EPTPower Rank 05/31/2010 - Page 25
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 24 2010 03:34 Cpadolf wrote: elo is just a measure of strekyness. Jaedong hasn't lost anything recently outside of being 3-0'd whereas Flash just went on a 10 game 50% streak.Yeah what was that like, one and a half months ago  Shit goes down fast in Starcraft! | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:21 Plexa wrote: elo is just a measure of strekyness. Jaedong hasn't lost anything recently outside of being 3-0'd whereas Flash just went on a 10 game 50% streak. 52% over 21 games, but yeah. It's just as much a measure of consistency though. You don't ever need to get a long streak to get a really high ELO, you just need an extended period of consistently good results. Before April Flash got to 2430 or something along those lines without ever getting more than 7 wins in a row outside of his initial 10 game streak in October. | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On June 24 2010 04:58 Warrior Madness wrote: Also, watching both MSL finals, I also don't think that JD can beat flash in a standard macro game where they are roughly economically even in the beginning. all I can say is.. DUH?! flash is Terran zerg is never going to win with equal economic footing :/ | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On June 24 2010 16:46 danl9rm wrote: all I can say is.. DUH?! flash is Terran zerg is never going to win with equal economic footing :/ Hahaha, yeah. There's a reason 12 hatch is standard versus Terran. | ||
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Paddington
Australia254 Posts
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On June 24 2010 19:02 Paddington wrote: Bisu should be on PR/CBNC if he makes it out of his OSL group IMO. Strange month, could argue that neither Dong nor Flash deserve no1. I'm having trouble seeing from your point of view | ||
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vaMpYr
France119 Posts
On June 24 2010 16:46 danl9rm wrote: all I can say is.. DUH?! flash is Terran zerg is never going to win with equal economic footing :/ and again , flash overrated and JD underrated . like always and always . jaedong is one of the scariest monster of late game in all SC history . rewatch games like vs midas on triathlon , vs forGG on medusa or vs flash on rush hour maybe ? dont tell me jaedong cant win flash on late macro game , that just make me want to kill you all . and stop saying Zergs cant win terrans on big macro games . thats just craps and craps . want zergs who crush terrans on big late games ? gorush , savior , jaedong , great , effort and zero . flash is NOT invincible , and he is NOT making tvz harder for Zergs , he is NOT revolutioning ANYTHING . he is just some monster skilled kid , NOTHING MORE . terrans who are helping a lot the terran evolution this times ? midas , nada , leta , fantasy ( boxer and oov ) DONT TALK OF FLASH AS IF HE WAS SOME GENIUS THING . User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
Flash IS a genius, he has best televised streaks of wins vs protoss, zergs (oov is just similiar) and terrans and it couldn't be done without word genius, and if You talk about revolutionizing You could tell the same thing about Bisu and fantasy if You trolled in Your heart really hard.. lol. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Flash is the ULTIMATE WEAPON!! | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7230 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On June 24 2010 22:28 NovaTheFeared wrote: I think the thing that will keep Flash at the top in next month's power rank is the fact that KT has such a lead in PL that his choking hard this month won't hurt them. thats what im thinking. | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
It's just a matter of time before Flash reinvents his TvT, though. He's gone through way tougher stretches than this and every single time in the past one of his matchups looked weak, a month or two later he was unstoppable at it. | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On June 24 2010 23:36 Tianx wrote: It's not really choking if the games don't matter Most of them did matter though. He is just lucky that STX slumped recently, otherwise they would probably be #1 by now. Not that I would necessarily say choking is the reason for his losses. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On June 24 2010 04:58 Warrior Madness wrote: Also, watching both MSL finals, I also don't think that JD can beat flash in a standard macro game where they are roughly economically even in the beginning. 14CC is far ahead economically hence the need to punish it. Only 3hatch before pool matches it in eco, which he did do one game and lost although I think that particular one could have gone either way. We saw in the previous MSL that on an even level with 3 hatch before pool he did manage to beat him. Also about Flash losing games that don't matter, when did that ever come into it with the power rank? You can tell by the games Flash is hardly holding back because of the league situation, it's irrelevant to the individual performance. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On June 25 2010 00:04 Cpadolf wrote: Most of them did matter though. He is just lucky that STX slumped recently, otherwise they would probably be #1 by now. Not that I would necessarily say choking is the reason for his losses. I agree, most of his losses weren't caused by choking. He was being beaten straight up in late game TvT. A predicament caused by, to his own admission, a lack of practice. As for his recent game versus Really, well that's another story... | ||
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Paddington
Australia254 Posts
On June 24 2010 19:21 danl9rm wrote: I'm having trouble seeing from your point of view Summing up what I've observed and what I've been reading in this topic: 1st Point of View: Flash was in 2 Finals last month, won 1, lost won. Beat Dong 3-0, but has been playing poorly this month, going ~50% and losing horribly in Ace matches. One could argue that, based on current performance, does not deserve to be #1. 2nd Point of View: Dong has been on a hotstreak in PL, and in all non-Flash related games. However, got walloped 3-0 in a SL final, and therefore loses his legitimacy to #1, due to losing a bo5 convincingly, recently (although not in the concurrent month) to his strongest rival. Depends on the point of view for the argument presented: Do you consider outside the timeframe presented, or do you exclusively consider the shortest possible timeframe (1 month) for the current PR? For the record, and this is complete conjecture on my part, if Dong hadn't lost 3-0, there wouldn't be a serious problem crowning him #1 for the upcoming month. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 25 2010 00:20 J1.au wrote: I agree, most of his losses weren't caused by choking. He was being beaten straight up in late game TvT. A predicament caused by, to his own admission, a lack of practice. As for his recent game versus Really, well that's another story... You can hardly blame the loss vs Skyhigh as a lack of practice too. Skyhigh even had to prepare for two maps in that game. Flash was able to solely concentrate on the ace match. | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
On June 25 2010 00:19 infinity2k9 wrote: Also about Flash losing games that don't matter, when did that ever come into it with the power rank? You can tell by the games Flash is hardly holding back because of the league situation, it's irrelevant to the individual performance. Of course how important the games are matter. If you go 2-6 in proleague but dominate both a starleague's final and semifinal 6-0, you look waaaaaay better than someone who goes 8-0 in proleague, barely scrapes into the final, and then gets dominated in a final 3-0 even though your record is strictly 'better.' This is of course ignoring play quality in the games itself, which is by far the most important factor. On June 24 2010 19:02 Paddington wrote: Flash... has been playing poorly this month, going ~50% and losing horribly in Ace matches. One could argue that, based on current performance, does not deserve to be #1. Flash isn't "losing horribly." His 50% record in the last two weeks is ass, but his play is anything but. People have figured him out and he's no longer invincible, but that doesn't mean he's a worse player than he was before. It just means his play needs refreshing. | ||
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InFdude
Bulgaria619 Posts
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