Leta and Bisu, got owned by both of them.
If you wanted to put Zero ahead of JD, for some reasons i do not understand, you shouldn't have even mentioned ZvZ, or the Legendkiller....
Zero is a dangerous zerg, arguably as good as Effort, arguably better than Calm, yarnc ..., but to compare him with JD.... No... His TLPD looks so good, but c'mon wins over Iron and Orion just cannot be taken into account.
I would be honored if you'd answer this post.
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On May 15 2009 13:14 Plexa wrote:
Everyone around here knows that I am probably the largest anti-fan of Hwaesung on the planet, and probably top 10 anti-jaedong. But even I cannot understand how Jaedong slips from #1 to #4 in the space of a month. What exactly has Jaedong done to slip this far? Well he lost a game to Ganzi, Movie, fantasy and Hyvaa while destroying everyone else in existence. Indeed, he destroyed Ganzi in their next encounter, and finished movie off in the next two game.
Jaedong's play as of this exact moment is as sharp as ever and I would expect him to defeat Fantasy and Zero (and probably bisu) on any given day of the week based off their current skills. Bisu hasn't done anything too fantastic to claim #1, just won his proleague games bashing a bunch of average gamers (bar leta and zero) in games that weren't exactly spectacular. Fantasy has done nothing really to claim #2 - losing to Calm and Hogil and beating a bunch of scrubs (and Jaedong).
And as much as I love Zero, in no way is he deserving of being called #3 at this point - he's probably top 5, but top 3 is a bit too much. Imo
1) Jaedong
2) Bisu
3) Fantasy
4) Zero
Just read this, i never even dreamt about a post like this from Plexa.
Respect!
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this is shit. zero above JD? fantasy above anyone? thezerg? sorry dude. imo fail. what does the powerrank represent? it is apparently just a joke now. kespa?
who has zero beat besides b class players? same for fantasy.
 ZerO's recent wins are all versus scrubs. (kal, iron, orion, baby...) his only impressive wins were against calm and luxury.. zvz no less.
when he played Leta, he lost. when he played stork, and bisu.. he lost.
zero should be above fantasy but not JD.. what are you trying to say here man....
 fantasy has beaten JD once in PL recently.. other than that he has wins over scrubs only (e.g. movie, zergbong, frozean, anytime, sea? rofl)
 Horang2 should be on this...
recently he has taken down the likes of
light, best, stork, hwasin, flash.... not to mention his strats are sick and highly entertaining
i would expect these kinds of shenanigans over at the other sc site.. but here?
also, why is everyone like "thanks for steppin up? how hard is it to pick 10 hot players?" can i do it next? i promise Dazurg will be absent.
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KeSPA played a very high lvl of play each time they won.. They walk on thin slice of mistake (yes, ONE mistake), and the opponent will lose and be eliminated.. Such level of play is indeed worthy to be in the Power Rank.. However, i suggest that KeSPA should be up on the top, the first, since any player who did a SLIGHTEST mistake, they will end up losing and failing horribly.
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look at my sig
dogspa was ranked too low this month considering that they are the 5th bonjwa
btw, the dogspa pic is too perfect lol
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On May 15 2009 16:28 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2009 16:07 De4ngus wrote:On May 15 2009 15:59 Sentenal wrote:
I just noticed that Bisu is the only Protoss on the list. The only Dragon that has yet to be slain, eh? I wonder if one of Dragons like Stork/Jangbi will make a comeback, or if Protoss fans need to look to the next generation of Protosses for the next big Protoss stars. There is no other generation. The dragons were all protoss had. well the first generation was reach, kingdom and nal_ra second generation was anytime, pusan and stork and the third generation is technically the six dragons. fourth? my picks are movie, pure and horang2.
What about Zeus?
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lol at KeSPA. man... it got onto the PR!
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What, Fantasy's TvZ is good? Since when? It's always been just mediocre. 50% lifetime? 4-6 last 10, even if 3 losses were to JD? He's lost his 2 last TvZs to hogil and calm. Career win% of 56 just isn't enough for #2 in PR.
Jaedong is 8-2 in his last 10 and still winning in pretty much every match-up, although his ZvT can be considered shaky. Still, not nearly as shaky as Fantasy's TvZ, (5-5 in last 10, and 2 of those losses were to fantasy). Bisu #1 I can accept, although he most likely will just fail in single leagues. Zero's #3 spot was fine, and had Jaedong been #2, I'd have been fine with it. But Fantasy just hasn't done anything to warrant a #2 place, he's just way below both Bisu and Jaedong and isn't even the favorite against Zero. Hopefully he'll drop out of both SL's so people realize he sucks.
It's nice to see TheZerg in the PL, and KeSPA is an obvious choice. I might have switched around the order etc of the #5 - #8, but overall it's a decent power rank, except for Fantasy being at #2 after doing pretty much nothing and having 2 terrible losses against Hogil and Calm.
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I absolutely cannot fathom why Zero is above Jaedong or why, and this one really gets me, TheZerg is above Great or Calm, and the reason given is, "I remember thinking he wasn't good enough for the 10 spot." Almost a cop out answer. Great has been carrying Samsung Flash style lately, whereas TheZerg has the strongest team in the league to take the slack off. He probably plays in the least stressful position a proleague player can, and that was your reason to GIVE him the 10 spot.
I don't mind differing opinions, but that is just ghastly.
The entire Zero part of the Power Rank is worded almost as if you did it specifically TO say there's a better zerg than Jaedong right now. Sorry, there isn't.
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yeah u gotta decide what u wanna dedicate the power rank to.. In the past I always had the impression it should show you the "best" players currently on a quick overview. I wasn't under the impression that everything further back than 1 month would be completely ignored. What if a player is seeded into both leagues and doesn't even have to play qualifications? Does it mean that scrubs take over the #1 spot just because they could earn some respectable wins?
I always understood "power rank" more from its semantic meaning in terms of "which player has the most power atm". And everybody knows that cept a top-form bisu, nobody has more power than JD atm. Not Fantasy and certainly not Zero. He would still easily pummel them to a bloody pulp in an important series and everybody knows it. Still they are ranked higher....
Honestly I think you should reflect the concept of "power rank" cus it doesn't make much sense with rankings like these...
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