On August 21 2013 18:39 Ragnarork wrote: Haha that poll !
Interesting, because I just got aware of Street Fighter 2 Super Turbo esports scene, and was a bit surprised to learn that the game is actually imbalanced, that there's an official list of "which fighers are better in X or X match-up", and that seems not to harm that much the game...
prolly because unlike in sc2 you don't just play one fighter, you play them all (or at least more than one) right? The reason that sc2 is different in that racial imbalances cause the game to suffer is that, if one race is blatantly weaker/stronger than the others, people will get frustrated with playing because they can't really just switch their race like fighters in a fighting game.
True, but I've seen some of these top Koreans off race and still win games all the way up in GM. Going Random/learning more than one race is challenging, but when you already have the mechanics and control, you're most of the way there. Its just knowledge at that point.
On August 21 2013 18:39 Ragnarork wrote: Haha that poll !
Interesting, because I just got aware of Street Fighter 2 Super Turbo esports scene, and was a bit surprised to learn that the game is actually imbalanced, that there's an official list of "which fighers are better in X or X match-up", and that seems not to harm that much the game...
prolly because unlike in sc2 you don't just play one fighter, you play them all (or at least more than one) right? The reason that sc2 is different in that racial imbalances cause the game to suffer is that, if one race is blatantly weaker/stronger than the others, people will get frustrated with playing because they can't really just switch their race like fighters in a fighting game.
True, but I've seen some of these top Koreans off race and still win games all the way up in GM. Going Random/learning more than one race is challenging, but when you already have the mechanics and control, you're most of the way there. Its just knowledge at that point.
You're right. But I wouldn't bet on any top korean beating another top korean when he is off-racing. You still have to choose one race to perfect. That's also why we have no Random-Player in the Pro-Scence.
toss op, terran needs to reworked (widowmines are too luckbased for it's impact) and blizz just doesn't know what to do with zerg: they see zerg has problems with being able to do all the things at the same time they need for lategame. so instead of the logical solution: making good multitasking, macro and lategame unitcontrol more rewarding, they are looking to buff ultra's basically saying zerg needs to become a 1-A race, which should be avoided at all costs!
I am a zerg player (but I don't play much, I mostly watch) voting that there is no significant imbalance. I believe that is true because right now it seems predictions of upcoming games are based more on who we think is a more skillful player (of course, sprinkled with taking into consideration factors such as Artosis curse and Bomber law), than basing it on what race we perceive to be strongest in a matchup, with map pool taken into consideration.
We see all races winning tournaments, which is nice. I hope this state of good balance will last a while, because it makes the game more enjoyable to watch than ever
Depends on the level. If the Terran plays perfectly aka Innovation, then Terran seems strong. But in master league I have to say it is pretty mind boggling how strong Protoss is.
The Game is pretty well balanced. I think Zerg is just SLIGHTLY.... VERY SLIGHTLY weaker but overall i think its pretty even across the board.
People who complain just want to get easy wins from previous buffs they used to have. If you having trouble beating a certain race then you need to change your approach to playing... Thats what i did and i am really enjoying playing again. Even when i lose a close match i enjoy it because i learn and apply that to the next game.
On August 20 2013 23:52 dNa wrote: I feel like everything will come into place. Terrans need some time to figure out some way to punish too greedy protosses but overall yay balanced. :D <- Terran
What? I'ts impossible for Protoss to me more greeedy than command center first :S
Going for early 3 nexus is a part of the meta at the moment and there's been no super reliable way of shutting it down presented by Terran. 14cc may be more greedy in the early game but in the early->mid transition, Protoss has it much easier and much greedier (if they choose to play that way).
On August 22 2013 03:48 Jornada wrote: The Game is pretty well balanced. I think Zerg is just SLIGHTLY.... VERY SLIGHTLY weaker but overall i think its pretty even across the board.
People who complain just want to get easy wins from previous buffs they used to have. If you having trouble beating a certain race then you need to change your approach to playing... Thats what i did and i am really enjoying playing again. Even when i lose a close match i enjoy it because i learn and apply that to the next game.
Or you just don't played 40 game in a row toss all in as terran, way to be master, when you had 59%(for each match up) last season(New season play only vs all in 20% win vs toss !!!). Try it you'll see how it goes !!! come back give us your opinion !!!! THX !
On August 21 2013 18:39 Ragnarork wrote: Haha that poll !
Interesting, because I just got aware of Street Fighter 2 Super Turbo esports scene, and was a bit surprised to learn that the game is actually imbalanced, that there's an official list of "which fighers are better in X or X match-up", and that seems not to harm that much the game...
prolly because unlike in sc2 you don't just play one fighter, you play them all (or at least more than one) right? The reason that sc2 is different in that racial imbalances cause the game to suffer is that, if one race is blatantly weaker/stronger than the others, people will get frustrated with playing because they can't really just switch their race like fighters in a fighting game.
It depends, the documentary I've seen on EVO2013 showed that you can have both. Some players will stick to their main even in a blatanlty unfavorable match-up, while others won't hesitate to switch inside Bo3 for example, if they feel they can surprise, or just to get a more favorable match-up.