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DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland236 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 12:02:25
June 25 2010 12:00 GMT
#521
It would be silly not to consider how will exact player play next month too
EX CATHEDRA!
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
June 25 2010 12:35 GMT
#522
BISU BISU BISU
Thelarva
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark8 Posts
June 25 2010 13:41 GMT
#523
WHERE IS ME??? PURE LIES I SHULD ATLEAST BE RANK 1 2 AND 3

User was warned for this post
Painispower!
Thelarva
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark8 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 13:43:05
June 25 2010 13:42 GMT
#524
Ohhhh they ar korean. Nvm
Painispower!
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 14:55:02
June 25 2010 14:54 GMT
#525
Bisu is back bitches!!!! The revolutionist will win dual finals this time.

Oh wait, I am supposed to hate Bisu.

I'm glad he's back. He better be on the Powerrank this month. Or Plexa will drown in fanboy tears. And I must say drowning in tears is not very pleasant.
WWJDD??
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
June 25 2010 20:21 GMT
#526
On June 25 2010 20:04 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 19:21 danl9rm wrote:
On June 25 2010 17:35 SimonB wrote:
Oh man, back to the "only this month counts!" argument. Why is KT sending him? I don't know, because he has nothing better to do, and they probably keep him in form and let him have a shot at his 60-win goal.

If power ranking was about who had the best month, they would award it for that month at the end, not post a new one in the following. It's a ranking released monthly, and a little bad streak for Flash in the lull between starleagues and meaningful proleague games isn't enough for Jaedong to overcome probably the best 6 months anybody has ever had (with the possible exception of Nada).


not "only this month counts!" but, the current month has always, in the past, counted the most. why this is changing nowadays is beyond me.

and anyway, i'm not so sure it is. i want to see july's power rank before i say anything much.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. When deciding on where players go I always consider the current month and value those results the most. When I'm stuck with a tough decision between two players I look at what they did the previous month as well.


Sorry Plexa, if there was a beta to play you probably wouldn't be receiving so much harassment!
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 21:49:10
June 25 2010 21:39 GMT
#527
Naturally, all other things being the same, the most recent results should weigh the most.

I just don't think the difference between a 11-1 month (half of which were against prelim scrubs) versus a 5-5 month is enough to offset the crazy ridiculous amazing results Flash has had just prior to June including another double finals and a thorough 3-0 asskicking he gave JD less than one month ago. (Just reminding everybody, that match was on May 29th. We're less than four weeks past it.)

Hoping to see the return of Bisu to Power Rank...
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 21:45:04
June 25 2010 21:43 GMT
#528
Last two months:

Flash: 23-11
JD: 24-5

Flash already had his benefit of doubt. JD has been playing monstrous lately.

Let's go even another month back.
Flash: 39-14
JD: 33-10

Jaedong fully deserves #1 this month for his performance of the last THREE months.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
June 25 2010 21:46 GMT
#529
On June 26 2010 06:43 SuperArc wrote:
Last two months:

Flash: 23-11
JD: 24-5

Flash already had his benefit of doubt. JD has been playing monstrous lately.

Where has he had the benefit of the doubt. Just last month, he was considered the undisputed, unequaled greatest player on earth without even a close rival.

This month, he goes on a minor bad streak in meaningless games (Oh NO! .500 winning percentage), and you want to kick him off.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 25 2010 22:55 GMT
#530
On June 26 2010 06:46 SimonB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2010 06:43 SuperArc wrote:
Last two months:

Flash: 23-11
JD: 24-5

Flash already had his benefit of doubt. JD has been playing monstrous lately.

Where has he had the benefit of the doubt. Just last month, he was considered the undisputed, unequaled greatest player on earth without even a close rival.

This month, he goes on a minor bad streak in meaningless games (Oh NO! .500 winning percentage), and you want to kick him off.

That was enough to drop Jaedong -_-
GANDHISAUCE
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 25 2010 23:12 GMT
#531
On June 26 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              26 2010 06      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:46 SimonB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2010 06:43 SuperArc wrote:
Last two months:

Flash: 23-11
JD: 24-5

Flash already had his benefit of doubt. JD has been playing monstrous lately.

Where has he had the benefit of the doubt. Just last month, he was considered the undisputed, unequaled greatest player on earth without even a close rival.

This month, he goes on a minor bad streak in meaningless games (Oh NO! .500 winning percentage), and you want to kick him off.

note: rolster icon.

Meaningless games? If losing 7 proleague ace matches in a row is meaningless I'm Mickey Mouse, that's about as meaningful as it gets.

Jaedong was dropped to #3 after going 13-4.

You've got to be kidding me if you're saying that's your objective analysis.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
June 25 2010 23:37 GMT
#532
On June 26 2010 06:43 SuperArc wrote:
Last two months:

Flash: 23-11
JD: 24-5

Flash already had his benefit of doubt. JD has been playing monstrous lately.

Let's go even another month back.
Flash: 39-14
JD: 33-10


Jaedong fully deserves #1 this month for his performance of the last THREE months.


Terrible comparison because if you look at just the previous month
Flash: 16-3
JD: 9-5
(Using your own numbers)
Hi.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
June 25 2010 23:43 GMT
#533
On June 26 2010 06:46 SimonB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2010 06:43 SuperArc wrote:
Last two months:

Flash: 23-11
JD: 24-5

Flash already had his benefit of doubt. JD has been playing monstrous lately.

Where has he had the benefit of the doubt. Just last month, he was considered the undisputed, unequaled greatest player on earth without even a close rival.

This month, he goes on a minor bad streak in meaningless games (Oh NO! .500 winning percentage), and you want to kick him off.


Flash was not even considered the favorite to win the MSL; Jaedong was. And Flash lost to effort a week before that. For people so "undisputed, unequaled" he sure has looked incredibly mediocre lately going 5-5 in his last 10 games and losing the last 6 ace matches in a row. If STX did not pick this time to do horrible in PL, KT would no longer even be the #1 seed, which is pretty meaningful. You just do not drop that many games because of bad luck.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
June 26 2010 00:02 GMT
#534
Just for a change a pace, how far do you think Effort should drop? Personally, I'd like to see him cnbc'd. No doubt he's good but he's been too streaky for too long to get any benefit of the doubt and his only decent win is against kwanro
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
June 26 2010 00:18 GMT
#535
On June 26 2010 08:43 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2010 06:46 SimonB wrote:
On June 26 2010 06:43 SuperArc wrote:
Last two months:

Flash: 23-11
JD: 24-5

Flash already had his benefit of doubt. JD has been playing monstrous lately.

Where has he had the benefit of the doubt. Just last month, he was considered the undisputed, unequaled greatest player on earth without even a close rival.

This month, he goes on a minor bad streak in meaningless games (Oh NO! .500 winning percentage), and you want to kick him off.


Flash was not even considered the favorite to win the MSL; Jaedong was.


Really? Because I could have sworn there was a lot of talk from the Korean community that for the first time Flash was entering a bo5 against Jaedong not as the underdog.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 26 2010 00:48 GMT
#536
On June 26 2010 09:02 n.DieJokes wrote:
Just for a change a pace, how far do you think Effort should drop? Personally, I'd like to see him cnbc'd. No doubt he's good but he's been too streaky for too long to get any benefit of the doubt and his only decent win is against kwanro


He shouldn't even be CBNC. Terrible play this month, shouldn't even matter that he was the (fluky) OSL winner.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
June 26 2010 01:08 GMT
#537
Flash clearly has a problem, but I'm confident he'll manage it. I think the main problem is his TvT, a bit like when Jaedong started to have problem with his ZvZ, everyone catching up with him. Look where we are today... He'll just have to rework it, I guess he was overconfident for too long.
As for the ranking, I guess Jaedong should be number one... But I'm positive Flash is the favorite against anyone in a BO5. Those are two different things KT fans :p
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 26 2010 01:41 GMT
#538
On June 26 2010 08:37 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2010 06:43 SuperArc wrote:
Last two months:

Flash: 23-11
JD: 24-5

Flash already had his benefit of doubt. JD has been playing monstrous lately.

Let's go even another month back.
Flash: 39-14
JD: 33-10


Jaedong fully deserves #1 this month for his performance of the last THREE months.


Terrible comparison because if you look at just the previous month
Flash: 16-3
JD: 9-5
(Using your own numbers)


Which means that even WITH the great record Flash had in April, Jaedong still has a greater win percentage because of his RECENT performance. You need to take it back to March to give Flash the higher win percentage again.
darkness overpowering
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
June 26 2010 02:01 GMT
#539
On June 26 2010 09:18 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2010 08:43 setzer wrote:
On June 26 2010 06:46 SimonB wrote:
On June 26 2010 06:43 SuperArc wrote:
Last two months:

Flash: 23-11
JD: 24-5

Flash already had his benefit of doubt. JD has been playing monstrous lately.

Where has he had the benefit of the doubt. Just last month, he was considered the undisputed, unequaled greatest player on earth without even a close rival.

This month, he goes on a minor bad streak in meaningless games (Oh NO! .500 winning percentage), and you want to kick him off.


Flash was not even considered the favorite to win the MSL; Jaedong was.


Really? Because I could have sworn there was a lot of talk from the Korean community that for the first time Flash was entering a bo5 against Jaedong not as the underdog.


Everyone thought Flash would win Nate MSL, it was completely different for last season.
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
June 26 2010 05:35 GMT
#540
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