The Protoss players have finally caught up with the rest of the world in terms of mastering many facets of the game and matchups.
They both played spectacular.
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							Showtime!
							
							
						 
						Canada2938 Posts
						 
													
												May 12 2008 01:40 GMT 
						 #1021 The Protoss players have finally caught up with the rest of the world in terms of mastering many facets of the game and matchups. They both played spectacular. | ||
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						Poland611 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 01:43 GMT 
						 #1022 On May 12 2008 10:40 Showtime! wrote: oh gibe me a break with the whole p imbalance bullshit. These are the same maps being used in the pro leagues. They both played spectacular. exactly, no need to say anything more | ||
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						Australia94 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 01:44 GMT 
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						Germany19 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 01:44 GMT 
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							ahole-surprise
							
							
						 
						United States813 Posts
						 
													
												May 12 2008 01:44 GMT 
						 #1025 On May 12 2008 10:39 B1nary wrote: Better too many P than too many Z or T. I'd say PvP is the most interesting mirror match up. I mean... would you rather have BO3 sets that take 2 hours or 20 minutes over some good PvP? How about a balance of races, which would happen if protoss wasn't the easiest race for foreigners by large and if you dispute this, just look at the original TSL pool and the current bracket. Edit: And by your logic, which I assume is shorter = better, wouldn't ZvZ be better than PvP? | ||
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							Carnac
							
							
						 
						Germany / USA16648 Posts
						 
													
												May 12 2008 01:48 GMT 
						 #1026 On May 12 2008 10:40 Showtime! wrote:The fact that a map is being used in the professional leagues is by no means whatsoever a proof for it being balanced. There have been plenty of not so well to really badly balanced maps. oh gibe me a break with the whole p imbalance bullshit. These are the same maps being used in the pro leagues. | ||
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						Canada2938 Posts
						 
													
												May 12 2008 01:55 GMT 
						 #1027 What we just saw was pvz to perfection. I think the Koreans would be quite satisfied with how those two games played out. Protoss has always been foreigner's strong suit. It is undeniable. These maps are solid. For those players who missed the boat, try again next season as I'm sure we'll get dif. maps again that are pretty well balanced. | ||
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						Braavos36379 Posts
						 
													
												May 12 2008 01:56 GMT 
						 #1028 (originally 8 P's, 3 Z's, 3 T's, and 2 R's) if just one of the P>Z or P>T matches swung the other way, it'd be completely normal race makeup (4-2-2) in the Ro8 given the distribution of the players in the Ro16 But yeah, if you don't want PvP semifinals, cheer for those Z's and T's  edit: Yes, Wuthering may be hard for ZvP, but Zodiac and Blue Storm aren't easy for PvZ and Othello's stats haven't really been proven yet. Using new maps is a calculated risk by the league. There is a chance they are bad for a particular matchup, but would everyone still enjoy watching Python and Longinus? | ||
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						Canada2938 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 01:58 GMT 
						 #1029 hopefully next week we get some more great matches that are equal to the caliber of tonight's. | ||
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						Canada12499 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 01:58 GMT 
						 #1030 On May 12 2008 10:56 Hot_Bid wrote: But yeah, if you don't want PvP semifinals, cheer for those Z's and T  | ||
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						Poland366 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 01:59 GMT 
						 #1031 I feel kinda sorry for Mondragon, I really don't know what more he could do to win, everything seemed just so goooooodd, too bad one of these two had to go down, this match would make a great final | ||
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						Germany522 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 01:59 GMT 
						 #1032 i will be cheering for the non-ps but i dont see it happening sadly 8[ | ||
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						United States2116 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 02:00 GMT 
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							Carnac
							
							
						 
						Germany / USA16648 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 02:03 GMT 
						 #1034 On May 12 2008 10:59 khersai wrote: the final game was just pimp ! I mean omg, Mondi played extremely well harassing from all directions with those annoying lurker cliffdrops and massive drops into the main, still Dreiven managed to deflect them all somehow and those stroms.... just WOW I feel kinda sorry for Mondragon, I really don't know what more he could do to win, everything seemed just so goooooodd, too bad one of these two had to go down, this match would make a great final he simply missed the hidden expo  he didnt even notice the probes sliding past his two lurkers on their way to the expansion during the game, he only saw it on the stream (told me so), that probably cost him the game. but yeah, dreiven played really really well  | ||
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							ahole-surprise
							
							
						 
						United States813 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 02:05 GMT 
						 #1035 On May 12 2008 10:59 diehilde wrote: lets face it, brat_ok is not gonna beat the monster u saw playing mondi today and nony is not exactly KR im afraid °_° and i dont think dinot is the favourite against JF either.. i will be cheering for the non-ps but i dont see it happening sadly 8[ Of all the terrans I've seen, and I've seen every game this tournament, Brat_OK's TvP has impressed me more than Strelok or Idra within this tournament. He has a keen game sense and understanding for that matchup. He beat Nony 2-1 in pretty convincing fashion. I think he has a decent chance against Dreiven. | ||
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						Poland611 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 02:06 GMT 
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							Liquid`Nazgul
							
							
						 
						22427 Posts
						 
													
												May 12 2008 02:10 GMT 
						 #1037 I'm definitely rooting for the non-p's to get through the next round so we can enjoy some variety. | ||
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						Germany522 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 02:10 GMT 
						 #1038 On May 12 2008 11:05 ahole-surprise wrote: Show nested quote + On May 12 2008 10:59 diehilde wrote: lets face it, brat_ok is not gonna beat the monster u saw playing mondi today and nony is not exactly KR im afraid °_° and i dont think dinot is the favourite against JF either.. i will be cheering for the non-ps but i dont see it happening sadly 8[ Of all the terrans I've seen, and I've seen every game this tournament, Brat_OK's TvP has impressed me more than Strelok or Idra within this tournament. He has a keen game sense and understanding for that matchup. He beat Nony 2-1 in pretty convincing fashion. I think he has a decent chance against Dreiven. Well I could say he only beat Nony 2-1, who was described in TSL as "Strong PvP and PvZ, relatively weak PvT". Im a lil exaggerating but I think u get the point. | ||
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						Germany19 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 02:16 GMT 
						 #1039 On May 12 2008 11:05 ahole-surprise wrote: Show nested quote + On May 12 2008 10:59 diehilde wrote: lets face it, brat_ok is not gonna beat the monster u saw playing mondi today and nony is not exactly KR im afraid °_° and i dont think dinot is the favourite against JF either.. i will be cheering for the non-ps but i dont see it happening sadly 8[ Of all the terrans I've seen, and I've seen every game this tournament, Brat_OK's TvP has impressed me more than Strelok or Idra within this tournament. He has a keen game sense and understanding for that matchup. He beat Nony 2-1 in pretty convincing fashion. I think he has a decent chance against Dreiven. u are so damn right !! | ||
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							t0t
							
							
						 
						6 Posts
						 
												May 12 2008 02:19 GMT 
						 #1040 On May 12 2008 10:55 Showtime! wrote: we're well aware of that, but they're usually replaced mid-season. you tell me carnac how you think p favors z more on those maps we just saw. There is a lot of room for changing your strat on the fly. What we just saw was pvz to perfection. I think the Koreans would be quite satisfied with how those two games played out. Protoss has always been foreigner's strong suit. It is undeniable. These maps are solid. For those players who missed the boat, try again next season as I'm sure we'll get dif. maps again that are pretty well balanced. Koreans probably won't be since we are at similar levels as korean amateur semi pros ;p but anyways im impressed at how good we are regardless | ||
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