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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Plexa I had a dream that you went against what you told me and put Jaedong at one.
Clearly I am to be prophetic, yes?
Also nice post roommate, though I'd think great would be above Stork this time around since they've both been playing well in SPL (great with the Ace advantage) with comparable amounts of not-win in individual leagues.
Hyuk should be there, after a strong R4 finish and good individual league performance this time around.
You also forgot that Sea got the wildcard for the night group!
I still don't think Stats should make it :3
But maybe that's because I like disagreeing with you.
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United States10328 Posts
On June 23 2010 04:55 flamewheel wrote:
You also forgot that Sea got the wildcard for the night group!
false. I included it in the 6-1 vP thingy.
On June 23 2010 04:55 flamewheel wrote:
I still don't think Stats should make it :3
But maybe that's because I like disagreeing with you.
what ok
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Still a bit of time left in the month, but I can't help but guess so far:
1)  Jaedong
2)  Flash
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3) Fantasy
4) Sea
5)  Snow
6) free
7) EffOrt
8) BaBy
9-10) two of Stork / Stats / Light / great / sKyHigh - can't decide! other 3 take the CBNC (Bisu needs more games before he can even get that)
My bias against Hyuk makes me leave him out, heh.
Not sure about putting EffOrt so low, but he I felt that the 6 above him had better individual league standings and pro league performance. He can't ride his OSL victory and past SPL performance into this month's top 5, imo.
Stork could easily fizzle out of the Ro36 in the MSL next month, so putting him here may be a risk. But when he won it was usually impressive to watch. Great might get the edge on Stork. Light is a pain to watch sometimes, so he might not deserve it. Stats... he's just playing with enough power to make the list - but we'll see. Skyhigh lost to Bisu - what to make of this? Time will tell on the latter's performance.
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Anyone still want to make a case for Flash over Jaedong?
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Yeah, if Jaedong doesn't lose a game during the next week, I don't think Flash #1 is justifiable.
Damn, I did not see this coming. Flashs tvt did not even look good in the ace match. He was completely shaken up, although having a BO-advantage.
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It is not unfathomable to think Flash could drop to #3 with the way Fantasy and Snow are playing if he keeps this up.
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1. jaedong
2. not flash
3 .snow or flash
4. sea
5. hiya or fantasy
6. hiya or fantasy
7. great
8. free or flying
9. free or flying
10. hyuk or s2
and really should be somewhere between 7 and 10 i think ..
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On June 22 2010 10:25 DracoVolantus wrote:
short quiz:
player that can can win games only with scouting and proper macroing :>
Sounds a lot like an in-form BeSt, actually. Didn't even care what you were building, just macro. There was a LR featuring him in a PvT that basically went "Best, you can't break a tank line like that by attacking into it.. wait, apparently he can wtf?". Dude wins some games entirely by bashing his head into his opponent until he caves.
That said, Flash is really not playing well as of late.. he's losing a LOT of TvTs. While he's doing so, Jaedong is on an absolute tear in PL - unless something changes, I don't see Flash as deserving of the #1 spot in a month where he's yet to win an ace match.
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One more loss for Flash and one more win for Jaedong and the #1 ELO spot will change hands. Only 6 points seperate the two now, and Flash is struggling while Jaedong is trending up.
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wtf is with all the baby hate all of a sudden
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Sigh, goodbye Flash at #1. It was nice while it lasted. Sad slumps.
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i think the shlump became slump
on his strongest match up ,,,,, there will be people that will say those are irrelevant games since kt is already 1st but this is pushing the limits
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Funny thing is Flash is still above 70% in all matchups since it's only the TvT's that are troublesome right now and he had something like 73% in that matchup.
I'm pretty sure Flash would have won most opponents Jaedong faced, but that's just theorycrafting.
Since I haven't been able to watch the games lately I can't really take part in the discussion though.
Jaedong is making a run for the nr1 spot for sure.
But don't hate on flash too much, this is just one troublesome matchup and somehow only in the acematches, I'm sure he'll fix it soon.
Edit: Does anyone know how many wins Flash have in PL so far? Coz if it's close to 60 now maybe the record is jinxed, or maybe he's watching too much soccer haha.
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i hope people will have realized by now that effort is a bad player who just got lucky for a few weeks
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On June 23 2010 18:04 StylishVODs wrote:
Funny thing is Flash is still above 70% in all matchups since it's only the TvT's that are troublesome right now and he had something like 73% in that matchup.
I'm pretty sure Flash would have won most opponents Jaedong faced, but that's just theorycrafting.
Since I haven't been able to watch the games lately I can't really take part in the discussion though.
Jaedong is making a run for the nr1 spot for sure.
But don't hate on flash too much, this is just one troublesome matchup and somehow only in the acematches, I'm sure he'll fix it soon.
Edit: Does anyone know how many wins Flash have in PL so far? Coz if it's close to 60 now maybe the record is jinxed, or maybe he's watching too much soccer haha.
He is at 56 wins now.
Your theorycrafting can also be done the other way around: I'm pretty sure Jaedong would not have lost all those games Flash lost 
The case right now would however be that Flash lost his spot more than Jaedong earned it. Besides the fact that JD is not losing (which of course is impressive in itself) he has not done anything spectacular to overtake Flash.
Regarding the games, Flash has played quite good in some of his losses. But yesterday against Really he simply played bad (although winning the first game convincingly), you could see his confidence was tackled.
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When Flash first took #1 on the PR during this monster run, it was when he dominated in PL and and basically went undefeated through all the individual league groups (qualifying for OSL ro16 and MSL ro32 in the same month), while Jaedong suffered a psuedo slump in proleague despite being a reigning champ.
Short of some weird revival within the next week, I'd be disappointed if Flash took #1. You don't literally lose 6 games for your team in your "best" matchup and expect to be called #1.
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Fenrax
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On June 23 2010 22:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
When Flash first took #1 on the PR during this monster run, it was when he dominated in PL and and basically went undefeated through all the individual league groups (qualifying for OSL ro16 and MSL ro32 in the same month), while Jaedong suffered a psuedo slump in proleague despite being a reigning champ.
Short of some weird revival within the next week, I'd be disappointed if Flash took #1. You don't literally lose 6 games for your team in your "best" matchup and expect to be called #1.
Respect.
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Alright Flash. That's enough!! I've loved this entire month of fanbois tears. Sweet sweet fanbois tears, but this is getting ridiculous.
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On June 23 2010 21:53 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 18:04 StylishVODs wrote:
Funny thing is Flash is still above 70% in all matchups since it's only the TvT's that are troublesome right now and he had something like 73% in that matchup.
I'm pretty sure Flash would have won most opponents Jaedong faced, but that's just theorycrafting.
Since I haven't been able to watch the games lately I can't really take part in the discussion though.
Jaedong is making a run for the nr1 spot for sure.
But don't hate on flash too much, this is just one troublesome matchup and somehow only in the acematches, I'm sure he'll fix it soon.
Edit: Does anyone know how many wins Flash have in PL so far? Coz if it's close to 60 now maybe the record is jinxed, or maybe he's watching too much soccer haha.
He is at 56 wins now.
59 actually. (37 + 22 from WL).
Also interesting to note, Jaedong now has a better winning percentage than Flash for PL 09-10 regular season, and both of them are actually worse than Bisu last season.
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