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On June 07 2009 12:51 AttackZerg wrote:
Actually I play starcraft, I have starcraft related conversations with people who actually use the terms correctly.
When applied to starcraft you are completely wrong. I did wrong you, you have no idea what your talking about. So lol at the forum rookie acting like he isn't ignorant. Sorry bro, when applied to starcraft the meaning has always been different, you could even say 'incorrectly' used but it doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.
Lol! Well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that my post count makes you feel that your superior somehow, but you are, in fact, wrong. Just because you have a bunch of friends who might support the same invalid applications that you do, it doesn't mean that your ideas are right.
The definition of Metagaming is as I, and every other source that I've seen, confirmed. If you believe otherwise, then you are sadly mistaken.
Also, good job on backing up your arguments. You really made your point well.
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Washington, D.C9935 Posts
jtype's take on it is what i primarily think of when i see the word. it seems perfectly reasonable - what is so offensive about it? please don't be so aggressive and condescending about these definitions, especially to new members.
edit: id8 wanna buy an icon off of me for many $$$$$s?
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CA10835 Posts
intrigue you are so blinged out wtfzzz
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On June 07 2009 16:45 intrigue wrote:
for me, jtype's version is what i primarily think of when i see the word. it seems perfectly reasonable - what is so offensive about it? guys, please don't be so aggressive and condescending about these definitions, especially to new members.
OK, I will back down now, as trying to argue the point will get me nowhere. I know it seems like I'm being stubborn about it, but honestly, if I could be given some reasonable explanations about this, I would certainly be willing to readjust my perspective on this.
I am really grateful for the work everyone's done on the Liquipedia project (including you AttackZerg) and am really looking forward to benefiting from the experience of all you guys. It's an amazing undertaking and one that will even further advance TL above all other SC communities.
Respect.
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United States17042 Posts
Interestingly enough, I think the concept of metagame deserves it's own strat forum thread. If anyone is willing to take the time to make a good op...
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On June 07 2009 18:08 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Interestingly enough, I think the concept of metagame deserves it's own strat forum thread. If anyone is willing to take the time to make a good op...
I would need idra,ret and artosis's help since they have an actual finger on the pulse of the meta-game while my level of play and understanding isn't high enough.
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United States44393 Posts
On June 07 2009 19:15 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2009 18:08 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Interestingly enough, I think the concept of metagame deserves it's own strat forum thread. If anyone is willing to take the time to make a good op... I would need idra,ret and artosis's help since they have an actual finger on the pulse of the meta-game while my level of play and understanding isn't high enough.
Oh man. Our eventual conclusion was to divide metagame (a technical term for what you mean) with meta-game (a literal word meaning beyond or outside the game). You mean metagame :p. This is going to get confusing.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 07 2009 15:19 Danka wrote:
hasnt it been 36 hours yet ??
Ya it has. We have a few last minute coding things to tie up and then we're good to go!
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I give my regards to you guys. This is gonna be sick! =]
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On June 07 2009 20:54 Plexa wrote:Ya it has. We have a few last minute coding things to tie up and then we're good to go!
TL.net and delays = tradition. Same as Blizzard and soon 
Most people prolly already got used to it that's why we see no 5000 posts "omg you are late" (only few such posts :p) or anything. Too bad that there was no counter, which would like stop at 5 seconds, that would be soooo classic :D
P.s.
On June 07 2009 12:37 Kwark wrote:We got so caught up in all the debating about format that we forgot the content. We're doing a last minute rush of that now.
Hilarious :D
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United States44393 Posts
As much as I'm sure you're all waiting for this the technical delays are making liquipedia significantly better imo. Yesterday we all rallied for a last burst of content completion before we made it public. It's still not public and that burst is still going on. The threat of it opening is getting stuff done.
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On June 07 2009 20:54 Plexa wrote:Ya it has. We have a few last minute coding things to tie up and then we're good to go!
almost 45 hours have passed but I'm too thankful to be impatient
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On June 07 2009 21:36 o3.power91 wrote:I'm too thankful to be impatient
Agreed. I'm just glad that this is all happening. Take your time guys. 
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Sad confession: Was browsing TL and all of a sudden it wouldn't load the next page of whatever I was reading, first thing I though was OMFG LIQUIPEDIA! Turns out my browser just crashed.  (((((((
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Hungary11305 Posts
Choose any planet you like to make the 36 hrs true. You can do it!
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@ jtype and attackzerg
The word metagame has two uses so you're both right. What jtype is saying is correct - decisions based on information from outside of the rules structure of the game is called metagaming. The Starcraft community (and other gaming communities) often refer to this as "mindgames".
However metagame as a noun certainly has another very widely used meaning - it describes the state of the commonly employed strategies of the players of the game as a whole. For example the current TvZ pro metagame involves a lot of wraith builds, mech builds, and valkyrie-bionic builds. That is what AttackZerg is referring to, and I think that is the more common use of the word when it is applied to StarCraft.
If you guys had read the wikipedia article for the word you'd see it mentions both.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metagaming
Another game-related use of Metagaming refers to operating on knowledge of the way a game is played within a particular geographic region or tournament circuit. This local or circuit-specific context is often referred to as the metagame.
Just replace "particular geographic region or tournament circuit" with "the current pro scene".
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How can someone not love TLnet?
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On June 07 2009 21:52 jtype wrote:Agreed. I'm just glad that this is all happening. Take your time guys.
Don't worry I have plenty of coffee ^_^
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