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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-23 05:06:02
May 23 2008 04:55 GMT
#1
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MSL Group F


With Light, sAviOr, and Firebathero stuffed in the same group [fantasy is there as cannon fodder], this gathering - especially the sAviOr vs. Firebathero match - was one of the most anticipated nights of the MSL ro32.

Set I
(T)Light[aLive] vs (T)by.fantasy




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What can I say? Fantasy just got outclassed. His proxy factories were cute, and did a good amount of damage, but Light's calm under pressure and superb wraith decision-making won him the game. The early game marine vs vulture micro was quite excellent.

After the goliaths failed to kill Light, the game was over. Well done by Light, especially since he was playing with a severe stomachache. Sickness Terran fighting!


Set II
(Z)sAviOr[gm] vs (T)firebathero




+ Show Spoiler [Game comments] +

To no-one's surprise, sAviOr was mauled. Terribly. The Maestro looked more like a 2-bit piano newbie attempting "chopsticks" for the first time, running about aimlessly and losing expansions and units carelessly. Firebathero simply walks over the ex-Bonjwa to take the win.

This was a terribly depressing game to watch. sAviOr demonstrated zero drive to win.



Winners' Set
(T)Light[aLive] vs (T)firebathero


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Cute build from Light, who probably wanted to go to the hospital by ending the game early. Sort of a pseudo-fake 14cc into fac / port rush. Unfortunately for Jaeho, BraQ played very defensively and was able to weather the storm with relative ease.

From then on, Seungeun parlayed his economic lead into a military one to take the set. Firebathero with the easy [and dare I say deserved?] 2-0 to advance into the ro16.


Losers' Set
(Z)sAviOr[gm] vs (T)by.fantasy



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There are some long games that are tense and epic, with both players competing at a near-incomprehensibly high level. These matches: sAviOr vs Iris game 5, Arkanoid; GoRush vs Nal_rA, Neo Forte; Reach vs ChOJJa, Rush Hour; they are the ones that make us watch progaming.

Then there are the long games that put you to sleep. I dozed off at several points during this game, it was just so inane. The Korean community has a term for matches such as these, where both players deserve to lose, "OME", for "Oh! My Eyes!"


Final Set
(T)Light[aLive] vs (Z)sAviOr[gm]



+ Show Spoiler [Game comments] +

This game pained me to watch as well. Light played quite solidly, and when you take his terrible bowel pains into consideration, his performance is indeed respectable.

I wish I could say the same about sAviOr. His choices with the mutaling army, neither defending his expo nor countering well, made me weep for the lost force of the Maestro. Before the mutaling army went into the nat, I was silently screaming "No!", soon after the pools of zerg blood confirmed my fears.

The rest of the game was a mere formality. Light's a good player. sAviOr is not.


Results

Game 1: (T)Light > (T)fantasy on Athena
Game 2: (Z)sAviOr < (T)firebathero on Tiamat
Winners: (T)Light < (T)firebathero on Colosseum
Losers: (Z)sAviOr > (T)fantasy on Colosseum
Tiebreak: (T)Light > (Z)sAviOr on Othello

(T)firebathero and (T)Light[aLive] advance.


FBH was the best player that day. I think Light is still stronger, overall, though we'll have to wait to see. Light is still the Man of Ro32, as, until facing fbh, he had never lost a game in ro32 ever.

On the other hand, sAviOr finds himself at Gethsemane. His fans and antis alike wait with bated breath to see what happens next.

Fantasy? Nobody cares. You beat Nal_rA in ProLeague. GTFO. Looking forward to the Ro16! KayTep fighting~

Love and luck,
LR
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
May 23 2008 05:02 GMT
#2
sAviOr
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
May 23 2008 05:05 GMT
#3
I feel sad for Savior, but at the same time happy for FBH and impressed by Light's determination - the poor guy had food poisoning and did indeed go to the hospital after the matches. He looked terrible close up and still played to win.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Axieoqu
Profile Joined October 2005
Finland204 Posts
May 23 2008 05:08 GMT
#4
Nice wrap up. You said it best. BTW wasn't Light playing sick just a while ago too? Not too much luck there. I'm glad he advanced despite that.
ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
May 23 2008 05:11 GMT
#5
Maybe Ligth plays better when sick :S
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
May 23 2008 05:17 GMT
#6
Firebatherooooooo~

"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 23 2008 05:21 GMT
#7
I think that this group was super weak. It's comprised of a has-been, a never-was, a guy who's seen better days, and guy with a stomach.

At least the right people go eliminated from the group.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
May 23 2008 05:48 GMT
#8
FBH is still lookin strong i think. Hopefully he can overcome his terrible TvP to beat Much in the Ro16
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
May 23 2008 06:18 GMT
#9
Game 4 was the best game of that group imo. It's true that both players played bad but it was still more refreshing to see mass plague vs mech in action than the other 4 "standard" games.
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
May 23 2008 06:20 GMT
#10
FBH specialized in TvZ just so he can beat savior. that is why his TvP sucks so bad. maybe he can start doing bisu victory dances now... so bisu can punch the snot out of him.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
May 23 2008 07:57 GMT
#11
It's always best to check the results of FBH/Savior games in advance, since there's no point in watching the same thing over again.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
May 23 2008 08:25 GMT
#12
Gogo FBH!!!
Hope he goes the distance this time and deliver an epic ceremony.
Logic is Overrated
Rambling.
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada314 Posts
May 23 2008 09:39 GMT
#13
Kick ass games, I`m starting up some top foreign replays this week and I`ll post where u can find them, I really want some feed back, if u guys think my voice is sexy enough, i might start casting the msl as well. FBH FTW!
An unfortunate person is one who tries to fart but shits instead
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
May 23 2008 09:45 GMT
#14
Accept it you stupid fans. sAviOr sucks now. Someone who I used to hate voraciously is now just someone I actually pity. It seems like just yesterday everybody was downright scared of sAviOr. How fast and far he has fallen.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6768 Posts
May 23 2008 10:25 GMT
#15
On May 23 2008 18:45 jkillashark wrote:
Accept it you stupid fans. sAviOr sucks now. Someone who I used to hate voraciously is now just someone I actually pity. It seems like just yesterday everybody was downright scared of sAviOr. How fast and far he has fallen.


Fast? He didnt fall fast wtf
Graphics
251
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1401 Posts
May 23 2008 12:38 GMT
#16
I'd really like to see firebathero go further and prove himself this MSL, instead of being ro16/ro8 fodder. fbh please fix your sorry TvP.
"If you can chill..........then chill."
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
May 23 2008 12:42 GMT
#17
FBH for the top1
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
May 23 2008 12:43 GMT
#18
Next time, Savior. Next time T_T
^-^
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
May 23 2008 15:23 GMT
#19
FBH's expression in the booth after the match says it all. Savior isn't worth having a ceremony over anymore.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
May 23 2008 15:44 GMT
#20
tvt is sooooo tedious to watch.
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