EPTHave the results of IPL3 and IEM Guangzhou changed your op…
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Goshdarnit
United States540 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Yeah, perhaps foreigner can beat these 2 ( even if Dimaga do it once against each ) but every other koreans, even the code S one ? I would not put my bet on them everytime. | ||
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WeaVerPrime
34 Posts
now i know that MMA (code S finalist now!) is a mediocre koreans... LOL ^^ | ||
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TicketoHELL
Canada368 Posts
On October 16 2011 04:18 WeaVerPrime wrote: i'm surprised to read phrase like "BEST foreigners have a good shot against mid-level Koreans "... now i know that MMA (code S finalist now!) is a mediocre koreans... LOL ^^ i dont remember MMA losing to foreigners...if youre talking about ipl he lost to lucky another korean | ||
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Fubi
2228 Posts
That is just like Yao Ming being good at basketball, but you don't see people suddenly going "yay Asians are catching up to the West in their basketball skills" | ||
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backtoback
Canada1276 Posts
On October 15 2011 05:20 clanbrown wrote: there is no skill gap. skill is an illusion, its all about practice and understanding the game. koreans practice more so they understand more...thats it. except skill comes from practicing..... therefore your statement has a contradiction | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
People need to realize that progamers are progamers, and the simple fact is this: The more exposure foreigners have to Korean gameplay, the smaller and smaller the gap will get. This is just an undeniable truth of competitive communities. I'm sure the NesTea and MVP groupies will scoff until the day a foreigner is elected president of Korea, but foreigners are looking great in tourneys. I'd love to see a close WCG at some point- and we're closer to that than ever. | ||
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zdfgucker
China594 Posts
Aside from that Korea has so much potential left, just think of all the BW Code A players that might switch prior to or for HotS. That's a shitload of at least MVP-level players that might enter the battlefield and leave the current top-tier players behind. Not even mentioning the BW Code S players as they are a league of their own. So for me nothing has changed. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On October 16 2011 07:44 TicketoHELL wrote: He lost to Stephano in the 3rd qualifier final (1-2).i dont remember MMA losing to foreigners...if youre talking about ipl he lost to lucky another korean It was online however, so people tend to dismiss the result. But from the way MMA played, he didn't play bad at all, he seemed to be playing his best, Stephano just played slightly better that match.. | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On October 16 2011 11:36 Crownlol wrote: Looks like a lot of Korea fanboys >.> People need to realize that progamers are progamers, and the simple fact is this: The more exposure foreigners have to Korean gameplay, the smaller and smaller the gap will get. This is just an undeniable truth of competitive communities. I'm sure the NesTea and MVP groupies will scoff until the day a foreigner is elected president of Korea, but foreigners are looking great in tourneys. I'd love to see a close WCG at some point- and we're closer to that than ever. Or perhaps, in four years when all the expansions have come out, and perhaps the skill cap has been raised so that 3 hours of practices no longer beats 8 hours, will we actually see "undeniable truth" in a competitive community. Once more and more talented Koreans start playing this game in its finished state, the larger the gap will get. See, I can dish out pointless speculation too. -_- | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:55 The KY wrote: If we're talking the very best Koreans, even the other Koreans have serious trouble beating them. I mean, are we calling everyone under MVP and Nestea 'mid-tier'? You do realize that Nestea was pretty mid tier in BW... imagine if the creme of the crop SC1 pros switched over to SC2. I don't mean players like BoxeR who are way past their prime, I mean current height of their career players. SC2 itself closes the skill gap somewhat since it is so much less mechanically demanding but seriously, foreigners can't even touch NesTea right now... how do you think they would fare against JaeDong? Get real people... SC2 isn't nearly as big in KR as it is here. Koreans still own white dudes, and until foreign CULTURE changes and the negative stigma on E-Sports are lessened it will always be that way. | ||
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eoLithic
Norway221 Posts
The fact that millenium.stephano had a goon run and won a major tournament doesn`t make Koreans worse, nor does it makes foreigners better. Foreingers in general get stomped by koreans, but some foreigners occasionally has a pretty good run in tournaments with alot of koreans in it, can`t really say it justifies any conclusion as to wether the skill gap between the scenes has decreased. Also, teamliquid members also seems to be very critical of small samples, oh well do I really have to point out how small the sample that resulted in this poll was? Kind of a shit poll in my opinion, we can allready see that things are back to normal over at MLG and IEM. On topic: little to no change. Reason? Koreans are simply alot better and stomps most foreigners, about it for this poll imo. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
Of course I can be wrong since I don't follow SC2 closely. That's just how I feel, though. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
you don't even need to bring up flash jaedong etc. the top 20 in bw right now are made up of players at least in the same class as mvp, who is being talked about as a G_d for having A team progamer basics. yea the scene outside of korea is growing, but korea has a huge huge head start with the bw players. | ||
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whitelly
Czech Republic50 Posts
And if so,how come stephano won that tournament? He was just lucky? | ||
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