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On June 02 2013 07:21 KaiserCommander wrote: I told you all, "STOP MAKING SOULKEY THE UNDERDOG", because underdogs always win in the GSL... I'm still sad... why? why?... i feel you brother :p | ||
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Ponera
Canada596 Posts
it felt rigged. | ||
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StarStruck
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On June 02 2013 07:21 KaiserCommander wrote: I told you all, "STOP MAKING SOULKEY THE UNDERDOG", because underdogs always win in the GSL... I'm still sad... why? why?... I have a problem with this because I wouldn't really call SK an underdog. Yes, Bogus has looked mightily good over the last few months in TvZ, but their all-time record is very close. Unfortunately I wish they delivered better games. I was caught scratching my head many times. In terms of suspense it somewhat delivered, but the games were dreadful when you actually look at them in detail in terms of execution. They were all pretty one-sided except for I think game 2, but even then we didn't get a whole lot of foreplay. I guess my favorite moment was when Soulkey popped Bogus' v j j. | ||
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SohcranA
United States36 Posts
On June 02 2013 11:04 Zinthar wrote: I think you're trying to glean far too much out of small sample sizes -- MKP & Squirtle were both one game away from being GSL champions. There's nothing particularly definitive about losing a championship by a 4-3 margin to conclude that guys like MKP, Squirtle, and Innovation are missing some sort of intangible like mental fortitude. There's always a certain degree of randomness in these matches. Take this GSL final for example: If Innovation had played Game 4 a little differently and won that match, everyone would be raving about the drubbing Innovation put on Soulkey. I accidentally spoiled myself as to the results of this finals before watching the VOD's, and because I already knew what was coming, I decided to try and pay attention to the visible emotion (or lack thereof, in some cases) shown by the players during the ebb and flow of this series. If anything, I think Innovation 'appeared' more composed (for what that's worth) as the the series swung against him. The ill-fated doom drop attempt in game 7 was quite reasonable when you consider that he probably thought he was losing after failing to do enough damage with the hellbats -- he saw a few mutas near Soulkey's base, but easily may have thought that they had moved. Perhaps he shouldn't have risked it in any event, but ultimately at this level the players have to take some calculated risks because you don't have perfect informtion about what your opponent is doing. On a side note, entertaining though they are, Tastosis are pretty bad about pushing this perception of recent GSL results being the absolute, final word on player skill. At the beginning of this GSL they had crowned Rain as the best Protoss in the world; then by the Ro8 they determined that it was definitively Parting. Aside from maybe the coaches and players on SK Telecom T1 who know them both very well, there's not enough data to say. Ok, fair, but when MVP has won his 5th GSL and MKP has failed to close out his nth bo7 and ends up in second place again, doesn't the sample size start to look pretty solid?  As silly as I find it for us mere mortals to criticize the gameplay of such giants, I really couldn't shake the feeling that Innovation played like he was getting tired in the latter games. | ||
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MysticaL
Canada118 Posts
He really should have added a tank to his builds lol :/ | ||
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KoRDragoon
Sweden63 Posts
On June 02 2013 07:21 KaiserCommander wrote: I told you all, "STOP MAKING SOULKEY THE UNDERDOG", because underdogs always win in the GSL... I'm still sad... why? why?... YES! I made him win!! | ||
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JeanieOwen73
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Oddball28
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larse
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shiftY803
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Like in poker for example - against a skilled opponent who knows you very well it can get very confusing to put the other player on the correct range. "He thinks that I will play a flush draw with ace over-card in a certain way, and I know this, but he knows I know this, and I know he knows I know this, etc." It can get pretty ridiculous. You look like a genius when things work out, but sometimes they do not. Watching the games live was fantastically exciting in any case, no matter how it seems if you skip through the VODs. What a comeback. | ||
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