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On June 30 2009 02:19 wtfhi2u wrote:
Pirates are going to have a pirated version anyway, with pirated servers, as it always happens. And for every server you "legally" take down, two will pop up in countries where you have no legal ground.
You make it sound as though it's a clear-cut choice between PIRATES and NOPIRATES. There are several points in between, many of which would be more ideal for a developer. For example, I have a number of friends who, as far as I know, do not buy PC games, ever. However, while they are entirely capable at pirating when it involves simple procedures (copy/paste a crack/cdkey), they do not have the slightest clue about how to find and get a private server to work.
Of course, the most tenacious of pirates will still pirate (as is the rule, by now), but these measures will limit the number of 'casual' (there's probably a better word for it that my brain is running blanks for) piraters.
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Not to beat a dead horse about LAN, but what Nony said echoes through my own thoughts in that if you wanna LAN its not like everyone doesn't have internet to go on bnet anyway. While granted SC's bnet is shit compared to wc3, it still does the job sufficiently, and b.net2.0 sounds like it'll be even better.
Secondly as far as tournaments go, WoW does not have an offline mode, it has tournament servers that blizzard hosts so for events like MLG they're done all online. Even for smaller LANs everyone I've ever gone to except one I think had internet because yeah its a pretty big deal. So with that being said if it has LAN, great, cool. If it doesn't it really is a very minor point that really just the people who don't wanna buy the game are fussing over. It won't affect anything, but piracy really. Blizzard's the one company I won't do that with =x
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StarCraft is a RTS not an MMORPG so thats why it should be lan playable
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As long as b.net 2.0 is great with good features and layout with a virtual lan set up or w.e blizz has cooking a low lat set up i'll be happy with no lan.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
[14:36] Chill[Esports]> the letters L A N arent in ESPORTS
[14:36] Kennigit> LOL
[14:36] Chill[Esports]> so i think were good to go
[14:36] pachi> uhoh
[14:36] Kennigit> hahahaah
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I look over this tech tree and I really wonder to myself what on earth Zerg could possibly do for air-air.
With mutalisks being worse than in Sc2 I just don't see it... not to mention that they have to be pretty bad late game given the lack of extra tools zerg have.
Good early game is good though. A good start.
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On June 30 2009 03:45 ronaldmcdonald wrote:
Wow, so-called community representatives supporting removal of user friendly features in the name of what? Fighting piracy? (lol) Helping Blizzard get its money from the esports scene?
Get yourselves checked.
Nobody is in favor of removing LAN, if that is what you are saying
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On June 30 2009 03:45 ronaldmcdonald wrote:
Wow, so-called community representatives supporting removal of user friendly features in the name of what? Fighting piracy? (lol) Helping Blizzard get its money from the esports scene?
Get yourselves checked.
All you're going on is one sentence. We don't know anything really about Bnet 2.0 yet, so wait until they announce that and THEN complain. Your complaints don't mean much right now.
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On June 30 2009 03:45 Jayme wrote:
I look over this tech tree and I really wonder to myself what on earth Zerg could possibly do for air-air.
With mutalisks being worse than in Sc2 I just don't see it... not to mention that they have to be pretty bad late game given the lack of extra tools zerg have.
Good early game is good though. A good start.
LR just said a page or two ago that Corruptors are great air-air.
Edit: Sorry, it was more like three pages ago. Thread move fast now
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On June 30 2009 03:49 ronaldmcdonald wrote:
Supporting Blizzard's decision or "shhh wait for bnet 2.0" = in favor of removing LAN as far as I'm concerned.
They wouldn't say no LAN if multiplayer wasn't going to require an internet connection.
I don't see how this helps the community at all, regardless of your stance on piracy.
Why did you re-register to continue trolling?
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so is it over? I thought theres gonna be some more interviews/more info released later today or tomorrow
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On June 30 2009 04:03 grimace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 03:53 theqat wrote:On June 30 2009 03:49 ronaldmcdonald wrote:
Supporting Blizzard's decision or "shhh wait for bnet 2.0" = in favor of removing LAN as far as I'm concerned.
They wouldn't say no LAN if multiplayer wasn't going to require an internet connection.
I don't see how this helps the community at all, regardless of your stance on piracy. Why did you re-register to continue trolling? Oh noes I am unhappy with the removal of a standard RTS feature so Blizzard can control/monitor the esports scene and "fight piracy" (rofl) so I must be trolling. Again, this decision doesn't help the community at all, regardless of your stance on piracy. The fact that mods obviously don't want too much critiscism makes me question their level of care for the community. I would hope they are "gamers" before teenage Blizzard fanboys, tbh.
None of that is relevant. What is relevant is that no one can speak in a fully-informed way about the decision to omit LAN until we find out what is in bnet2. It's not that the mods don't want criticism--it's that your gimmick amounts to shouting others down because others are basically advocating patience and thus have no recourse in the face of your apparent fury.
You can be furious, but you don't need to take it out on other posters here.
Edit: Naturally, I don't want to put words in the moderators' mouths. I'm just making an educated guess.
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Ohh Blizzard, you never cease to amaze me, you did it with splitting starcraft into 3 seperate games and now you are doing it with "no LAN"; free marketing is awesome =)
Shine on you crazy diamonds.
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On June 30 2009 04:09 Kletus wrote:
Ohh Blizzard, you never cease to amaze me, you did it with splitting starcraft into 3 seperate games and now you are doing it with "no LAN"; free marketing is awesome =)
Shine on you crazy diamonds.
splitting the game was awesome.. whats wrong with that
lan.. not so much
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On June 30 2009 04:03 grimace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 03:53 theqat wrote:On June 30 2009 03:49 ronaldmcdonald wrote:
Supporting Blizzard's decision or "shhh wait for bnet 2.0" = in favor of removing LAN as far as I'm concerned.
They wouldn't say no LAN if multiplayer wasn't going to require an internet connection.
I don't see how this helps the community at all, regardless of your stance on piracy. Why did you re-register to continue trolling? Oh noes I am unhappy with the removal of a standard RTS feature so Blizzard can control/monitor the esports scene and "fight piracy" (rofl) so I must be trolling. Again, this decision doesn't help the community at all, regardless of your stance on piracy. The fact that mods obviously don't want too much critiscism makes me question their level of care for the community. I would hope they are "gamers" before teenage Blizzard fanboys, tbh.
I disagree with the decision to remove LAN, but am waiting for further information on Bnet 2.0 before launching into ill-informed tirades.
Now if Bnet 2.0 has some sort of pay-to-play-LAN or other ridiculous limitations then yes, I will deliver scathing philippics against ATVI moneymongering.
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On June 30 2009 04:11 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 04:03 grimace wrote:On June 30 2009 03:53 theqat wrote:On June 30 2009 03:49 ronaldmcdonald wrote:
Supporting Blizzard's decision or "shhh wait for bnet 2.0" = in favor of removing LAN as far as I'm concerned.
They wouldn't say no LAN if multiplayer wasn't going to require an internet connection.
I don't see how this helps the community at all, regardless of your stance on piracy. Why did you re-register to continue trolling? Oh noes I am unhappy with the removal of a standard RTS feature so Blizzard can control/monitor the esports scene and "fight piracy" (rofl) so I must be trolling. Again, this decision doesn't help the community at all, regardless of your stance on piracy. The fact that mods obviously don't want too much critiscism makes me question their level of care for the community. I would hope they are "gamers" before teenage Blizzard fanboys, tbh. I disagree with the decision to remove LAN, but am waiting for further information on Bnet 2.0 before launching into ill-informed tirades. Now if Bnet 2.0 has some sort of pay-to-play-LAN or other ridiculous limitations then yes, I will deliver scathing philippics against ATVI moneymongering.
If b.net 2.0 has lan latency (ie. as if your playing on hamachi), which I'm expecting it does, it shouldn't really be a problem, and it is a good step against anti-piracy
You need the internet to use it.. but just about everywhere you go you can connect online
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