There's a difference between a fan and a fanboy. ~~Our~~ realpenguin's image macro of kaboom mvp and fuck yeah zero days are over, since stars no longer need the hype and are legitimate contenders. I'm just being brutally honest. I think zero belongs there, not Soulkey... at least, not yet.

swanized

Canada2480 Posts

November 15 2010 04:15 GMT

#103

On November 15 2010 12:40 bearbuddy wrote:
There's a difference between a fan and a fanboy. ~~Our~~ realpenguin's image macro of kaboom mvp and fuck yeah zero days are over, since stars no longer need the hype and are legitimate contenders. I'm just being brutally honest. I think zero belongs there, not Soulkey... at least, not yet.

Woongjin ALWAYS will need hype...

seriously I do get your point but considering how beastly soulkey has been and that PR is back after 2 months of off-season he belongs there in my opinion

Hyde

Australia14568 Posts

November 15 2010 04:16 GMT

#104

I didn't particularly like the Bleach references (I stopped reading/watching Bleach a long time though), but none the less it's not a bad PR, how could I complain anyway when Bisu is back at number three (F yeah!). I missed the days when there was Flash, JD and Bisu at the top.

On November 14 2010 10:57 conroe wrote:
Seriously, when snow makes #6 and Best isn't even on the PR at all, I know for a fact now that flamewheel is a big loonie

Unfortunately Best didn't even make any of the individual leagues

Oozo

Finland432 Posts

November 15 2010 05:58 GMT

#105

On November 15 2010 13:16 Hyde wrote:

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Unfortunately Best didn't even make any of the individual leagues

Well, considering how Best did dismantle Flash, and seeing how badly Snow did last matchup against Flash, its bogglin. Best should be much higher, or Snow just should be lower... but Biased PR is Biased.

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]343[

United States10328 Posts

November 15 2010 06:41 GMT

#106

On November 15 2010 14:58 Jienny wrote:

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lol I still don't see how it's biased when best doesn't make it out of offlines in either league? 1 good win vs a top player is nice, but if you can't beat bad players (in Bo3 series no less) you shouldn't be on PR.

ArvickHero

10387 Posts

November 15 2010 08:40 GMT

#107

On November 14 2010 02:53 Musoeun wrote:
Quick stats I pulled up. The following players (top 60 active ELO) are at their ELO peaks right now:

(Z)

Neo.G_Soulkey (#4 PR)
(P)

Snow (#6 PR)
Hydra (not even CNBC)
(T)

TurN (no peak yet, CNBC)

Why no love for (Z)

Hydra?

Hydra has the mysterious power to make his opponents play freakin horrible, so he doesn't really deserve his wins

joking

haha

Holgerius

Sweden16951 Posts

November 15 2010 09:19 GMT

#108

On November 15 2010 14:58 Jienny wrote:

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You can never use the ''Player A beat player B who then proceeded to beat player C, which means that player A is better than player C''-logic only, or else you could come up with some absolutely retarded results. There are so many more variables to consider.

Oozo

Finland432 Posts

November 15 2010 09:52 GMT

#109

On November 15 2010 18:19 Holgerius wrote:

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Yes, Variants like performance in those matchups... If Best would won every game with close call plays or looking like really unsure, then I would not have mentioned it at all. Arguments like But he lost at premiliars to sucky players vs He dominated proleague matchups with record of 8-2 is somewhat close call. Thats also btw: "he lost to A and B so he must be C" argument.

Its all about how to market those matches of players. Looking at the match list, I can't really see any notable wins from Snow(Neo.G_Soulkey is 1-1 so its hard to count as win when you lose him after 4 days, Fantasy was slump badly when he beated him, Great?), but I can deffinetly name few from Best(Stork, Free and Flash).

corumjhaelen

France6884 Posts

November 15 2010 14:40 GMT

#110

oops, bad reading skill, will update later.

Huragius

Lithuania1506 Posts

November 15 2010 15:59 GMT

#111

On November 13 2010 05:47 Mascherano wrote:
Bisu is going for your spot Flash, you better watch out kid.

Let them come ! Flash hungers !...

hypercube

Hungary2735 Posts

November 15 2010 16:40 GMT

#112

The few games I've seen from Best were great. He played perfect against Flash, played perfect against free when it mattered (and then started dicking around) and looked a class above Sea despite his loss. If he played that well in his other games he deserves number 4 at least.

Then again, if he played that well there's no way he would have got knocked out of the individual leagues.

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

November 16 2010 00:10 GMT

#113

Sorted by "how many players on the PR they would likely beat in a BoX"

1. (T)

Flash
2.

Jaedong
3. (T)

Fantasy
4. (P)

Kal (beat

Bisu in a Bo3 twice)
5. (P)

Bisu
6.

ZerO/

Sea/

Stork (all around the same level right now)
9. (P)

Snow
10.

Neo.G_Soulkey (shouldn't be 4 when he would likely lose to any of these in a BoX)

Crunchums

United States11143 Posts

November 16 2010 00:28 GMT

#114

In OSL, he demolishes hero and then Action

what a missed opportunity ;_;

Slow Motion

United States6960 Posts

November 16 2010 01:10 GMT

#115

I always think it's hard to do a very accurate power rank unless you're in the middle of proleague, MSL, and OSL. There are so many unknowns and questions about how a player will hold up. I think this is a decent try considering the lack of data points aside from proleague and preliminaries.

Scarecrow

Korea (South)9172 Posts

November 16 2010 02:02 GMT

#116

Soulkey is too high and Zero is too low, other than that looks good.