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jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 19:44:21
September 26 2012 19:43 GMT
#121
On September 27 2012 02:14 KookyMonster wrote:
I'd be extremely surprised to see the kespa players win. They have quite a bit less experience. Then again, they are/were the kings of BW, so there is a chance. That being said, MLG I think is the favorite.

Did you actually check who's participating? There are 24 top KeSPA players, including those who beat several Code S players already. Then you have 18 foreigners which will be happy to take few games and only 6 non-KeSPA Koreans who aren't all top in GSL. Few have some chance but against 24 people it's really small chance.
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Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
September 26 2012 19:44 GMT
#122
On September 25 2012 05:17 xuanzue wrote:
O M G

jaedong making carry, i want to believe

Jaedong can't even maintain code A doubt he'll do much of anything here.
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JoFeSboyAT
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria128 Posts
September 26 2012 20:07 GMT
#123
Kespa players gogogo you my heros!
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Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
September 26 2012 20:59 GMT
#124
OMG 50% MLG vs 50% KeSPA... pretty close poll !
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Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
September 26 2012 21:10 GMT
#125
On September 27 2012 04:43 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 02:14 KookyMonster wrote:
I'd be extremely surprised to see the kespa players win. They have quite a bit less experience. Then again, they are/were the kings of BW, so there is a chance. That being said, MLG I think is the favorite.

Did you actually check who's participating? There are 24 top KeSPA players, including those who beat several Code S players already. Then you have 18 foreigners which will be happy to take few games and only 6 non-KeSPA Koreans who aren't all top in GSL. Few have some chance but against 24 people it's really small chance.


According to this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371740 all 6 non-KeSPA Koreans declined the invite, so who will be the one to win 24 KeSPA Koreans now? Stephano? Fat chance....
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freeofme
Profile Joined October 2011
United States11 Posts
September 26 2012 21:35 GMT
#126
On September 27 2012 06:10 Madars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:43 jnd wrote:
On September 27 2012 02:14 KookyMonster wrote:
I'd be extremely surprised to see the kespa players win. They have quite a bit less experience. Then again, they are/were the kings of BW, so there is a chance. That being said, MLG I think is the favorite.

Did you actually check who's participating? There are 24 top KeSPA players, including those who beat several Code S players already. Then you have 18 foreigners which will be happy to take few games and only 6 non-KeSPA Koreans who aren't all top in GSL. Few have some chance but against 24 people it's really small chance.


According to this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371740 all 6 non-KeSPA Koreans declined the invite, so who will be the one to win 24 KeSPA Koreans now? Stephano? Fat chance....


Nope, all but 6 non-KeSPA koreans declined the invite. There will still be Alicia, MC, OZ, CranK, PuMa, and aLive participating in the tournament. None of which are on esf teams.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
September 26 2012 21:43 GMT
#127
Lol, the poll says 50% for MLG but now it will be less if they were to chance to revote... XD
hmm... let's think about it
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
September 26 2012 21:49 GMT
#128
On September 27 2012 06:35 freeofme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 06:10 Madars wrote:
On September 27 2012 04:43 jnd wrote:
On September 27 2012 02:14 KookyMonster wrote:
I'd be extremely surprised to see the kespa players win. They have quite a bit less experience. Then again, they are/were the kings of BW, so there is a chance. That being said, MLG I think is the favorite.

Did you actually check who's participating? There are 24 top KeSPA players, including those who beat several Code S players already. Then you have 18 foreigners which will be happy to take few games and only 6 non-KeSPA Koreans who aren't all top in GSL. Few have some chance but against 24 people it's really small chance.


According to this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371740 all 6 non-KeSPA Koreans declined the invite, so who will be the one to win 24 KeSPA Koreans now? Stephano? Fat chance....


Nope, all but 6 non-KeSPA koreans declined the invite. There will still be Alicia, MC, OZ, CranK, PuMa, and aLive participating in the tournament. None of which are on esf teams.


All but 6 . . . 5 people declined . . . 8 invites in total . . . these numbers don't make any sense either way

"All 6" - but there were 8 invites?

"All but 6" - but if 5 ppl declined and there were 8 invites doesn't that means that all but 3 declined?
hmm... let's think about it
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 26 2012 21:51 GMT
#129
I swear this poll is rigged.
vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
September 27 2012 00:43 GMT
#130
with stephano out, mlg side's chance went from 90% to 20%
what quote?
Covariance
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada59 Posts
September 27 2012 01:19 GMT
#131
wow; it's actually 50/50 dead even.

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freeofme
Profile Joined October 2011
United States11 Posts
September 27 2012 01:55 GMT
#132
On September 27 2012 06:49 LowEloPlayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 06:35 freeofme wrote:
On September 27 2012 06:10 Madars wrote:
On September 27 2012 04:43 jnd wrote:
On September 27 2012 02:14 KookyMonster wrote:
I'd be extremely surprised to see the kespa players win. They have quite a bit less experience. Then again, they are/were the kings of BW, so there is a chance. That being said, MLG I think is the favorite.

Did you actually check who's participating? There are 24 top KeSPA players, including those who beat several Code S players already. Then you have 18 foreigners which will be happy to take few games and only 6 non-KeSPA Koreans who aren't all top in GSL. Few have some chance but against 24 people it's really small chance.


According to this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371740 all 6 non-KeSPA Koreans declined the invite, so who will be the one to win 24 KeSPA Koreans now? Stephano? Fat chance....


Nope, all but 6 non-KeSPA koreans declined the invite. There will still be Alicia, MC, OZ, CranK, PuMa, and aLive participating in the tournament. None of which are on esf teams.


All but 6 . . . 5 people declined . . . 8 invites in total . . . these numbers don't make any sense either way

"All 6" - but there were 8 invites?

"All but 6" - but if 5 ppl declined and there were 8 invites doesn't that means that all but 3 declined?


8 people where invited, 2 declined (LosirA and MarineKing) because they were on ESF teams. The other 6 are either owned by non ESF Korean teams, foreign teams, or are team-less in the case of CranK.

There are still 6 Koreans going to the invitational.

Seriously, freakin detective work just to make sense of that weirdly worded paragraph.
Savko
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada45 Posts
September 27 2012 02:12 GMT
#133
Wow. Sick poll results.
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Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
September 27 2012 05:59 GMT
#134
Everyone forgets the rule: All Koreans All the time

KeSPA players showed that they are on the cusp of overshadowing the GSL players in the recent WCS Korea. They are going to demolish foreigners not named Stephano.

I really want to see SKT T1 Rain (by.Sun) go against Stephano, what a PvZ it will be.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
September 27 2012 11:30 GMT
#135
On September 27 2012 06:51 Kasaraki wrote:
I swear this poll is rigged.


Whenever a poll has roughly 50/50 results at some point, people tend to vote to keep it even. I don't know why, but it happens a lot.
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
September 27 2012 12:37 GMT
#136
I initially voted for MLG to take this but i did so not realising stephano had pulled out and the non kespa korean pool was so small, I really dont get the distribution of seeds being 12 NA 6 EU and 6 KR, If Taeja or MKP were in this then I would definitely bet on MLG but as things stand I'm fairly certain Kespa should take it. Seeing how he crushed his group,and what fantastic form hes in at the moment, SKT T1 Rain is probably good enough to take this whole thing. The tournament had real potential but there are several issues stopping it from living up to that potential.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 27 2012 12:42 GMT
#137
On September 27 2012 14:59 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Everyone forgets the rule: All Koreans All the time

KeSPA players showed that they are on the cusp of overshadowing the GSL players in the recent WCS Korea. They are going to demolish foreigners not named Stephano.

I really want to see SKT T1 Rain (by.Sun) go against Stephano, what a PvZ it will be.


No what WCS showed was that there are indeed a handful of great SC2 players in Kespa, but that says nothing about the overall skill of Kespa. Players like Rain and Roro are playing amazing games but among most of Kespa the skill level is still a bit lower than that of GSL players and even some of the better foreigners.
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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 27 2012 12:45 GMT
#138
Really close poll.
I am going to go with MLG players.
anticipate
Profile Joined September 2012
United States4 Posts
September 27 2012 13:25 GMT
#139
as it happened in sc1 and bw, its inevitable the dominant force of korean talent will slowly emerge as the best, and dominate the scene from this point on. KeSPA rising, some big big talents from bw are bound to make new history in starcraft 2 as well. one can only hope best for the foreign players as these talents take over and it becomes harder for foreigners to win tournaments, let alone compete. the cycle of the past is returning.
even though esf players may had the lead in developing their game, kespa players are incredibly, incredibly talented and this is only the tip of the iceburg, so i say KeSPA.
line em up
kynka
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden34 Posts
September 27 2012 13:49 GMT
#140
lol kespa players is the future but i they havent had as mutch sc2 experiense so MLG players might still take this!!!
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