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[SPL] Playoffs - STX vs. SKT - Match 1 Preview

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July 12th, 2013 19:14 GMT

SKPlanet PRoleague

Table of Contents



STX vs SKT
Head to head this season


Match 1 Preview
Line-Up Analysis


SK Planet Proleague table and results at Liquipedia

Round One: STX vs. SKT


By: Wunder

The long regular season is over, and the playoffs are finally upon us!

The first round of the playoffs pits the third place STX Soul against fourth place SK Telecom T1. The matches will be played in the standard Proleague format, except that they will play up to three matches over four days in best of three series. In short, the first team to win two Bo7 matches will advance to the next round.

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The overall playoff format works out so that the teams are seeded into the playoffs in order of regular season finish, and there's a chain of matches working up from the bottom. Thus, first place team Woongjin Stars already has a spot in the finals, where they await to see which challenger can fight their way up from the bottom.

Alright, let's get on with the preview!

STX vs. SKT: Head to Head

WoL


Round 1
(P)Dear < Caldeum > (P)Bisu
(P)Trap <Cloud Kingdom> (Z)soO
(T)Last <Antiga Shipyard> (Z)Sacsri
(T)INnoVation <Ohana> (P)Rain
(Z)hyvaa < Bifrost > (P)BeSt
(T)Classic < Arkanoid > (T)Fantasy
Ace: (P)Trap < Planet S > (P)Rain

SK Telecom T1 wins 4-3!

Round 2
(P)BeSt <Ohana> (T)Last
(Z)soO <Antiga Shipyard> (T)Last
(Z)soO <Planet S> (T)INnoVation
(T)Fantasy <Bifrost> (T)INnoVation
(T)Fantasy <Caldeum> (P)Trap
(T)Fantasy <Cloud Kingdom> (P)Dear
<Entombed Valley>

SK Telecom T1 wins 4-2!

Round 3
(Z)s2 < Neo Arkanoid > (T)Last
(T)sorry < Entombed Valley > (T)INnoVation
(P)ParalyzE < Cloud Kingdom > (P)Mini
(P)Rain < Neo Planet S > (P)Trap
(Z)Sacsri < Akilon Flats > (Z)hyvaa
(Z)soO < Caldeum 3 > (Z)Size
Ace: Antiga Shipyard

SK Telecom T1 wins 4-2!

HotS


Round 4
(Z)hyvaa < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (T)FanTaSy
(P)Classic < Fighting Spirit > (P)Bisu
(T)Last < Akilon Wastes > (P)Rain
(T)INnoVation < Whirlwind LE > (P)PartinG
(P)Dear < Naro Station > (Z)Sacsri
(P)Trap < Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct > (Z)Dark
Ace: < Korhal Floating Island >

STX Soul Wins 4-2!

Round 5
(P)Brown <Neo Planet S> (Z)hyvaa
(P)Brown <Whirlwind> (P)Dear
(Z)soO <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Dear
(T)FanTaSy <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> (P)Dear
(T)FanTaSy <New Fighting Spirit> (P)Classic
(P)Rain <Naro Station> (P)Classic
(P)Rain <Akilon Wastes> (T)INnoVation

SK Telecom T1 wins 4-3!

Round 6
(P)Trap <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> (P)PartinG
(P)Dear <Whirlwind> (Z)soO
(P)Mini <Naro Station> (P)Brown
(Z)hyvaa <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Bisu
(T)INnoVation <Korhal Floating Island> (T)FanTaSy
(P)Classic <Neo Planet S> (P)Rain
Ace: <New Fighting Spirit>

STX Soul wins 4-2!


The first three rounds of Proleague were rough on STX Soul, and it shows in their match history against SKT. They got smashed down 3-0 in the Wings of Liberty portion of the season, with Innovation being the only player to win his game in every match. The only other contributor worth noting is probably Last, who was constantly in Innovation’s shadow throughout Wings of Liberty and has now fallen off the map as STX opted for a more Protoss-centric lineup in the wake of the expansion.

While STX Soul wasn’t doing fantastic against SKT, they actually had a good final WoL round, finishing 3rd in the standings. However, because of an abysmal performance in the first two rounds, they had to keep improving if they wanted to rise through the ranks faster. Improve they did as not only did Classic switch races to Protoss, their other Protoss players got better as well! WIth new units like the mothership core and the oracle to play around with, Protoss players took the first round of HotS by storm, taking their first win against SKT 4-2.

Round five went the other way once again, with SKT taking out STX in the second all-kill round. This time, it was Classic and Dear who lead the charge, leading the series 3-2 before Rain stepped into the ring and demolished Classic in a memorable PvP. He went on to face Innovation in the ace match and while Innovation was already nearing the level of play he displays today, Rain managed to take the Terran by surprise with an old school 2 base colossus bust, ending STX’s dream of evening out their head to head score.

Fast forward to the last round, and STX Soul put themselves into a solid position sitting neck and neck with their rivals in orange. They went into their final rematch of the regular season in top form and out for revenge, as both Innovation and Classic sought vengeance for the times they’ve been wronged. Innovation managed to dismantle FanTaSy in a clutch TvT while Classic closed the series out by learning from his past mistakes and destroyed Rain in a macro PvP.

So while STX Soul is on the losing end of the head to head score with a 2 - 4 deficit, they did win their last engagement fairly convincingly and are definitely the team with the momentum in this first match. Now that we’ve taken a look at how they got here, let’s take a look at the games for the first set!


Match 1 Preview



(T)INnoVation <Neo Planet S> (P)BeSt
(P)Dear <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)Rain
(P)Mini <Naro Station SE> (P)PartinG
(P)Classic <Akilon Wastes> (T)FanTaSy
(Z)hyvaa <Neo Fighting Spirit> (Z)soO
(P)Trap <Whirlwind> (P)Bisu
Ace: <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct>


At a glance, it looks like the first day of games aren’t giving us any spectacular match-ups, with Dear vs Rain being the most hotly contested game. With four mirrors, it’s relatively par for the course, especially in Proleague -- nevertheless, these are still top tier players and there is always the draw of the elusive ace match lurking in the shadows.

(T)STX_INnoVation <Neo Planet S> (P)SKT_BeSt
In the game that kicks off the playoffs, Innovation managed to get SKT’s ailing captain as his first target. Needless to say, Innovation will most likely stomp through BeSt, with the SKT Protoss barely getting more than one televised match a month, Innovation is just on a completely different level in regards to raw skill and power. However, that isn’t to say that BeSt is completely out of the game - Innovation has shown weakness in the past, and his greed has cost him a number of games. BeSt’s best bet would be to prepare a very specific cheese to capitalize on this singular aspect of INnoVation's game.

(P)STX_Dear <Bel'Shir Vestige> (P)SKT_Rain
Playing on STX Soul definitely has its perks, but it also comes with the fact that no matter who you are, you will almost always be under Innovation’s shadow. This is the case with Dear, STX Soul’s second-in-command and one of the more underrated Protoss players out there. While not as accomplished as Rain, Dear still boasts a number of high profile PvP wins, besting players like Stats, Argo and Jangbi. Meanwhile, Rain’s last two PvPs have ended in disaster, losing 2-0 to LG-IM’s First and his last Proleague match to Team 8’s Pigbaby. So though many might see Rain as the clear favorite, Dear has shown he has the chops to take down giants, just as Rain is looking his most vulnerable.

(P)STX_Mini <Naro Station SE> (P)SKT_PartinG
Ah, PartinG. The black sheep of SKT, PartinG has managed to wedge himself inside the line-up using his past accomplishments as well as his raw skill. When it comes to PvP, PartinG has fared better than Rain, with a 64% win rate in PvProleague games. However, Mini also boasts a strong PvP winrate, with wins over players like sOs, Zest and HerO under his belt, so he's no slouch when it comes to sniping great Protosses. While PartinG may have a fight on his hands, he should still be able to close out this game for SKT.

(P)STX_Classic <Akilon Wastes> (T)SKT_FanTaSy
On the topic of getting revenge for past mistakes, yet another classic blunder that Classic made harkens back to his Terran days, in the first round of Proleague. On Arkanoid (the rock map), Classic managed to secure a huge lead by going mech against Fantasy’s bio and securing good tank positions and started a huge contain on Fantasy’s base. With the never-give-up attitude that Fantasy possesses, he managed to outwit and outmaneuver Classic’s army and with some brilliant flanks managed to pull himself back into the game and from there Classic crumbled under the drop harass of Fantasy. Having already gotten back at Rain for humiliating him in a PvP, Classic will no doubt try to set things straight, this time in a PvT rematch -- whether or not Fantasy can stand up to Classic’s revitalized spirit is the remaining question heading into this game.

(Z)STX_hyvaa <Neo Fighting Spirit> (Z)SKT_soO
Probably the Zerg who has received the most hate as of late, Hyvaa has been labelled one of the cheesier players in pro StarCraft. Having already broken the hearts of SKT fans once this week, hyvaa will look to tip the scales once again by taking out resident Zerg SoO. While SKT Zergs haven’t been performing as well as their Protoss and Terran counterparts, both s2 and SoO have had reasonable performances as of late. Though it’s hard to call, SoO has shown strong ZvZ while most of hyvaa’s ZvZ have been hyper-aggressive, so SoO should look to play a safe and defensive style if he wants to survive hyvaa’s onslaught.

(P)STX_Trap <Whirlwind> (P)SKT_Bisu
The long lost prince, Bisu has recently come into a renaissance as of late, with a huge win over Jangbi in round 6. Meanwhile Trap has been doing fairly well in the individual leagues, with a 1-1 standing in the Ro16 of WCS Korea. Though he hasn’t played many PvPs as of late, his Wings of Liberty PvP was admirable, with wins over Rain and Jangbi in the last few weeks of round 3. While it would be nice to call a Bisu win outright, it just isn’t as simple as that, and Bisu will have to work extremely hard if he wants to beat a Protoss of Trap’s caliber.

Ace Match: <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct>
While an ace match isn't guaranteed, the allure and excitement that a 7th game brings is too much to not write about. So the first and probably most important factor of this ace match in deciding who gets picked is the map. Because we're playing on Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct, one of the more Terran favored maps in the pool, the likelihood of SKT picking Rain is diminished. Couple that with the fact that SKT has fielded FanTaSy before and it makes it possible that they could spring a surprise FanTaSy pick on STX and the viewers. However, there is of course the danger of Innovation's TvT as well as the recent changes to hellbats which will no doubt have deep repercussions to the match up.

Nevertheless, the promise of a showdown between Innovation and Rain is inevitable and SKT may just take the hit and send Rain out with a very specific build catered to this map. If Rain is sent out, he'll not only have a hard time dealing with the layout of the map, but Innovation's raw power as well. He managed to deflect it last time on Akilon Wastes with a well executed all-in that capitalized on Innovation's bare bones defense and smashed through the Terran easily. If Innovation hasn't fixed that hole in his armor, Rain will no doubt be able to exploit it once again. But if the gamble fails, it could spell disaster for Rain and SKT's immediate future.

Predictions

With some extremely tight match-ups, this first set is quite hard to call. In one instance, it would be quite easy to see Rain and Fantasy pull out their top form and crush their opponents, but both players have shown inconsistency as of late and that is something that can’t be dismissed out of hand. With that in mind, I can see this going into an ace match quite easily, which brings us to the question of what that match-up would be. With Innovation showing such dominance in TvT, it may be safe to assume that Fantasy will probably be out of the running as a contender, which only leaves Rain and PartinG. In most cases, Rain would be a no brainer as he has the most experience in dealing with the crushing pressure of an ace match. There's also the surprise option of PartinG, who despite his recent PvZ woes, is still a powerful player against Terran and Protoss.

Innovation > BeSt
Dear > Rain
Mini < PartinG
Classic < Fantasy
Hyvaa < SoO
Trap > Bisu
Ace: Innovation > Rain

STX Soul beats SK Telecom T1 4 - 3 in the first set.


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Writers: Wunder.
Graphics: HawaiianPig
Editors: monk, Waxangel.
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DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
July 12 2013 19:20 GMT
#2
I thought that Trap holds the "STX prince" title.

Nice preview~, gonna get some good matches to entertain myself.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
July 12 2013 19:22 GMT
#3
Innovation will carry as usual
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
July 12 2013 19:26 GMT
#4
The TL writers used to be more SKT nuetral. Now I see they are a bunch of antifans. Well, haters gonna hate. So hate on a decades worth of greatness.
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Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
July 12 2013 19:27 GMT
#5
No. SKT1 has this.
thepaz
Profile Joined June 2011
France31 Posts
July 12 2013 19:28 GMT
#6
Innovation > BeSt
Dear < Rain
Mini < PartinG
Classic > Fantasy
Hyvaa < SoO
Trap < Bisu
Ace: none
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
July 12 2013 19:31 GMT
#7
Innovation > BeSt
Dear > Rain
Mini >PartinG
Classic < Fantasy
Hyvaa < SoO
Trap <Bisu
Ace: Innovation > Rain

Mini being doing great so far but i think the results will still be the same with the exception that Bisu will win and Mini will Lose.
Flash should fear Sacsri
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
July 12 2013 19:33 GMT
#8
Parting and/or Soo will fuck up for whatever reason.
4-1 or 4-2 STX.
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YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
July 12 2013 19:34 GMT
#9
On July 13 2013 04:26 BisuDagger wrote:
The TL writers used to be more SKT nuetral. Now I see they are a bunch of antifans. Well, haters gonna hate. So hate on a decades worth of greatness.


Glad a completely neutral person poster this

GO SKT you got this. I think this will be a great series
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
July 12 2013 19:35 GMT
#10
SKT 4-2
maybe 4-3
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BnBTaurveus
Profile Joined April 2011
United States14 Posts
July 12 2013 19:36 GMT
#11
Innovation > BeSt
Dear < Rain
Mini < PartinG
Classic > Fantasy
Hyvaa < SoO
Trap < Bisu
Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
July 12 2013 19:36 GMT
#12
Bisu beats Innovation in the ace match and Teamliquid.net crumbles under the awesomeness.

More seriously; SKT to edge it.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33487 Posts
July 12 2013 19:36 GMT
#13
On July 13 2013 04:26 BisuDagger wrote:
The TL writers used to be more SKT nuetral. Now I see they are a bunch of antifans. Well, haters gonna hate. So hate on a decades worth of greatness.


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GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
July 12 2013 19:42 GMT
#14
SKT1 HWAITING
I BELIEVE
High Diamond/ Low Masters :^)
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 19:44:28
July 12 2013 19:42 GMT
#15
On July 13 2013 04:26 BisuDagger wrote:
The TL writers used to be more SKT nuetral. Now I see they are a bunch of antifans. Well, haters gonna hate. So hate on a decades worth of greatness.


Yeah, I liked it more this way.

Also we need Kiett to draw more Bisu, it worked last time.
prabhbhambra13
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom424 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 19:48:48
July 12 2013 19:46 GMT
#16
On July 13 2013 04:26 BisuDagger wrote:
The TL writers used to be more SKT nuetral. Now I see they are a bunch of antifans. Well, haters gonna hate. So hate on a decades worth of greatness.


antis gonna anti (that makes no sense but whatever)

I agree with the predictions except for:

Dear<Rain

and if it goes to the ace match i think:

Innovation<Rain (Rain's PvT is incredible and the hellbat nerf will hurt Innovation)
or
Innovation<Bisu (Bisu has been under performing all season on purpose so that he can be used as a hidden weapon which no one will be able to counter)

also, Trap vs Bisu is hard to call. If the Taek Shin comes out then Bisu will take it.
SECO SECO SECO
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
July 12 2013 19:59 GMT
#17
so prediction says 3/4 of SKT's protosses will lose.
Rain does have a killer pvt though
we shall see
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banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
July 12 2013 19:59 GMT
#18
On July 13 2013 04:33 ymir233 wrote:
Parting and/or Soo will fuck up for whatever reason.
4-1 or 4-2 STX.


I really hope you're wrong, but I have a feeling you are right. PvP is so coin flippy sometimes that it could be totally possible PartinG loses by build order default. He has really liked Twilight tech in his recent PvP's, about even between DT and Blink, so if Mini does some research he might be safe and do something like a robo expand, which could be really hard for PartinG to overcome with such a huge disadvantage unless he can exploit the weaknesses in that. PartinG is definitely good enough to do that, and his PvP has been really good, but I feel like this could be the surprise story if Mini comes out prepared for PartinG, who is known for his phenomenal mechanics and micro, part of the reason he likes his all-ins so much. I agree that Innovation will probably take the ace match though, I don't see how anybody on SKT1 can beat him on Newkirk with the threat of drops and that forward-positioned third base for his signature endless stream of units. But go PartinG and go STK1!!!!!!!!!
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DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
July 12 2013 19:59 GMT
#19
On July 13 2013 04:46 prabhbhambra13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 04:26 BisuDagger wrote:
The TL writers used to be more SKT nuetral. Now I see they are a bunch of antifans. Well, haters gonna hate. So hate on a decades worth of greatness.

Innovation<Rain (Rain's PvT is incredible and the hellbat nerf will hurt Innovation).

Let's not go this way, pretty please~
imEnex
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
July 12 2013 20:01 GMT
#20
4:3 SKT1
Program yourself to Success
panzercrusher
Profile Joined April 2013
Poland457 Posts
July 12 2013 20:17 GMT
#21
I want SKT vs KT so badly...
I never asked for this
Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
July 12 2013 20:18 GMT
#22
Innovation > BeSt
Dear > Rain
Mini > PartinG
Classic < Fantasy
Hyvaa < SoO
Trap > Bisu (I don't know really, i think Bisu can win but Trap is kind of my dark horse since forever)

If Bisu wins (or someone else "supposed" to lose) I can't really see someone beating Bogus in the Ace match. And it's hard for me to tell if the hellbat nerf will hurt INnoVation or just make him more unpredictable thus even more dangerous with some twisted banshee play.

So for me, unless a major upset STX can win this.
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Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
July 12 2013 20:19 GMT
#23
horrible time for europe
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
July 12 2013 20:26 GMT
#24
On July 13 2013 05:19 Kitaen wrote:
horrible time for europe

i know, they should change their hours cuz the majority of ppl who watch are from europe or usa anyway.
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Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
July 12 2013 20:30 GMT
#25
4:3 STX
emanresU
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany393 Posts
July 12 2013 20:39 GMT
#26
Come on Bisu !
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 20:42:58
July 12 2013 20:42 GMT
#27
On July 13 2013 05:18 Ornithorynquez wrote:
If Bisu wins (or someone else "supposed" to lose) I can't really see someone beating Bogus in the Ace match.


I would put whoever SKT sends as a favorite for the ace match. These players have played in multiple league finals, and played when everything was on the line for the team more times than they can count.

That matters more than anything in playoffs ace matches where it's only a single game that counts. You can rank highly in the individual leagues and be able to take BO7s off of anyone, only to get proxy gated in the ace match and choke and crumble like a baby.
SFHyper
Profile Joined July 2013
United Kingdom45 Posts
July 12 2013 20:42 GMT
#28
I won't be watching that, shame the hours are so awkward.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
July 12 2013 20:49 GMT
#29
4:1 STX

Ez
ladysman09
Profile Joined June 2013
237 Posts
July 12 2013 20:53 GMT
#30
Will it be this format until the end or will they do the all-kill format later?
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
July 12 2013 21:03 GMT
#31
There was lack of innovation in the main page. Glad that it's fixed now.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
July 12 2013 21:21 GMT
#32
On July 13 2013 04:26 BisuDagger wrote:
The TL writers used to be more SKT nuetral. Now I see they are a bunch of antifans. Well, haters gonna hate. So hate on a decades worth of greatness.

Bisu gonna make it 4-2
not Rain making it 4-3
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hidetoaizen
Profile Joined January 2013
Norway460 Posts
July 12 2013 21:23 GMT
#33
On July 13 2013 04:28 thepaz wrote:
Innovation > BeSt
Dear < Rain
Mini < PartinG
Classic > Fantasy
Hyvaa < SoO
Trap < Bisu
Ace: none


i have no problem seeing this as the result :D

Go SKT
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Profile Joined August 2010
United States17691 Posts
July 12 2013 21:49 GMT
#34
PROTOSS
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Brazil1224 Posts
July 12 2013 21:53 GMT
#35
SKT. Any doubt?
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
July 12 2013 21:57 GMT
#36
The front page picture looks like something Waxangel would use as a twitter background.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 12 2013 22:12 GMT
#37
Innovation > BeSt
Dear > Rain
Mini > PartinG
Classic > Fantasy

SKT EZcom T1
can i get my estro logo back pls
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
July 12 2013 22:17 GMT
#38
On July 13 2013 04:42 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 04:26 BisuDagger wrote:
The TL writers used to be more SKT nuetral. Now I see they are a bunch of antifans. Well, haters gonna hate. So hate on a decades worth of greatness.


Yeah, I liked it more this way.

Also we need Kiett to draw more Bisu, it worked last time.

That was amazing :D Hahahaha!
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Elucidate
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
205 Posts
July 12 2013 22:25 GMT
#39
On July 13 2013 04:26 BisuDagger wrote:
The TL writers used to be more SKT nuetral. Now I see they are a bunch of antifans. Well, haters gonna hate. So hate on a decades worth of greatness.


Not so much anti-SKT1 but more of not overly laudatory. Calling what you see doesn't trend either direction.
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ARze
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia45 Posts
July 12 2013 22:35 GMT
#40
nice article, wunder fighting!
Tarheels
Profile Joined April 2013
United States55 Posts
July 12 2013 23:38 GMT
#41
Innovation > BeSt
Dear < Rain
Mini < PartinG
Classic < Fantasy
Hyvaa > SoO
Trap < Bisu

I think Rain can pull the win against Dear, he is looking very strong.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 12 2013 23:46 GMT
#42
I think that is the most emotion innovation has ever shown on that photo on the TL homepage
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
July 13 2013 00:02 GMT
#43
On July 13 2013 08:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
I think that is the most emotion innovation has ever shown on that photo on the TL homepage


i cried when seeing that, a true moment of pure joy captured on a photograph
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SneX
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden377 Posts
July 13 2013 00:58 GMT
#44
SKT T1 in a Mini-slump and barely made the playoffs, soO I think STX SouL got this. Gogo INnoVation and Dear.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 13 2013 01:52 GMT
#45
STXSouL>SKT yo
rip prime
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
July 13 2013 02:21 GMT
#46
INnoVation > BeSt
Dear > Rain
mini < PartinG
Classic < FanTasy
hyvaa < soO
Trap > Bisu

Ace: INnoVation < FanTasy

My predictions
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
TLNocturnal
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada1 Post
July 13 2013 03:08 GMT
#47
Woo! So excited! I love both teams. Parting and Dear two of my favourites. But if I had to pick 1 team..... SKTT1 GOGO FIGHTING!
Liquid'HerO, PartinG, HuK, puCK. <3
Gre3n
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada8 Posts
July 13 2013 05:44 GMT
#48
So few Zerg
Guileful
Profile Joined November 2012
Kazakhstan137 Posts
July 13 2013 08:09 GMT
#49
Where's Flash?! On orginal photo he was there!111
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 13 2013 09:20 GMT
#50
Was there any reason that the countdown was saying 'in 363 days' for me? o.0
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
July 13 2013 10:34 GMT
#51
On July 13 2013 04:26 BisuDagger wrote:
The TL writers used to be more SKT nuetral. Now I see they are a bunch of antifans. Well, haters gonna hate. So hate on a decades worth of greatness.

There is more than one decade of greatness? Or of anything?

Also there is no antifan content: the SKT lineup in just lacks quality in HotS. They have no real star and it's hard to even point out who is rock solid player on their roster. Unlike all other teams in playoffs.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
July 13 2013 10:40 GMT
#52
You guys take casual fan banter far too seriously.

Anyhow, STX's rock solid player lost to BeSt.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
July 13 2013 10:56 GMT
#53
On July 13 2013 19:40 Talin wrote:
You guys take casual fan banter far too seriously.

Anyhow, STX's rock solid player lost to BeSt.

And won against Fantasy in ace match. Rock solid doesn't mean 100% winrate
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
July 13 2013 12:52 GMT
#54
InNoVation won all his games lol
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 14:42:46
July 13 2013 14:42 GMT
#55
On July 13 2013 19:56 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 19:40 Talin wrote:
You guys take casual fan banter far too seriously.

Anyhow, STX's rock solid player lost to BeSt.

And won against Fantasy in ace match. Rock solid doesn't mean 100% winrate


Nope, but it does imply the player should be able to routinely beat down opponents he's heavily favored to win against.

It just goes to say that he's beatable by anyone on T1, and will get beaten down tomorrow and on the final day.
nktiep
Profile Joined December 2010
Vietnam40 Posts
July 13 2013 15:42 GMT
#56
Innovation > BeSt
Dear < Rain
Mini < PartinG
Classic < Fantasy
Hyvaa > SoO
Trap > Bisu

ace match Innovation < Rain

gogo SKT1 <3
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