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July 24th, 2013 21:13 GMT
2013 WCS KOREA
WCS Korea Season II

Ro8 - Day Two Preview
First vs. Bomber
Rain vs. SuperNoVa

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Ro8: Day 2 Preview

We already know there will be a Terran player in the finals, with Maru and INnoVation going toe to toe in one semi-final matchup. It's time to find out which two players will be facing off on the other side.

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Last week brought plentiful bounty for fans of TvZ. This week it's TvP that gets the spotlight as we have a blockbuster double header lined up. Onto the matches!

Quarter-Final Three: First vs. Bomber

by PigsCanFly

(T)ST_Bomber’s reward for beating INnoVation is not having to face Soulkey. Given that Soulkey is the best Zerg in the world and the second best player overall, and that TvZ is by far Bomber’s weakest HotS matchup as well, it is probably an adequate reward for the excellent showing he put up against INnoVation despite the match being essentially a dead rubber. Unfortunately for Bomber, he did not draw another Terran opponent who he could probably swat aside, based on his thrashing of INnoVation and his 17 - 3 TvT record in HotS. Instead, he gets to face this season’s scariest dark horse, (P)LG-IM_First.

While TvP is Bomber's strongest matchup in a historical sense, it was more in the early stages of his career where he was especially famous for the match-up. Although Bomber’s TvP record in HotS is not very impressive, a closer look at the calibre of opponents has been facing shows that there have been no pushovers, with his losses coming against the likes of Creator, sOs and MC (who destroyed Bomber at the first HotS MLG with yet-to-be-figured-out oracle builds). Having also defeated First in the GSTL earlier this month and having reached successive GSL Ro8s for the first time in his long career, Bomber should go into this match with much confidence.

While (P)First is a Starleague Royal Roader he is no stranger to the scene, having been active since around the start of 2012. Like Bomber, one thing has followed him for much of his career – hype. Along with his teammates Yonghwa and Yoda, First was seen as the next generation of all conquering players that IM would produce, and the heirs to the likes of Mvp and Nestea. In making it to the Ro8, First has already made it further than both of his teammates have ever gone. However, despite a much shorter career, First has produced almost as many results as Bomber with his victory at IEM Katowice and second place finishes at last year’s MLG Summer and this year’s IEM World Championships matching Bomber’s 1st place at MLG Raleigh in 2011, 3rd place Dreamhack Summer 2011 and 1st place in Code A (back when it still was a trophy May 2011).

Bomber’s results and podium finishes were all clustered around a 6 month period in the middle of 2011, back when the Bomber hype train was still running full steam. That period was also when he last reached the Ro8. Similarly, First’s results and quick rise since the start of this year mirror those of Bomber’s 3 years ago. Just like Bomber, First needs to show that he can make it to the next level – semi-finals of the GSL. While Bomber’s rise was eventually overshadowed by Mvp's total dominion of Terran, First has a real chance to make a run at the title of best Protoss in the World. Making it to the semi-finals would put him right into contention alongside the likes of Parting, Rain and sOs especially put alongside his strong results in the GSTL.

First is in a similar position to where Bomber was in 2011 – a young, hyped, hotshot player who is threatening to take the scene by storm. Bomber will be eager to put First in his place and show him that the new Bomber, who is less hyped, more consistent and less choke-y has learned something from his years in exile. First on the other hand, will be eager to show that he is better than Bomber was at this stage of his career and to remind Bomber fans that while Bomber can improve, one ignores Bomber’s Law at one’s own peril.

Prediction: Bomber 3 - 2 First


Quarter-Final Four: Rain vs. SuperNoVa

by monk

Once upon a time, oGs served as a home for wayward Terrans looking to find their way in Wings of Liberty - Supernova, ForGG, TheStC, and even Nada were once part of this all-star team. Together, these Terrans grew together, learned together, and left a lasting impression on the WoL scene, one of their accomplishments being the pioneering of the standard hellion banshee opening in TvZ. But as oGs closed down, unable to adapt with the changing of the the times, the poor orphans of the oGs house were scattered round the world. TheStC found Quantic and then coL, hoping each time he might find a team that might last. ForGG looked toward Millenium, and began to rake in cash in European tournaments and cups, bringing us ever closer to ForGGegdon. Together, they explored the world, searching for easy treasure.

But (T)SuperNova, the one with by far the most success in Korea, stayed steadfast to his roots. While he had a brief stint on mTw, Supernova decided he would not settle for less when it came to finding a new team. He stayed teamless for months while he held out for an impressive offer, eventually joining up with the mysterious, potentially shady, but definitely wealthy AZUBU. Instead of abandoning his home soil, Supernova trained hard in Korea for the most prestigious league in the world: GSL WCS KR. But as the seasons passed and an expansion was released, hope for Supernova grew more dire. Past WoL champions such as DRG and Creator had failed to adapt, and with the threat of KeSPa looming ever closer, it would not have surprised most to see Supernova fall to the wayside as well.

But this season was one of redemption, both for eSF players and for Supernova himself. Supernova qualified for Premier League yet again, despite facing a gauntlet of players against whom maybe would have considered him an underdog. Three of these players were of the Protoss persuasion: Squirtle, Parting, and Trap. In each of these games, he showed off his own brand of TvP: not quite the standard but close enough that you would confuse him with most any other Korean Terran on the planet. He may have some of his own builds, he'll sometimes proxy a few buildings, and he's even shown hellbat play post-patch. But more often than not, he's shown well-executed standard play with a slightly aggressive twist. In a variety of matchups, but especially against Protoss, Supernova persevered though his challenges, but Rain will by far be Supernova's biggest hurdle yet.

If Supernova is an emblem of the old age, then (P)SKT_Rain is the herald of the new. His entrance into the scene signaled the beginning of the KeSPa invasion. It's been almost a year since Rain's first OSL win and since then, Rain has never fallen out of contention for the title of "World's best Protoss" (I hear he has this on a mug). Nevertheless, recent events have forced us re-evaluate Rain's role in the grand scheme of things. For the second Proleague season in a row, Rain failed to clinch the ace match for his team; for the second season in a row, he was just barely not good enough to carry his team to the holy land.

Since his first glorious OSL title, Rain's story seems to be of one who just barely misses his mark each time. This all dates back to the last WCS Grand Finals, in which Rain took a sure-win game and missed a force field, turning it into a sure-loss against Creator in a deciding semifinal game. Then in the battle for most wins this season of Proleague, Flash, Innovation, and Rain were neck and neck until the end of round five, when Flash shot ahead and Rain stumbled hard into third place. Finally, his recent failures for his team in Proleague as the ace for his team (going 0-3 in the playoffs) harked back to the last season of Hybrid Proleague, where he let a chance at the finals slip by in an ace match against CJherO.

Of course, this can all be readily be explained by Rain's style. His predictably standard defensive play may be enough to hold off the vast majority of players, but once he hits the top 1%, his extremely unflashy play becomes insufficient. To put it simply, Rain may be an immovable object, but when he meets an unstoppable force, he'll, more often than not, fold.

That being said, PvT is still Rain's strong suit, a matchup that he flaunted in the round of 16 against Bomber and Keen. Even though Rain always gets the worse end of the build orders due to his religious commitment to safety, he'll invariably manage a way to outplay his opponents, gaining tiny snowballing advantages at every turn. His only recent significant loss was to Innovation in the playoffs, in a game where he showed he was willing to employ the very rare all-in, given the right situation. Supernova has to ask himself if he's Innovation or comparable to him; if not, he'll be in trouble tonight.

Prediction: Rain 3 - 1 Supernova

More WCS Korea / Starleague Coverage

July 22 – First and Rain advance to Ro8 after triple tiebreakers.
July 17 – SuperNoVa secures his Ro8 spot while First faces the possibility of tie-breakers.
July 12 – Soulkey, Bomber, Maru cinch Ro8 spots; PartinG and Flash eliminated.
July 10 – First continues his surprise run, defeating Rain to go up 2 - 0 in Group B.
July 3 – First's immaculate PvT shines on first day of Ro16 matches
June 28 – SKT duo of PartinG and Rain advance from the final day of the Ro32
June 28 – Groups for Starleague Ro16 announced, Innovation and Flash in group B.


Writers: monk and PigsCanFly
Graphics: wo1fwood.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 24 2013 21:16 GMT
#2
bomber and first are my favorites, and they have to meet in the ro8 t.t
i am going to predict 3:2 for bomber as well and 3:0 for rain.
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Vanadium
Profile Joined December 2012
481 Posts
July 24 2013 21:24 GMT
#3
Thanks for the write-up!

The blurb on the front page, though, states that both Rain and Bomber are facing Supernova.
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
July 24 2013 21:25 GMT
#4
Uh oh....TL prediction in Bombers favor is probably going to invoke Bomber's Law for sure....
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 21:26:43
July 24 2013 21:26 GMT
#5
On July 25 2013 06:25 Pazuzu wrote:
Uh oh....TL prediction in Bombers favor is probably going to invoke Bomber's Law for sure....


bomber's law is fueled by your support for bomber

it's like an anti-spirit bomb
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banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
July 24 2013 21:27 GMT
#6
GOGO Bomber and Rain! I think this would make for the most interesting matchup anyways.
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iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
July 24 2013 21:28 GMT
#7
On July 25 2013 06:24 Vanadium wrote:
Thanks for the write-up!

The blurb on the front page, though, states that both Rain and Bomber are facing Supernova.

I second that. Supernova gonna take on 2 people
Hoping for Rain and Bomber
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
July 24 2013 21:29 GMT
#8
I like Bomber. But I also like first
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 24 2013 21:29 GMT
#9
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lynchkin
Profile Joined October 2012
United States14 Posts
July 24 2013 21:30 GMT
#10
On the home page, it says rain versus supernova and bomber versus supernova. Shouldn't it be bomber vs first?
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
July 24 2013 21:30 GMT
#11
Maru Inno Rain Bomber would be the perfect ro4
Refer to my post.
syroz
Profile Joined September 2012
France249 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 21:32:23
July 24 2013 21:30 GMT
#12
2 TvP! Gooood.

I happy that Bomber and supernova shine a bit in WCS. It has been a while.

But this OSL is for Rain. 1 year after, it is written.
nuogaiyen
Profile Joined May 2012
United States42 Posts
July 24 2013 21:33 GMT
#13
Bomber this go around seems more focused, with hellbats ruling out mass chargelot TvP is sure to be more pleasant, Terran for life!!
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
July 24 2013 21:33 GMT
#14
How is First a royal roader? Do they just mean he hasn't yet lost?
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Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 21:36:40
July 24 2013 21:35 GMT
#15
What about the #1 rule of Bomber, Bomber will always disappoint. everything is pointing towards First winning except the Artosis curse, this is going to be a hard one to call.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 21:38:10
July 24 2013 21:37 GMT
#16
On July 25 2013 06:33 Edpayasugo wrote:
How is First a royal roader? Do they just mean he hasn't yet lost?

Just means first time in Premiere League/ Code S/ OSL
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
July 24 2013 21:38 GMT
#17
On July 25 2013 06:25 Pazuzu wrote:
Uh oh....TL prediction in Bombers favor is probably going to invoke Bomber's Law for sure....

yet unfortunately, artosis curse will slam first...
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
July 24 2013 21:41 GMT
#18
Imagine Maru getting a GSL/OSL title before MKP, hahaha (lets ignore the fact he has to play Innovation first)
Refer to my post.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 24 2013 21:44 GMT
#19
oh, a rare monk write up.
very good read
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JKM
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark419 Posts
July 24 2013 21:47 GMT
#20
On July 25 2013 06:29 Emzeeshady wrote:
Supernova will win 1 game with an scv pull and then Rain will just go fast storm every match and win


Storms didn't save Trap in game 1 (?) when Supernova arrived with scvs in tow ;-).

As many others I also cheer for Bomber and First, but I think it's a good thing they're facing off against each other, that way I am certain to see one advance to ro4 + season finals!
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Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
July 24 2013 21:53 GMT
#21
Nice write up monk

Would love to see Bomber and Supernova advance. Sure we'd have a Terran top 4 but I feel it wouldn't be undeserved. Plus Innovation is more likely to fall facing terran...
Try another route paperboy.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 24 2013 21:57 GMT
#22
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 24 2013 21:58 GMT
#23
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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
July 24 2013 22:04 GMT
#24
On July 25 2013 06:58 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 06:53 Steel wrote:
Nice write up monk

Would love to see Bomber and Supernova advance. Sure we'd have a Terran top 4 but I feel it wouldn't be undeserved. Plus Innovation is more likely to fall facing terran...

If Supernova makes the top 4 it is undeserved.

Innovation is the best and Maru and Bomber are playing amazing so I would be ok with that.


Supernova deserves it. Personally, Im actualyl said supernova is meeting rain. Cause I kinda dont care about either bomber or first and would rather see supernova v rain semi finals. Guess I'll just pull for bomber and supernova so I can have Terran supremacy.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 24 2013 22:11 GMT
#25
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 24 2013 22:17 GMT
#26
Thanks for the write up!
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painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 22:23:50
July 24 2013 22:21 GMT
#27
On July 25 2013 07:11 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 07:04 TheRavensName wrote:
On July 25 2013 06:58 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 06:53 Steel wrote:
Nice write up monk

Would love to see Bomber and Supernova advance. Sure we'd have a Terran top 4 but I feel it wouldn't be undeserved. Plus Innovation is more likely to fall facing terran...

If Supernova makes the top 4 it is undeserved.

Innovation is the best and Maru and Bomber are playing amazing so I would be ok with that.


Supernova deserves it. Personally, Im actualyl said supernova is meeting rain. Cause I kinda dont care about either bomber or first and would rather see supernova v rain semi finals. Guess I'll just pull for bomber and supernova so I can have Terran supremacy.

He has gotten here by abusing hellbats, acv pulls and all inning

I hope Rain beats him 3-0 and then builds 30 manner nexuses


There is nothing wrong with using a strategy that works (Parting's soul push?). Mvp beat a lot of protosses in GSL with scv pulls and he got praises for it.
We can say the same thing about Innovation's TvT. He won against MvP in the world final by being a better hellbat abuser in the match up. (I'm not downplaying his win, just an analogy ).
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
July 24 2013 22:25 GMT
#28
Supernova will destroy Rain. Or atleast I hope so...
Long live the Boss Toss!
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
July 24 2013 22:25 GMT
#29
Rain beat Keen and Bomber in the Round of 32, not 16!
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
July 24 2013 22:27 GMT
#30
I wanna be Hipster and say SuperNova. He has been looking good lately, and Rain have choked hard against terran.
And of course, go Bomber :D
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
July 24 2013 22:34 GMT
#31
So...

Bomber is going to get stomped 0-3, and Supernova is going to win in a close 3-2 series, just because of how these were written up. Also; we didn't state bomber's law or the corollary to it! D:
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DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
July 24 2013 22:38 GMT
#32
There is a typo on the front page: "Rain goes up against SuperNoVa, while Bomber faces SuperNoVa!"

Correction: Bomber goes up against First

But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
July 24 2013 22:41 GMT
#33
"The Starleague Ro8 continues as defending champion Rain goes up against SuperNoVa, while Bomber faces SuperNoVa!" Typo on the front page?
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Scoobers
Profile Joined May 2013
48 Posts
July 24 2013 22:42 GMT
#34
On July 25 2013 06:41 Zenbrez wrote:
Imagine Maru getting a GSL/OSL title before MKP, hahaha (lets ignore the fact he has to play Innovation first)


Well then MKP would have a serious mental breakdown I would assume. He no longer is the one we used to watch with mouths wide open due to unimaginable stuff he could do with his units so that would probably mean an end to his inside spirit of a pro gamer

Im actually hoping for Bomber vs Innovation finals with Bomber vs Rain semis, but I guess Bomber will fall now or in the semis sadly. I really hope he wins something major soon because he so deserves it in my opinion, love him!
Mudkipnick
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Korea (South)241 Posts
July 24 2013 22:50 GMT
#35
Wow I just realized there won't be a Zerg in the finals! Sorry, I'm kinda slow. I really hope Maru wins it all.
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
July 24 2013 22:54 GMT
#36
On July 25 2013 07:21 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 07:11 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 07:04 TheRavensName wrote:
On July 25 2013 06:58 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 06:53 Steel wrote:
Nice write up monk

Would love to see Bomber and Supernova advance. Sure we'd have a Terran top 4 but I feel it wouldn't be undeserved. Plus Innovation is more likely to fall facing terran...

If Supernova makes the top 4 it is undeserved.

Innovation is the best and Maru and Bomber are playing amazing so I would be ok with that.


Supernova deserves it. Personally, Im actualyl said supernova is meeting rain. Cause I kinda dont care about either bomber or first and would rather see supernova v rain semi finals. Guess I'll just pull for bomber and supernova so I can have Terran supremacy.

He has gotten here by abusing hellbats, acv pulls and all inning

I hope Rain beats him 3-0 and then builds 30 manner nexuses


There is nothing wrong with using a strategy that works (Parting's soul push?). Mvp beat a lot of protosses in GSL with scv pulls and he got praises for it.
We can say the same thing about Innovation's TvT. He won against MvP in the world final by being a better hellbat abuser in the match up. (I'm not downplaying his win, just an analogy ).


Mvp had a reputation for being boring. Then he had a reputation for being cheesy. It's only lately that he's been really charming all the nerd hearts.
maru G5L pls
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 24 2013 23:08 GMT
#37
reading this, I was all like "where is the pun on bomber's law, where is that pun, where the f*** is that - aaaaah, there it is."

Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
July 24 2013 23:16 GMT
#38
On July 25 2013 06:35 Nirel wrote:
What about the #1 rule of Bomber, Bomber will always disappoint. everything is pointing towards First winning except the Artosis curse, this is going to be a hard one to call.

I was just about to mention, let's not forget Artosis was sure & adamant that First could not lose against Bomber, because his PvT is so good. I feel the adequate criteria has been met for a full-on Artosis curse to take effect, and thus, I believe Bomber will be advancing to the RO4 over First.

I've been wanting to write-up a more rigorous model/understanding of the "Artosis curse", but I think the main factor influencing whether the Artosis curse will take effect is:

-- "How sure does Artosis seem?"
(with special consideration to whether the general SC2 community opinion is in agreement or not)

It appears that the more sure that Artosis is, the more likely it is the "curse" will take effect. However, this must be considered in relation to how contrary Artosis' opinion is to the general opinion of the SC2 community.

For example, Artosis being sure that InnoVation will win a particular finals or match - when most of the SC2 community is also quite sure - means a weaker Artosis curse (or none at all).

But Artosis being sure of something when most of the SC2 community would be wondering why he's so sure = all signs point towards an incoming Artosis curse.
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mdamda
Profile Joined November 2011
63 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 23:40:18
July 24 2013 23:39 GMT
#39
The Starleague Ro8 continues as defending champion Rain goes up against SuperNoVa, while Bomber faces SuperNoVa!


Mods/writers, you may want to edit this.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
July 24 2013 23:45 GMT
#40
On July 25 2013 08:39 mdamda wrote:
Show nested quote +
The Starleague Ro8 continues as defending champion Rain goes up against SuperNoVa, while Bomber faces SuperNoVa!


Mods/writers, you may want to edit this.


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Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
July 24 2013 23:45 GMT
#41
Thanks for the write up. It was a great read.
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althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
July 24 2013 23:49 GMT
#42
On July 25 2013 07:54 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 07:21 painkilla wrote:
On July 25 2013 07:11 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 07:04 TheRavensName wrote:
On July 25 2013 06:58 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 06:53 Steel wrote:
Nice write up monk

Would love to see Bomber and Supernova advance. Sure we'd have a Terran top 4 but I feel it wouldn't be undeserved. Plus Innovation is more likely to fall facing terran...

If Supernova makes the top 4 it is undeserved.

Innovation is the best and Maru and Bomber are playing amazing so I would be ok with that.


Supernova deserves it. Personally, Im actualyl said supernova is meeting rain. Cause I kinda dont care about either bomber or first and would rather see supernova v rain semi finals. Guess I'll just pull for bomber and supernova so I can have Terran supremacy.

He has gotten here by abusing hellbats, acv pulls and all inning

I hope Rain beats him 3-0 and then builds 30 manner nexuses


There is nothing wrong with using a strategy that works (Parting's soul push?). Mvp beat a lot of protosses in GSL with scv pulls and he got praises for it.
We can say the same thing about Innovation's TvT. He won against MvP in the world final by being a better hellbat abuser in the match up. (I'm not downplaying his win, just an analogy ).


Mvp had a reputation for being boring. Then he had a reputation for being cheesy. It's only lately that he's been really charming all the nerd hearts.

That's because now he has a reputation for not having any wrists.
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 23:59:43
July 24 2013 23:59 GMT
#43
On July 25 2013 08:49 althaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 07:54 neptunusfisk wrote:
On July 25 2013 07:21 painkilla wrote:
On July 25 2013 07:11 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 07:04 TheRavensName wrote:
On July 25 2013 06:58 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 25 2013 06:53 Steel wrote:
Nice write up monk

Would love to see Bomber and Supernova advance. Sure we'd have a Terran top 4 but I feel it wouldn't be undeserved. Plus Innovation is more likely to fall facing terran...

If Supernova makes the top 4 it is undeserved.

Innovation is the best and Maru and Bomber are playing amazing so I would be ok with that.


Supernova deserves it. Personally, Im actualyl said supernova is meeting rain. Cause I kinda dont care about either bomber or first and would rather see supernova v rain semi finals. Guess I'll just pull for bomber and supernova so I can have Terran supremacy.

He has gotten here by abusing hellbats, acv pulls and all inning

I hope Rain beats him 3-0 and then builds 30 manner nexuses


There is nothing wrong with using a strategy that works (Parting's soul push?). Mvp beat a lot of protosses in GSL with scv pulls and he got praises for it.
We can say the same thing about Innovation's TvT. He won against MvP in the world final by being a better hellbat abuser in the match up. (I'm not downplaying his win, just an analogy ).


Mvp had a reputation for being boring. Then he had a reputation for being cheesy. It's only lately that he's been really charming all the nerd hearts.

That's because now he has a reputation for not having any wrists.

Now that you mention it, he did start gaining in popularity for being consistently good with broken wrists.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 00:10:53
July 25 2013 00:09 GMT
#44
reminds me of early nada in 2000

he was clearly the best player in the world by leaps and bounds but people liked the flawed Boxer better (bad bad macro) because he seemed more human

I feel like Nada was more appreciated the more he showed what a freak of nature he was, being a championship winning player for over 8 yaers
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
July 25 2013 00:21 GMT
#45
I'm hoping for a rain vs innovation finals
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 25 2013 00:45 GMT
#46
On July 25 2013 09:09 Waxangel wrote:
reminds me of early nada in 2000

he was clearly the best player in the world by leaps and bounds but people liked the flawed Boxer better (bad bad macro) because he seemed more human

I feel like Nada was more appreciated the more he showed what a freak of nature he was, being a championship winning player for over 8 yaers

Don't forget that NaDa got hotter as he aged.
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 00:56:09
July 25 2013 00:55 GMT
#47
On July 25 2013 09:45 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 09:09 Waxangel wrote:
reminds me of early nada in 2000

he was clearly the best player in the world by leaps and bounds but people liked the flawed Boxer better (bad bad macro) because he seemed more human

I feel like Nada was more appreciated the more he showed what a freak of nature he was, being a championship winning player for over 8 yaers

Don't forget that NaDa got hotter as he aged.

Flash > Nada in hotness
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 25 2013 01:10 GMT
#48
On July 25 2013 09:55 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 09:45 babylon wrote:
On July 25 2013 09:09 Waxangel wrote:
reminds me of early nada in 2000

he was clearly the best player in the world by leaps and bounds but people liked the flawed Boxer better (bad bad macro) because he seemed more human

I feel like Nada was more appreciated the more he showed what a freak of nature he was, being a championship winning player for over 8 yaers

Don't forget that NaDa got hotter as he aged.

Flash > Nada in hotness

not as good of a body though
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 25 2013 01:32 GMT
#49
Bomber v. First will be an absolute treat. Bomber has bonerific TvP and first has sick PvT
#TheOneTrueDong
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
July 25 2013 01:38 GMT
#50
I want Rain to win, and between First and Bomber... I don't know.. I like both players, so I just hope a great series between them !
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 25 2013 01:47 GMT
#51
rain and bomber would be cool
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
July 25 2013 02:07 GMT
#52
It will be interesting if we get to see a PvP semifinal.
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
July 25 2013 02:53 GMT
#53
TL is crazy man. Rain may well beat SuperNova but First will THRASH Bomber.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 25 2013 02:55 GMT
#54
Gogo bomber and rain I want to meet you at games com!!!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 25 2013 03:01 GMT
#55
3-2 First.

3-0owned Rain
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
July 25 2013 03:13 GMT
#56
If this is PvT finals it will be (P)Rain vs (T)INnoVation. If this is TvT Finals then it's going to be (T)INnoVation vs (T)Bomber.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 25 2013 03:36 GMT
#57
SuperNoVa and First
rip prime
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2055 Posts
July 25 2013 03:50 GMT
#58
There's a mistake in the article, claiming that the last time Bomber reached ro8 was in 2011 which is not the case. In WCS Korea S1 Bomber made ro8 and was defeated by Symbol.
shashk0
Profile Joined May 2013
3 Posts
July 25 2013 04:41 GMT
#59
3-1 First.
LG-IM MVP
TheNoob69
Profile Joined July 2013
Singapore102 Posts
July 25 2013 05:09 GMT
#60
in b4 all terran semis
MVP Hwaiting
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
July 25 2013 06:05 GMT
#61
Maru and First are the only royal roaders in current OSL?

Or Supernova, too?
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
July 25 2013 06:52 GMT
#62
On July 25 2013 15:05 DidYuhim wrote:
Maru and First are the only royal roaders in current OSL?

Or Supernova, too?


Bomber I think too?
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Kingsky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore298 Posts
July 25 2013 07:08 GMT
#63
inno vs rain finals!
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
July 25 2013 08:51 GMT
#64
I really hope Bomber's law will not go into effect tonight.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
July 25 2013 11:10 GMT
#65
On July 25 2013 15:05 DidYuhim wrote:
Maru and First are the only royal roaders in current OSL?

Or Supernova, too?

Supernova has been round of 8 gsl a few times, and I think Maru has been code S before too but maybe I am wrong. AFAIK first is the only one
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 25 2013 11:45 GMT
#66
On July 25 2013 20:10 Yamulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 15:05 DidYuhim wrote:
Maru and First are the only royal roaders in current OSL?

Or Supernova, too?

Supernova has been round of 8 gsl a few times, and I think Maru has been code S before too but maybe I am wrong. AFAIK first is the only one

OSL is not GSL though
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Shibunbundit
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria22 Posts
July 25 2013 12:17 GMT
#67
On July 22 2013 21:00 Shibunbundit wrote:
Bomber will take First, then RaiNnoVation. Go Bomber!


First part is done! RaiNnoVaton next! Go Bomber!
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
July 25 2013 14:11 GMT
#68
First is the only one who's never been in Code S or OSL. Maru, Bomber has never been in OSL but had been in multiple Code S's, I guess they can still be considered potential royal roaders in the OSL.

Glad Rain won today but Bomber was so dominating, next match is gonna be tough ><
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
July 25 2013 15:00 GMT
#69
This OSL is for (P)Rain. This OSL isn't for (T)INnoVation, no, not really.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 25 2013 17:22 GMT
#70
Kaboooooooom Baby. You jost got bombed.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
hellodee
Profile Joined January 2013
19 Posts
July 25 2013 18:09 GMT
#71
Rain... I hope you win. ily
King
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
July 25 2013 18:13 GMT
#72


Called out!
hellodee
Profile Joined January 2013
19 Posts
July 25 2013 18:45 GMT
#73


made me even giggle more
King
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
July 25 2013 19:45 GMT
#74
On July 26 2013 03:45 hellodee wrote:
https://twitter.com/Startale_Bomber/status/360453282688282624

made me even giggle more

I wasn't aware that KRs are so keen on what Artosis says :D
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
July 25 2013 19:45 GMT
#75
Misspelled ForGGeddon :D
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