Which race do you think is currently the strongest?

On May 06 2016 09:06 Shield wrote:
Some people vote for a race just because last GSL Code S was won by protoss. I think you should vote in general. The truth is protoss is the least played race. It doesn't make sense if the strongest race is the least played race. Some could say fun is more important but there are a lot of people in sc2 who are happy to play whatever is the strongest not the most fun.

On May 06 2016 10:40 oGsChess wrote:
Winrates overall in KR leagues suggest Protoss (both PvT and PvZ favor Toss on highest level), EU tends more to Zerg, but there's considerably more Zergs in EU aswell. Terran does fine overall imo, although not overperforming like always.

On May 06 2016 11:49 Beelzebub1 wrote:
Protoss seems very powerful both on ladder and at the highest level of play, having a plethora of powerful macro and aggression builds along with the easiest to control end game gives them the edge in the meta.

Just because they are the least played doesn't mean they aren't the strongest, meta game shifts either chases people away or brings them back, if protoss remain this strong I guarantee we will see more protons on ladder.

On May 07 2016 07:26 Shield wrote:


Sure, but if you have an OP race, people are likely to switch to it. Why else do people like IdrA, Morrow, Artosis, TLO and so on change their races? Hint: it's not just because of fun.

On May 07 2016 07:32 Shield wrote:


Possibly, if you have a few Korean players who dominate but the same might not be true for race in general for non-pro players. That's why we need ladder stats but Blizzard stopped providing it at some point? After all, the poll isn't clear whether it asks in general or the strongest race in pro games.

On May 07 2016 04:20 KalWarkov wrote:


korean zergs seem to lack in the strategic departement, idk, i feel like a random EU zerg strat played by a top korean zerg would demolish everyone. Also, If LIFE was playing and he tried, i can guarantee you that zest wouldn't be champion right now...

i might be wrong though, and zerg is just quite easy to execute well enough to be good, but you cannot beat the best with it right now (too little things that divide skill). Hence, Guru can beat ppl Snute has trouble with, while snute can beat zest which no Zerg in korea can. i feel like zerg skill is really fucking random right now.


Terran is still struggling with tech transitions and rebuilding army. If they could remax / reinforce as fast as Z and P and techswitch as fast as espeically Z, T would probably be the best race.

Terrans don't even get to try to build their dream army cuz they struggle to rebuild T1 units to be able to remax fast enough.
I still don't see any P/Z army beating ~25 ravens, 10 vikings, some ranged liberators, 5 BCs, + a tiny bit of medivac/bio/ghost with mass scans.

But:
a) T won't ever be able to afford that without dying or playing 3 T base vs 5/6 P or Z bases
b) The army is highly immobile and hard to rebuild, even when always trading efficiently
c) it's pretty much impossible to control

TL:DR
After all, P is the best race right now results wise, at least in Korea. The reason is that Korean Z doesnt seem to be on top of their game [esp. strategy-wise] and is missing their all time star players, while the terran race as a whole is still a bit weird as it doesnt have good enough remax and transition / techswitch possibilities.

On May 08 2016 00:56 SNSeigifried wrote:
You guys do realize that zest is only a god vs terran/protoss right :D
http://aligulac.com/players/1658/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=LotV&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

On May 06 2016 09:06 Shield wrote:
Some people vote for a race just because last GSL Code S was won by protoss. I think you should vote in general. The truth is protoss is the least played race. It doesn't make sense if the strongest race is the least played race. Some could say fun is more important but there are a lot of people in sc2 who are happy to play whatever is the strongest not the most fun.

On May 09 2016 04:05 Shield wrote:


Zerg is the most played race, hence they can't admit their race is the strongest or most flexible one. At least versus protoss. How do you explain some random zerg (departure) winning against Zest (GSL Code S champion)? Well, I can't.



I guess it's more or less this at the moment.

On May 16 2016 09:09 breaker1328 wrote:


"Whichever race I am currently playing against is the strongest race, yes, even in mirror match ups."

It's difficult for a lot of players to take a step back and look at the game balance as a whole when it comes to which race is the best. Protoss are stuck playing stargate openers all the time, zerg has a million mid game options but aren't that great late game without ultras, terrans are seemingly not allowed to play mech at all anymore, there's a lot of things to dislike about the balance but when you look at it objectively there's also counter balances where immortals and archons nullify an entire race in zerg, where terrans can win high level games with marines and medivacs, where zerg can mass muta/ling/bane and annoy their opponents into submission.

I think game balance is in a pretty good place overall right now, even if some of the minutiae is frustrating. As a protoss and sometimes random player, I personally voted that zerg is the strongest race, even though my personal win rate is highest against zerg and lowest against toss. The immense amount of options that zerg has going into the midgame is something that, to me, is lacking in the other races.

On May 11 2016 23:57 Hurricaned wrote:
As a terran I feel like protoss is just too strong right now. It's always ahead economically. It has a lot of cheeses that are very powerful where theres little to no cheese that works as terran. Protoss late game army (air + storms) is simply unmatched by any terran composition and terran can not be aggressive until a long time because MSC defends so well. It's basically WoL PvT but instead of terran being strong in mid game it is now weak all game.
Zerg has a very strong late game and in fact I don't know how to deal with a maxed hive army but Terran finally got a unit that could deal with mass mutas and terran can still do mid game timing so the matchup isn't as bad as PvT.
I have no clue about PvZ though.