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FBH vs Stork - GomTV2 MSL Semi#2

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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-04 15:13:38
July 04 2007 10:54 GMT
#1

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GomTV 2 MSL - Semifinal 2 - Firebathero vs Stork

July 5th, 18:30 Korea Time @ MBCGame

After the rather anticlimatic encounter between the defending champion Bisu and old school veteran Gorush last weekend it is now time to determine the second contestant for the final of the MSL.

Steve Urkel - Firebathero
Today's match, the 2nd semifinal, will be one of the rather rare occurances of team mates having to play each other in the late stages of a major tournament.

Both players, Firebathero and Stork are part of Samsung KHAN, the team which - as you may know (check!) - has been leading the rankings of the Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 1 for the longest time. In fact, along with their constantly winning 2v2 teams, they have been the key players of Samsung this season. Just look at this: out of Samsung's 34-25 stats in 1v1 22-5 can be attributed to Firebathero and Stork.

And now those two have to face each other to battle out who is going to join Bisu in the finals, this could be very, very interesting.

Both players have obviously been on a roll. While FBH's Proleague games have almost exclusively been against Terran players (9-1 stats overall, 8-1 of them in TvT and one single TvZ game) he had the chance to prove himself against Zerg in the quarter finals of this MSL and he did so with bravery, eliminating the favourite Savior from the tournament with a 3-2 victory. A victory he followed by his controversial victory dance

Stork is obviously neither Terran nor Zerg though and FBH hasn't had much chance to show us what his TvP is made of, so he really does have a lot to prove, not only to the audience, but also to himself (and to Etter).


I'm gonna scratch your eyes out - Stork
FBH isn't the only who has something to prove - so does Stork. Back in 2005 experts labeled him one of the three hopes of Protoss, alongside with Anytime and Pusan. However, out of those only Anytime only managed to actually win something big so far, he took down Boxer 3-2 in the finals of the So1 OSL 2005 and also placed 2nd behind Nada in the Shinhan 2 OSL 2006.

It doesn't mean that Stork did nothing, he won some impressive games back then. The ace match of Samsung vs GO in the playoffs of the 2005 Sky Proleague Round 2 season comes to mind as well as the famous, almost 1 hour long game against Gorush on Requiem! But afterwards he kind of dropped from the scenery, failing to make it to the major leagues.

But he's back and stronger than ever. Four players made it to the quarters of both Starleagues - Stork, Bisu, Hwasin and Savior. Hwasin lost in both. Savior lost in both. Bisu lost in one. And well, Stork won in both, making him the only player still in both leagues. If you take into account how well he has been doing in Proleague this is really an impressive feat. Did you know that he played five ace matches for Samsung this season and won them all? That's right.

His style isn't as flashy or impressive as Bisu's PvZ or Nal_rA special builds though, it's mostly smart, well timed straight-up play and he is incredibly successful with it.


Map order and predictions

Game 1 Stork vs FireBatHero @ Loki
Game 2 Stork vs FireBatHero @ Monty Hall
Game 3 Stork vs FireBatHero @ Desperado
Game 4 Stork vs FireBatHero @ Python
Game 5 Stork vs FireBatHero @ Loki

The map that is going to be played twice (if the series gets this far) is Loki. Only 6 PvT games have been played on it so far, with 5-1 stats in favour of Protoss. Given Stork's incredible form in PvT lately I do believe FBH will have a really hard time to come up with something effective against Stork on it, unless he is capable of designing good 1 time builds.

The same goes basically for Monty, while it hasn't shown any major imbalanced in favour of P in PvT the stats are still in favour of Protoss. FBH's hope for Monty Hall likes in a special build as well and we have seen quite of few of those on it.

Personally I think Desperado and Python are must wins for FBH and those are heavily dependent on starting positions, making possible outcomes hard to predict.

Overall the maps are somewhere between balanced and slightly favoured for Protoss, combined with Stork's incredible PvT and FBH's lack of TvP in official games this really should lead to Stork winning the series.
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Koldblooded
Profile Joined July 2006
United States661 Posts
July 04 2007 10:59 GMT
#2
go stork I think he has a pretty good shot at winning the starleague
By.Flash fighting
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 04 2007 11:05 GMT
#3
Stork > Gay airplane dance.
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NaDazpwnz3r
Profile Joined April 2007
United States111 Posts
July 04 2007 11:14 GMT
#4
FBH just owned savior, so FBH FTW
Saber is el pwnz0r in FSN
joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
July 04 2007 11:16 GMT
#5
nice write -up =D awesome i might stay up and watch this today =)
Daveed
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States236 Posts
July 04 2007 11:30 GMT
#6
gay airplane dance > all
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
July 04 2007 11:39 GMT
#7
Oh man, its probably just the glasses, but at a glance I thought those two pics were of the same person.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
July 04 2007 11:42 GMT
#8
Awesome writeup Carnac. Stork will win. I'm confident in the bird.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
July 04 2007 11:46 GMT
#9
go fbh.
do more fucking dances!
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 04 2007 12:32 GMT
#10
GO FbH!!!
I won't forgive you if you lose to the guy who got torn up by the person you just beat.
Stork isn't very interesting to watch for me and a mirror mu final isn't something I want to watch.
On the other hand, if FBH wins he has a good chance of taking the MSL because Bisu has shown that his PvT isn't as strong as his other mus. The one thing I want to happen this season is for Bisu to take his 2nd msl title.
Hmmm.... I guess I'll still root for the firebat.
bumpirate
Profile Joined June 2007
United States122 Posts
July 04 2007 12:37 GMT
#11
hoping for stork! bisu vs stork will be nice ^^
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
July 04 2007 12:46 GMT
#12
On July 04 2007 20:42 ManaBlue wrote:
Awesome writeup Carnac. Stork will win. I'm confident in the bird.


CAW! Or squawk? I have no idea what sound a stork makes.

Stork FIGHTING~
^-^
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
July 04 2007 12:46 GMT
#13
On July 04 2007 21:37 bumpirate wrote:
hoping for stork! bisu vs stork will be nice ^^


It's probably going to turn into another rA vs Bisu match again
^-^
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 04 2007 12:50 GMT
#14
On July 04 2007 21:32 kNyTTyM wrote:
GO FbH!!!
On the other hand, if FBH wins he has a good chance of taking the MSL because Bisu has shown that his PvT isn't as strong as his other mus.

Bisu got terribly cheesed twice, he had 7-3 PvT record in OSL and 13-3 in MSL before facing flash. How can you say his PvT is not strong.. What stats do you need to say that he has no weak matchups?
StripedBlueCrow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States506 Posts
July 04 2007 12:59 GMT
#15
I like them both.

I would like to root for the one that can take down Bisu. I hate Bisu.
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 04 2007 13:18 GMT
#16
Bisu would probably be the favourite to go 3:2/3:1 over FBH, given Bisu's got plenty the time to train for that matchup just as FBH does. I don't know how Bisu would go against Stork though ... stork could possibly end up preparing for PvT, PvP and PvZ at this rate, so this looks set to be an exciting MSL final whoever wins.

Go stork <_< >_>. That way a Protoss is guaranteed an MSL win.
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PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
July 04 2007 14:29 GMT
#17
I hope stork rapes the shit out of FBH, so that he can say "in your face you cocky failure of a dancer"
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 04 2007 14:48 GMT
#18
Bisu got terribly cheesed twice, he had 7-3 PvT record in OSL and 13-3 in MSL before facing flash. How can you say his PvT is not strong.. What stats do you need to say that he has no weak matchups?


What I said was that it isn't as strong as his other mus.
He has proven himself in PvZ by 3-0ing the Maestro once and having a 6-1 record against him.
In PvP he beat rA 3-0 who had an 81% against protoss in MSL at the time.

So far in vs Terran he has not shown much. He 2-0d Light. Went 3-2 against Hwasin in an unconvicning set of games. Game 1 he outmacroed Hwasin. Game 2 Hwasin did the same back to Bisu. Game 3 Hwasin failed a cheese. Game 4 Bisu proxied and lost to a counter harass and Game 5 won using dts against a weakly defended base.
He lost 2-0 to a set of cheeses against Flash and is 1-3 against Terran in proleague losing to Boxer, Chrh and Midas.
yoinkity
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)43 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-04 15:05:20
July 04 2007 15:04 GMT
#19
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO TERRAN LOLOLOLOL i really dont want to see a pvp finals. but i hope fbh doesn't do another gay dance. actually iono
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
July 04 2007 15:08 GMT
#20
Awesome writeup. :
FBH fighting!
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