On August 20 2013 23:18 BlackCompany wrote:
The game feels like T>Z>P>T at the moment, but no imbalances. Just slightly stronger in certain aspects i feel.

Actually, P>Z and also P>T, and T>Z. I agree though, in that no race is actually super overpowered or underpowered.

Witten

United States2094 Posts

August 22 2013 06:18 GMT

#68

No race is significantly imbalanced. People love to blame their struggles with the game on inbalances instead of blaming themselves for making lots of mistakes, the game is actually pretty decently balanced right now.

Kabras

Romania3508 Posts

August 22 2013 07:05 GMT

#69

Warpgate op, a-move op.

asdfOu

United States2089 Posts

August 22 2013 07:05 GMT

#70

On August 22 2013 14:13 Mura19 wrote:
Nice graphic GodZo, that prove 37% peoples voting Protoss OP don't understand the game

Protoss (1096) 37%
No race is significantly imbalanced (845) 29%
Terran (762) 26%
Zerg (241) 8%

.... if you are going off that graphic then why don't u go off the fact that protoss dominates higher leagues number wise. (higher leagues as in gm and masters) it's about (for all regions combined) 42% toss 26% terran 31% zerg....
i've played over 1000 ladder games this season as a masters terran and i literally LITERALLY have not beat one protoss in a straight up game without them just derping. it's so insanely hard with the mothership core denying any serious pressure etc etc. i don't think it's like stupidly broken, but it's defintely broken in my eyes. sorry if this seems like hardcore balance whine because it probably is and i feel like this is the appropriate thread for it

Pandahunterz

Netherlands213 Posts

August 22 2013 08:06 GMT

#71

a clear problem i have seen with many people talking about the balance and even within blizz itself is that they think if ladder winrate is around 50% for all races the game is balanced. This however is NOT always true! the ladder-system is designed to always give people a winrate around the 50% as long as you play enough games, by matching you up against harder opponents if you win too much or easier if you lose too much. For example lets say you are on plat level skill, but now you pick a race with a huge adventage (hypothetically speaking). you keep on winning till you get in master league where you start getting a 50% winrate. people will now say: "see the race is balanced it has 50% winrate" but they forget that this is because the players are playing above their own skill-level. in their original league they could have had a 90% winrate, meaning one of the races could have a significant advantage, but the overall ladder-statistics wouldn't even give you the slightest clue about this.

5p4z3n3k0

Netherlands19 Posts

August 22 2013 08:24 GMT

#72

@GodZo, and Mura, Pls, Don't come here with false information, or trying to bash people. You took the information from one portion of the internet, and shown you don't even read.

from the site:

"Note that this yields information about metagame balance near the the top of the skill ladder, and not to be confused with (although likely correlated to) actual game balance throughout the whole player population."

Balance in other leagues is different. You can blame it on skill, but if one race demands less mechanics than another race, wouldn't that be "imbalanced" in it's own way ?

Even in the graphics protoss have shown a significant uprising. It is based on a point system that takes the average of all players, and there are way more Terrans and Zergs in the pro scene. at least that are my thoughts about it.

samurai80

Japan4225 Posts

August 22 2013 10:41 GMT

#73

On August 22 2013 17:24 5p4z3n3k0 wrote:
@GodZo, and Mura, Pls, Don't come here with false information, or trying to bash people. You took the information from one portion of the internet, and shown you don't even read.

from the site:

"Note that this yields information about metagame balance near the the top of the skill ladder, and not to be confused with (although likely correlated to) actual game balance throughout the whole player population."

Balance in other leagues is different. You can blame it on skill, but if one race demands less mechanics than another race, wouldn't that be "imbalanced" in it's own way ?

Even in the graphics protoss have shown a significant uprising. It is based on a point system that takes the average of all players, and there are way more Terrans and Zergs in the pro scene. at least that are my thoughts about it.

This graph may be the balance for those at the top, but first that is what matters if you're an esports fan, and second as it's said, it's "likely [to be] correlated to [the] actual game balance throughout the whole player population." Of course "likely" doesn't mean it is the right graph for the whole population, but at least protoss are likely to be not OP if they are still slightly underwhelming in the pro scene.

Juicy Orange

Canada133 Posts

August 22 2013 12:55 GMT

#74

Marines OP. Terran OP.

Wrathsc2

United States2025 Posts

August 22 2013 13:35 GMT

#75

voted toss op jus cuz lol

FFW_Rude

France10201 Posts

August 22 2013 13:47 GMT

#76

Voted toss op because

- Gold zerg on EU (main race)
- Silver terran on NA (newly main race)
- Platinum Protoss on KR (derp race)

mhael

United States102 Posts

August 22 2013 14:27 GMT

#77

Protoss is so IMBA that at OSL - the winner stomped the toss hard - who was terran by the way.

IMBA was zerg in WoL. Every KR tourney - winning everything - being 6 of the top 8. That was imbalanced and impossible to watch.

OSL and Starleague have been great to watch - everything seems very balanced.

borussia1871

Belgium23 Posts

August 22 2013 15:08 GMT

#78

I was Zerg during 2 years, now I'm playing Protoss. For me, Terran is definitely the stronger race.

Dwayn

Germany949 Posts

August 22 2013 16:17 GMT

#79

voted toss, because they have an edge in every matchup. I meet master tosses on EU ladder with like 60-80 apm, never seen a terran or a zerg hit masters with such low apm. Also toss has the best 2 base allins.

HeeroFX

United States2704 Posts

August 22 2013 16:43 GMT

#80

I think Zerg, just a strong race, lots of ways to hurt. I'd like to see a poll of what we think the weakest race is.