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.Carnage
Profile Joined August 2010
United States99 Posts
January 15 2011 14:17 GMT
#21
On January 15 2011 20:11 canucks12 wrote:
I like the GSL 4 format a lot better because it makes it possible for a good player, that just so happens to go up against a powerhouse, to still advance. It helps to ensure that the later rounds will be filled with quality players, and very few players that got lucky draws.

I voted for GSL3 but arguments like this have really made me understand that the GSL4 format really is better, thanks.
He's just not the fastest zergling in the control group. -DayJ
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 15 2011 14:35 GMT
#22
The groups are better, but they leave much to be desired the ODT groups (now MSL groups) would be sooo much better. The group from today would have played out so much differently, say something like this:
+ Show Spoiler +
MC > clide
MKP > Jinro

MC vs MKP
Jinro vs Clide

And if MKP and Jinro won, we'd have Jinro vs MC for the final set.

Makes a lot more sense than the current format
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Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
January 15 2011 14:47 GMT
#23
The MSL format is hands down the best way to do groups, but GSL has actually come up with a very entertaining way to do groups. Sure it confused everyone including the commentators but it's not a bad system and it's pretty fair.
OTIX
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden491 Posts
January 15 2011 15:33 GMT
#24
On January 15 2011 20:59 JayDee_ wrote:
I wish they did a 32 person double elimination tourney. That would be most fair imo. I suppose that would take too many games?

Double elim makes for some really anticlimactic finals.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
January 15 2011 15:46 GMT
#25
GSL4 gives people a better chance to show that they are truly the best in the group.
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Karasandra
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1 Post
January 15 2011 15:52 GMT
#26
I like groups because it figures out who is better then who in each group not just which person is better then 1 person. think of it this way you have 4 players 1v2 and 3v4 say 1 and 3 win thier match's if it wasn't groups they would move on but what if player 2 was better then player 3 thats what the group gets to is what if the loser of 1 match is better then the winner in the other match. thats why it is winner versus loser setup.
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GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
January 15 2011 16:30 GMT
#27
I like groups because it makes the players play good allover instead of powering a single match up until the end of infinity.
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 16:43:52
January 15 2011 16:43 GMT
#28
I like the groups better, but how about a format that allows a player like ST_Bomber to make the finals in his first tournament, and not have it take three GSL's for a good player to actually have a chance at winning? Seeding is fine, but restricting the tournament to seeded players? Silly.
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 15 2011 16:48 GMT
#29
Also, another bad thing about this season, Ro8 is only Bo3's. I mean, really? You couldn't even go to Bo5 for this round?
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chameleonism
Profile Joined May 2010
United States31 Posts
January 15 2011 16:58 GMT
#30
A true round robin needs to be adopted otherwise you can have someone at a slight advantage and someone at a slight disadvantage since you may dodge someone in a group. I am sure MarineKing was thrilled that he didn't have to play the GSL3 champion, MC, who has been steam rolling everyone (up until last night at least).

The argument can be made that all you have to do is win and you will move on but the fact that it is group play yet you don't play everyone in the group seems competitively imbalanced.
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
January 15 2011 17:44 GMT
#31
Full group play would be awful, you might end up with a 3-way tie at 2:1 and the last player at 0:3. It's also better than just having two BO3's like in the previous tournaments without group stages, since it's more likely that the groups two best player advance.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
January 15 2011 18:01 GMT
#32
I like the GSL groups but they absolutely need to mix up the way the groups are made. The way it is now allows for rematches pretty early and it's not mixed well (because they only mix group A and B, then C with D for example so players can meet again as early as the RO8...

Would be a lot more interesting with better mixing.
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annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
January 15 2011 18:52 GMT
#33
Yeah the MSL group format is alot easier to understand and I think more fair than the crapshoot we currently have.

There are 2 games (1 and 2), after that we have two winners (1W and 2W) and two losers (1L and 2L)

The next games are a winners match (1W vs. 2W) and a losers match (1L vs. 2L)

The winner of 1W vs 2W advances, the loser of 1W vs. 2W faces the winner of 1L vs. 2L, and the loser of 1L vs 2L is out. The winner of W vs. L advances.

Also, I;m not really a fan of having 2 rounds of group stages (spoiler for GSL Ro8 coming)

+ Show Spoiler +
Because we can get odd rematches like another IdrA vs Jinro match, which we've already seen in the Ro32


What was so wrong witht eh MSL bracket system that they felt they had to change them?
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TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
January 15 2011 19:44 GMT
#34
GSL4 has blossomed into a great pool of talented players.
Good games everywhere. It's like my dream has come true!
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mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
January 15 2011 20:00 GMT
#35
I really like the current system. With group stages and then brackets. Think it makes the better and more well-rounded players advance. If you're lucky you can get same match-up all the way, which I feel is unfortunate.

Fruitdealer going all the way through the brackets facing mostly Terrans, and cheesing his way to win against InCa. You got the feeling he was kinda lucky with the brackets.
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Brewed Tea
Profile Joined October 2010
United States124 Posts
January 15 2011 21:18 GMT
#36
I feel that even if it isn't the best system, that it definitely got some of the best(stacked) results in a tournament so far, the amount of skill in the level of players in the final 8 is ridiculous and i think its great.
if it wasnt for mules terrans would have to 15 hatch every game.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
January 15 2011 22:22 GMT
#37
GSL 4 style is better - players that are really good but not as good as say nestea have a chance to advance and see how well they do against other players. if it were like the last seasons, someone who went up against nestea might just lose 0-2 and no one would know how good he really is etc.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
January 15 2011 22:27 GMT
#38
On January 16 2011 01:58 chameleonism wrote:
A true round robin needs to be adopted otherwise you can have someone at a slight advantage and someone at a slight disadvantage since you may dodge someone in a group. I am sure MarineKing was thrilled that he didn't have to play the GSL3 champion, MC, who has been steam rolling everyone (up until last night at least).

The argument can be made that all you have to do is win and you will move on but the fact that it is group play yet you don't play everyone in the group seems competitively imbalanced.

mkp all killed ogs including mc on Jan 14th.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184239
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 22:55:21
January 15 2011 22:54 GMT
#39
I really think Ro16 should be brackets, or actually I want it to be groups but with Bo3 instead of Bo1.
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darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
January 15 2011 23:00 GMT
#40
I like the GSL4 format just because the better player will come out, but I also think it should be bo3
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