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raga4ka
Bulgaria5678 Posts
On March 28 2010 01:22 NurseArial wrote: The problem with LeeSsangRok is that the Flash/JD Bo5 is practically cursed. Both the GOMtv and MSL finals were pretty bad. Yeah , but their first encounter in the MSL was pretty epic  . I can only hope that they will be able to meat in Ro8 or above in the MSL . | ||
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Fx_
503 Posts
On March 28 2010 01:22 NurseArial wrote: The problem with LeeSsangRok is that the Flash/JD Bo5 is practically cursed. Both the GOMtv and MSL finals were pretty bad. Agreed. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On March 24 2010 16:23 Plexa wrote: I like to think I give credit where its due. For instance, even though I put stork above Jaedong in December (because I felt he deserved it), his performance in January was pretty terrible (despite good results, the games were just bad) and he dropped down to 9. Yes I'm very bias when I write or post, but I think the best indication that I try to be impartial as possible on the PR is how low Kwanro is on this rank and how much of a fan of him I am. You're the least biased of the people I mentioned. Fx I doubt you would put *insert random player which you hate* on a low spot despite the player playing really good and getting results. But yeah, Kwanro's has something in him (which + Show Spoiler + 3 killed SKT1 but failed to shine in the lategame vs Light But when talking about Kwanro... Imagine if he learned how to lategame as well as Effort or Zero... Holy hell. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On March 27 2010 06:19 Mogwai wrote: I'd be inclined to agree with you if Rivalries could only be measured by number of games... However, it's quite a stretch to say that LeeSsangRok has nothing on LimJinRok. If nothing else, the level of mechanics on display in Flash-JD games completely blows Yellow-Boxer games out of the water. They're probably comparable for their eras, but just the difference in timeframes makes comparing them and calling one strictly better or worse silly and pointless. Unless you value absolute skill over everything else, LimJinRok was vastly superior. In it's day, the mechanics were top notch, completely akin to Flash/Jaedong games of today. And not only more games, but more games in important stages AND higher relative quality of games. Much more intense back and forth action, much more enjoyable to watch. Most Flash/Jaedong games tend to be really one-sided, with one player gaining an early lead that cascades into a one-side rape. Neither Boxer nor Yellow are even among my top 5 favorite gamers. I'd much rather point to NaDa vs Savior or something like that as a rivalry that really stirs me up, but LimJinRok is simply the biggest and best rivalry in all of e-sports and it simply will not get matched until some other e-sport (maybe SC2) comes along with a bigger rivalry. EDIT: About to eat something, but I came back because I thought of something that would help clarify what I want to say. LimJinRok represented the absolute best of Starcraft of that era in all aspects. Game play, competitiveness, creativeness of strategies, etc. LeeSsanRok represents not only the absolute best of Starcraft today, but the worst of it as well. Therein lies the difference. Maybe if they had enough time to play more big games in more events they could change it to being only the best. But until then? Sorry. LimJinRok pwns it 100-0 with ease. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On March 27 2010 02:33 Mortality wrote: LimJinRok will never be matched and I mean that quite literally -- given SC2 coming out, it would be impossible to match it. Flash and JD have faced each other only 28 times. Boxer and Yellow faced off a whopping 64 times, and to this day the record is fairly even. Granted, the older tournament formats virtually guaranteed that top players would run into each other with much greater relative frequency, but it's ridiculous to think of how many times those two went at it in a semi-finals or finals. LeeSsangRok has absolutely nothing on LimJinRok. I take it back. Your post just got me really carried away with excitement about LeeSsangRok. For me personally, nothing else in the world of Starcraft gives me the shivers like seeing Flash and Jaedong getting ready to play each other. It's that sense that absolutely anything could happen --- it could be the most amazing macro game ever (Loki II, Rush Hour 3), or they could just cheese the hell out of each other. There are no guarantees*. It can end in the blink of an eye and every second is important, because you know that after the game thousands of raging fanboys are going to dissect the match play by play and analyze it from both sides. You know that if it's a BoX series, the outcome of the match determines the winner of the whole tournament. You know that both players have practiced like crazy and come prepared to gamble on risky strategies and mind games. You know that they're going to shake hands and congratulate each other at the end while the live report thread devolves into flaming chaos. They're the world's two best players. It's just ... Starcraft at its finest. *Except that Jaedong will lose if he goes guardians. Blue Storm doesn't count. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
1.  Flash (duh)2.  Jaedong3. Light4.  Stork5. fantasy6. Kal7. Sea8. Leta9. ZerO10. free[gm] | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7751 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
I mean I know that's a cop out but #2 is so inconsequential compared to Flash because the only likely candidates have all been doing mediocre. | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On March 30 2010 06:24 Vasoline73 wrote: Why Jaedong at number 2? Baby...? OSL...? Yeah, because Light is totally in the OSL -_- | ||
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Fumi
529 Posts
On March 30 2010 06:24 Vasoline73 wrote: Why Jaedong at number 2? Baby...? OSL...? Light didn't really live to the expectations, and Jaedong is the current MSL champion and everything, so.. I think he's still #2. Can't think of anyone else. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7751 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:54 RoieTRS wrote: Um... REALLY? He's been dominating everything. Yes let's put a guy who didn't even come close to making either league (didn't even make it to the last round of MST or "ODT") at #2 | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:54 RoieTRS wrote: Um... REALLY? He's been dominating everything. how were your 2 months under that rock? Really | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On March 31 2010 05:46 darktreb wrote: Yes let's put a guy who didn't even come close to making either league (didn't even make it to the last round of MST or "ODT") at #2 And is 2-8 in his last 10 games. And hasn't won a single game this month...! | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:54 RoieTRS wrote: Um... REALLY? He's been dominating everything. So have you been gone for 2 months ooooor...? | ||
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NurseArial
Belarus109 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:54 RoieTRS wrote: Um... REALLY? He's been dominating everything. No he hasn't. His games against 815 were maybe the worst TvZ's I've ever seen from a progamer of his caliber. I believe Really has the potential to make it up to #2 but he's slipped back into mediocrity. Jaedong deserves the second position. He's played impressively recently and lost to BaBy arguably because of a fluke. Light should take #3. | ||
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[Azn]Nada
United States275 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:54 RoieTRS wrote: Um... REALLY? He's been dominating everything. Lol probably trolling the lights outta everyone. Yea Light's probably going to be rising up, but Jaedong definitely still at #2. Like the Power Outage thing; Flash/JD = Miles ahead of everyone else. (even if JD is changing miles to kilometers) | ||
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