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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 20 2010 11:22 GMT
#401
Winstreak record? He's played like what, 5 games since he got 3-0'd by Flash?
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InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
June 20 2010 11:35 GMT
#402
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Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
June 20 2010 11:52 GMT
#403
On June 20 2010 20:22 Holgerius wrote:
Winstreak record? He's played like what, 5 games since he got 3-0'd by Flash?


PL winstreak, they mentioned it in his winners interview.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
June 20 2010 14:43 GMT
#404
JD is 19-1 in his last 20 non-Flash games. One has to wonder how many more wins he would have if OZ had a consistent second player to force ace matches.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
June 20 2010 15:00 GMT
#405
On June 20 2010 19:58 adelarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2010 16:38 qrs wrote:
On June 19 2010 17:06 adelarge wrote:
Am I missing something here? What exactly did Jaedong do this month to put him ahead of Flash?

The OSL prelims? Are you serious? You can't hold against Flash that he is so good he (unlike Jaedong) doesn't have to play them.

Performance in PL? He has the exact same amount of wins like Flash. Yeah, Flash lost many ace games, but guess what, JD even didn't get to play them. Even if I take only this month and nothing else into account, Jaedong isn't doing better than Flash, he is just not doing worse.
Guess what, ace games are games like any other. Flash has lost around half of his recent games; Jaedong has won them all. Hard to see how you can call that "not doing better".


It's actually pretty easy to see. At the time when I wrote that Flash won every normal match and lost ace matches. JD won every normal match and didn't play any ace match. JD had the exact same number of wins like Flash in PL. For what we know, he could've lost all the ace matches as well. And the only time JD has the chance to play in ace, he dodged direct confrontation with Flash (ok, I don't believe he actually was afraid to play Flash, but his coach certainly wasn't confident in sending him).

Now JD is up one game, that's true.

It's just retarded to look at number of wins and not number of losses. If Jaedong had played as many ace matches as Flash and lost them all then he would have had the same record as Flash. But there's no reason to think he would have lost them all.
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Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
June 20 2010 15:01 GMT
#406
For everyone saying "Flash is only winning the games that don't matter and losing the ones that do," take note: Flash hasn't lost a game that actually mattered since the MSL finals. While a lot of teams are approaching the most crucial stage of proleague, KT is not one of those teams. In fact, attending proleague matches is just a formality for Flash - KT could play like ACE for the rest of the season and still waltz into the grand finals. With that in mind, the 'oh Flash is choking when it counts so Jaedong should be above him' argument looks even sillier than if we just look at the recent MSL finals 3-0ing of the tyrant himself.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 20 2010 15:57 GMT
#407
Argh Plexa!
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 20 2010 16:26 GMT
#408
This is probably the best thing for Flash since it will keep him focused on improving significantly which is only great since they'll be seeded to Proleague finals and he won't have many games after the season ends since he's seeded far in both leagues.

Regardless he's only really losing epic games so he doesn't have that far to go to start winning a lot again.
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CraftyStars
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada47 Posts
June 20 2010 17:50 GMT
#409
Here's hoping that Jaedong can recover his "magic spark." Maybe Effort took it. All-in-all this was a great month for being a spectator.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
June 20 2010 19:09 GMT
#410
On June 21 2010 00:01 Tianx wrote:
For everyone saying "Flash is only winning the games that don't matter and losing the ones that do," take note: Flash hasn't lost a game that actually mattered since the MSL finals. While a lot of teams are approaching the most crucial stage of proleague, KT is not one of those teams. In fact, attending proleague matches is just a formality for Flash - KT could play like ACE for the rest of the season and still waltz into the grand finals. With that in mind, the 'oh Flash is choking when it counts so Jaedong should be above him' argument looks even sillier than if we just look at the recent MSL finals 3-0ing of the tyrant himself.


lol, thats becuase has hasnt actually had any games that "mattered" at all. unless you count ace matches (which lots of people do). then he lost some.
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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
June 20 2010 20:51 GMT
#411
Flash is still #1 without much doubt, but JD certainly catched up. So far I would put Flash at 1, JD at 2, Effort at 3 and Baby at 4.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 20 2010 21:01 GMT
#412
On June 21 2010 05:51 Fenrax wrote:
Flash is still #1 without much doubt, but JD certainly catched up. So far I would put Flash at 1, JD at 2, Effort at 3 and Baby at 4.

I can see Jaedong getting the #1 spot if he keeps up the performance he's had so far this month.

How can you keep Effort at 3 after losing to Fantasy, Juni, Horang2, and Stats?
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 20 2010 21:52 GMT
#413
Stats is looking pretty good btw. :D He raped Effort Bisu-style today.
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 20 2010 22:26 GMT
#414
Yeah, I agree. Stats has been playing pretty good this month. His only bad loss was to Roro's terribad ZvP.
GANDHISAUCE
Tempest[OEC]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States417 Posts
June 20 2010 22:28 GMT
#415
I cannot agree to keeping effort in the top 5 of the power rank after his performance so far this month. Baby at #3 I can agree with.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-20 22:37:32
June 20 2010 22:32 GMT
#416
Down: (Z)EffOrt, (P)Kal, (P)Shuttle, (T)Midas, (Z)Shine

Up: (P)free, (P)Stork, (Z)great, (T)Sea, (T)sKyHigh

Stats for CBNC at this point I think. He needs to have some more impressive wins in addition to beating Effort. Losing to Roro is pretty bad too since Roro's not as good as he was last month.
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
June 21 2010 08:46 GMT
#417
On June 21 2010 07:32 jalstar wrote:
Down: (Z)EffOrt, (P)Kal, (P)Shuttle, (T)Midas, (Z)Shine

Up: (P)free, (P)Stork, (Z)great, (T)Sea, (T)sKyHigh

Stats for CBNC at this point I think. He needs to have some more impressive wins in addition to beating Effort. Losing to Roro is pretty bad too since Roro's not as good as he was last month.

as much as i love stork i think he failed to qualify to any league + he isnt doing that hot
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
June 21 2010 11:21 GMT
#418
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-21 16:00:48
June 21 2010 15:40 GMT
#419
> Mystery terran #1 is 4-4 this month, and has lost several ace matches in a row. He is qualified into both starleagues as a seed. He's been mentioned at #1 and #2 on this page.
> Mystery terran #2 is 4-3 this month, and was 0-2'd in the MST. He's been mentioned at #3 and #4 on this page.
> Mystery terran #3 is 6-2 this month, qualified for the MSL, and has only lost one proleague game since May 11th, all in his weakest match-up. He's been mentioned once on this page, but only in the context of another player.

Can you identify and rank these three terrans?
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 21 2010 15:53 GMT
#420
On June 22 2010 00:40 tree.hugger wrote:
> Mystery terran #1 is 4-4 this month, and has lost several ace matches in a row. He's been mentioned at #1 and #2 on this page.
> Mystery terran #2 is 4-3 this month, and was 0-2'd in the MST. He's been mentioned at #3 and #4 on this page.
> Mystery terran #3 is 6-2 this month, qualified for the MSL, and has only lost one proleague game since May 11th, all in his weakest match-up. He's been mentioned once on this page, but only in the context of another player.

Can you identify and rank these three terrans?

You forget to mention that mystery terran #1 is already seeded into both starleagues due to reaching both finals just a month ago.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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