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ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
January 15 2011 23:05 GMT
#41
You know what would really be cool?
Double elimination brackets.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 16 2011 00:27 GMT
#42
I think groups favor save games, but I might be wrong, maybe it's the general state of the game that has changed since GSL3...
TheKanAry
Profile Joined August 2010
United States149 Posts
January 16 2011 02:37 GMT
#43
Groups are better IMO, because you see more match-ups between players who would not necessarily face each other in a bracketed situation, and you get to see more match-up diversity.
those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
January 16 2011 03:22 GMT
#44
I picked groups, but ideally I would like ro32 groups into ro16 bracket w/bo5. Using a bo1 in the ro16 just seems wrong, even if they're using group format.
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TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
January 16 2011 03:46 GMT
#45
On January 15 2011 22:22 Kanil wrote:
I don't mind groups in theory, but the group format is awful.

MSL-style groups > GSL3 bracket > GSL4 groups.


I completely agree on the first part.
I dont know MSL groups. But everybody should play against everyone in that group and ties should be played out that would be much better..
Look at poor jinro having to play MK.prime and MC twice.. While MK and MC got a free win from playing rainbow..
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 16 2011 04:11 GMT
#46
Tough call. The thing here is that GSL4 has been better cause the scrubs have been rooted out (for the most part) But in the future the bracket (as GTR suggested) would be better.
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
January 16 2011 05:46 GMT
#47
Add another category for OSL/MSL group styles?
"Duty is heavy as a mountain, death is light as a feather." CJ Entus Fighting! <3 Effort
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
January 16 2011 06:28 GMT
#48
LOL who voted bracket? I'd rather not have my favorite players be eliminated in a blink of an eye to cheese unless GSL plans on extending games to BO7s.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 16 2011 07:05 GMT
#49
Groups are great. Always a mix of games and they give the better players a better chance. I don't know if ro16 should have groups too though. A big bracket stage adds a lot more tension.

The GSL group format is terrible though. I have no idea what they were thinking. I remember casters saying that it was the best way to rank people 1-4 in fewer games, but MSL is waaaaaay better at doing that.

All this said, I don't really care what the GSL does.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 16 2011 07:19 GMT
#50
MSL groups have the same problems as GSL groups, I don't know why you'd complain about GSL groups and advocate MSL groups.

A full round robin is the best, although I don't know if they'd have time for the tiebreakers.
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
January 16 2011 10:05 GMT
#51
I prefer groups over brackets, but I voted brackets because I don't like the way the matches are determined in GSL4. For instance, Jinro had to play MC twice, while MarineKing didn't have to play MC even once. In the MSL format you can also dodge a single player, but at least the opponents are determined in a consistent way. I don't like round robin, because it allows for a three-way tie.
Buddhist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States658 Posts
January 16 2011 12:18 GMT
#52
It should be fucking BO3 and double elimination for ro64 up. Seriously. Probably bo5 at ro8 or w/e.

If this tournament is going to have such a large prize pool, and be so prestigious, why does the format have to be SO TERRIBLE?

Group format works too if every match is bo3 instead of bo1. That way one two players who could clearly both win the whole thing won't definitely get removed in ro8 (idra and jinro, for example).

I really don't understand why any tournament that is trying to be serious isn't both bo>3+, AND double or triple elimination. It really makes no sense. Yes, it would take more time to do. It's worth it though with something so big.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
January 16 2011 12:30 GMT
#53
ro32 groups and ro16 brackets....like the world cup
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havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
January 16 2011 13:24 GMT
#54
Obviously the group system right now isn't perfect - Bo1s are kind of stupid (map luck) + it's a bit unfair that players with 2-0 are automatically in the next round (although in a normal group format there could be a tie of 3 players with 2-1) - but...
This format is still way better than a single elimination format!

Best would still be a full Bo3 group format (with all players facing each other) or DE (Bo3s, Round of 16 Bo5).
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
January 16 2011 14:26 GMT
#55
I dunno really.. The quality of the players in GSL4 has been sooo higher than in previous seasons that it's hard to even compare them. Perhaps having these players do bo3 eliminations would have been even more spectacular.
notrangerjoe
Profile Joined May 2009
110 Posts
January 16 2011 16:35 GMT
#56
I've hardly seen any of this season because I thought all this code stuff was still the prelims. I like brackets because I don't have to look up threads to see what the fuck is going on.
SilentDrop
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil29 Posts
January 16 2011 18:52 GMT
#57
Wow, people actually like GSL 4 format better ? Im surprised !
For me, this is completely wrong and boring (GSL 4 format - BO1 grouping). All games should be at least BO3.

Bad things about the current format:

1- Some players have to be prepared against one race only while others dont.
2- Its not a complete Round-Robin
3- You dont have enough games to figure your opponent out, leaving enough room for luck and randomness

This game is not like chess or tennis, because it does have surprise elements, and it should always be at least a BO3.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
January 16 2011 19:10 GMT
#58
I like GSL4 format better. it'll be perfect when they take out all the shit map aka Steppes, DQ ..
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
January 16 2011 20:05 GMT
#59
If it were like MSL group I would vote groups, sadly, it isn't
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
January 16 2011 23:08 GMT
#60
I actually like the group play alot. It's just alot more entertaining imo.
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