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[MLG] Winter Showdowns - Week 1 Recap

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February 10th, 2013 23:07 GMT

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MLG Winter Showdowns



Week 1 Recaps
The KeSPA Koreans


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To HotS or not to HotS


The Winter Showdowns, MLG's invite-only qualifier for the Winter Championship in Dallas, started off with all KeSPA week featuring ten of the so-called 'elephants.' It soon became clear that the audience would have to wait if they wanted to see high level HotS, as the KeSPA players showed they still had WoL on their minds. With four of the players still in Code S, and all of the players still playing in the final WoL round of the Proleague, it wasn't all that surprising to see a relative lack of HotS knowledge.

Week 2 Games

Feb 10: (P)SaSe vs (Z)Snute
Feb 11: (Z)Nerchio vs (P)BabyKnight
Feb 12: (Z)Stephano vs (P)TitaN
Feb 13: (P)MaNa vs (Z)Bly
Feb 14: (T)ThorZaIN vs (P)Socke
Feb 15: (Z)Ret vs (P)Feast
RorO vs. herO took the cake in the "What's HotS?" department, but the two players made up for it by playing a very good WoL series, which was also the best series of the week (VODs). In all of the series, the player with more HotS knowledge ended up taking the win. Rain's realization that Void Rays are really good earned him a narrow 3 - 2 series win against Flying, while everyone who made hellbats ended up winning their series as well.

All in all, it was an entertaining week of matches, though perhaps not one you could take as seriously as PL or GSL as long as they are still being played in WoL. There was an especially quick GG from Soulkey that was hard not to read into, seeming an awful lot like a "f*** hellbat drops, I have better things to do" style surrender from a player who has a GSL Ro8 match looming. It will be interesting indeed to see how the KeSPA players step up their games by the time they fly into Dallas, and how much better prepared their eSF-Korean brethren will be when they play in the following weeks.

Week 1 Recaps: KeSPA Koreans

by: Kollin and Waxangel

(T)SKT_FanTaSy ( 0 – 3 ) (P)SKT_PartinG
VODs on Youtube

Fantasy < Entombed Valley > PartinG
Fantasy < Ohana > PartinG
Fantasy < Cloud Kingdom > PartinG

For the first time, SK Telecom T1's top Terran and top Protoss faced off against each other in tournament match. While it wasn't a live match, it would be the first 'official' tournament match between the teammates, and the first HotS match featuring KeSPA players as well.

It was fair to say that for all the special circumstances, the matches themselves were anticlimactic. In game one, Parting utilized the new and improved void rays to great effect, going for an all-in with two of the prismatically aligned fliers and a small ground army. Fantasy's two bunkers fell in record time, as did the rest of his army soon after. Game two also saw PartinG go for stargate play, this time choosing to devastate Fantasy's economy with oracles. Despite doing his best, Fantasy couldn't come back from his early deficit, and GG'd out to PartinG's mid game chargelot-templar army.

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PartinG's still got his storms, and Fantasy still has his marine micro T_T.

With Fantasy on the brink of losing and losing out on a potential MLG Dallas spot, he decided to finally build one of the new units Terran units in HotS. However, fate was not on his side, and even though his widow mine drop pulverized Parting's worker line, the single widow mine he had left at home was not enough to stop the blink stalker-mothership core all in. After a tense sequence, Parting killed off Fantasy's final command center, winning himself a spot in the first offline HotS event.

PartinG thoughts: It was hard to tell if PartinG really knew what he was doing with his HotS units or if he was just destroying Fantasy due to being a better player in general. His void ray all-in might have worked even without the prismatic alignment, while his proxy-oracle didn't decide the game so much as his great management behind it. In any case, another solid win for PartinG, who seems to be on a roll whether he's playing WoL or HotS.



(Z)Samsung_RorO ( 2 – 3 ) (P)CJ_herO
VODs on Youtube

RorO < Akilon Wastes > HerO
RorO < Daybreak > HerO
RorO < Cloud Kingdom > HerO
RorO < Neo Planet S > HerO
RorO < Neo Bifrost > HerO

The second match of the MLG Winter Season Showdowns proved to be more interesting than the first. As with Parting vs. Fantasy, it looked like one player had tried out HotS to some degree while the other had barely touched it. However, in this case, it didn't lead to a one-sided defeat for the player who tried to play a more WoL centered game.

In this case, the luddite was the famous anti-team killer Roro. At no point in any of the games did he even attempt to build a HotS unit, instead sticking to entirely WoL compositions. RorO did manage to benefit unintentionally, however, with his mutalisk based play getting a boost from the speed buff. herO didn't seem very HotS inclined either, but he at least made more than one HotS unit.

Game one saw RorO open with an early pool into two base mutalisks, both of which were deftly deflected by herO. The CJ Entus’ Protoss then proceeded to attack with colossi off two bases, crushing an opponent who had vainly sacrificed economy for early aggression. The next game started out more traditionally, both players building up their economies off three bases. Roro began to mass a huge amount of mutalisks, upwards of forty, and as soon as herO chose to move out he immediately swung in and forced an impromptu base trade scenario. A huge amount of spine crawlers guarded the Zerg player’s last base, and herO GG'd out as soon as he realized he could not rebuild nearly as fast.

Game three was where we got to see the difference between the two players, with Roro showing that he had barely practiced HotS, whereas herO showed that he at least knew the new units existed. The game looked exactly like a WoL game in terms of how it progressed, right until it got to the point where Roro had massed an almost undefeatable brood lord infestor army. HerO realized his army without vortex could not possibly contest it, so transitioned into 'skytoss.' However, just mixing in a handful of tempests does not make a successful skytoss composition, and herO was forced to GG out to swarms of corruptors.

The fourth game went back to following WoL patterns, with herO winning with a two base blink-stalker all-in. Roro seemed to have the game in the bag after defending well initially, but a momentary lapse allowed herO to take the game with sheer force of micro.

The final game was played in a familiar setting on the ProLeague map Bifrost. The backdoor entrance moved herO to open with an unorthodox gateway expand and Roro went forth normally, getting 3 bases and infestor tech. After a brief period of mutalisk harass, which was nicely shut down by herO’s beloved phoenix play, the game transitioned into a late game stalemate. Roro hid behind an Amazon Rainforest of spine crawler walls (incidentally, he happened to be on the icy half of the map), which made any sort of attack daunting for herO. The game was decided when RorO went in to herO's natural with his brood lords, only to be crushed by a combined force of stalkers, colossi, void rays (herO did not even realize prismatic alignment existed), and templar. HerO quickly capitalized with a counter-attack, cutting through the spine crawlers in record time and forcing RorO's surrender.

Rolling along: Despite this being a HotS match, it might be better to think of this as a pretty entertaining WoL series. HerO[join] was impressive in taking out a GSL Ro16 player in RorO, re-affirming himself as one of the KeSPA's top players. It's a shame we never got to see him play in a WoL GSL, but it will be exciting to see what he can do once he starts playing the expansion more seriously.



(T)STX_INnoVation ( 3 – 1 ) (T)8th_TY
VODs on Youtube

Innovation < Daybreak > TY
Innovation < Entombed Valley > TY
Innovation < Cloud Kingdom > TY
Innovation < Neo Planet S > TY

The first big broadcast of Korean TvT in HotS had a lot riding on its shoulders. At a GSL level, TvT was generally considered one of the best, if not the best match-up to watch, and people hoped the new units would enhance the experience. However, Innovation failed to innovate and Ty failed to...innovate, as both chose builds that every single Terran under the sun was doing in every single TvT, for all of the games. Yes, it was hellbat drops galore, the Brood War equivalent of being able to drop scarabs directly into the enemy mineral line.

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This was fun for about a game.

In the opening game, both players went for identical hellbat drops, and after some intense micro which resulted in the two Terrans losing all their workers, Innovation's decision to go for a viking as opposed a banshee for TY allowed him to re-establish an economy and win the game. Game two saw Ty attempt to use the new and improved reapers to his advantage, but Innovation showed him he probably should have gone hellbat drops again. Despite defending as best he could against the hellbat drops with a bunker and widow mines, it wasn’t enough for BaBy to avoid severe economic damage, and he went down 0 - 2 in the series. The hellbat drop wars continued to evolve in game three, with TY defending far better with a viking and a bunker, while doing irrecoverable damage to Innovation with his own drop.

By game four, it looked like hellbat drop supremacy had finally run its course, with Ty finally maximizing the defensive potential of widow mines to perfectly stuff Innovation's drops. However, the widow mines also ended up delaying Ty’s tech, while Innovation just transitioned into an expansion and standard mech composition. After building up off two bases, Innovation was able to crush through his opponent’s inadequate mech force with a more powerful hellion-siege tank army of his own.

Negative innovation: Hopefully, hellbat drop vs hellbat drop doesn't become the norm for HotS TvT. It was a bit reminiscent of the horror days of WoL TvT, where both players would rush cloaked banshees and the better multi-tasker would end up winning. While it was certainly a test of skill, few can say it was particularly interesting to watch past a few games. On a side note, it was hard to tell if TY and Innovation had played a lot of HotS, or just brought a hellbat drop build.


(Z)Woongjin_Soulkey ( 1 – 3 ) (T)STX_Last
VODs on Youtube

Soulkey < Neo Planet S > Last
Soulkey < Ohana > Last
Soulkey < Cloud Kingdom > Last
Soulkey < Whirlwind > Last

Last vs. Soulkey was another duel between players with differing levels of familiarity with WoL. It wasn't surprising that Soulkey, a mainstay in his team's Proleague line-up and a player with a shot at winning this current GSL, didn't make any HotS units at all. On the other hand, STX rotation player Last had apparently been playing a decent amount of HotS in his free time, or at least enough to bring expansion specific builds to the table.

Game one saw Last start out with a bunker-widow mine contain outside of Soulkey's natural, hoping to deny scouting and delay a third base. However, this ended up backfiring on Last, as Soulkey went for a quick lair and a huge two base roach attack once he had overseers and roach speed. Last was caught off guard trying to go for both hellbat drops and a third CC at the same time, and was woefully unprepared on defense.

Last opened with a proxy reaper bunker-rush build in game two, and managed to deny mining time for a few minutes and pick off some drones. Last then went for a similar window mine containment from game one, and this time he managed to successfully follow-up into his hellbat drop. The drop massacred most of Soulkey's workers, forcing the GG out of Soulkey after his roach counter was easily blocked.

Last decided there was no need to fix what wasn't broke, and went for another proxy-reaper widow mine build in game three. Soulkey made an adjustment by going for mass speedlings to counter, but Last simply used his widow mines to defend instead of contain and proceeded right up to more hellbat drops. Fortunately Soulkey, he recognized the reaper - widow mine - hellbat drop pattern, and researched burrow to avoid taking too much damage from drops. However, persistent hellion/hellbat harass still got Last a decent amount of drone kills, and Soulkey decided to GG out quickly after his mutalisk switch was met by thors.

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Shortly after, Soulkey took his ball and went home.

The final game of the series was the one that most resembled a WoL game the most, with both players going up to three bases almost completely unpressured, and Soulkey reached 80 drones by the ten minute mark. However, Soulkey failed to properly account for hellbat drops for one last game and had his drone line completely devastated. When the final big mech push came, Soulkey just did not have enough, and Last took the series 3-1.

Early adopter: Last showed the most HotS centered play of anyone in week one, using the new reapers, widow mines, and hellbat drops to great effect. While Soulkey made some slight adjustments from game to game, it was always going to be hard for him to figure things out on the fly. After this series, you could tell what sparked Soulkey's comment about HotS ZvT being impossible in his post-GSL match interview.



(P)Woongjin_Flying ( 2 – 3 ) (P)SKT_Rain
VODs on Youtube
(In a mix-up regarding regarding the two player's IDs, MLG switched the identities of the two players for the entirety of the series).


Flying < Daybreak > Rain
Flying < Akilon Wastes > Rain
Flying < Cloud Kingdom > Rain
Flying < Ohana > Rain
Flying < Whirlwind > Rain

Despite this being a mirror match-up, there was still a bit of asymmetry involved in the area of HotS knowledge. More specifically, Rain knew that void rays are good in HotS, and Flying did not. It proved to be all the difference in deciding who would get a spot at MLG Dallas.

Game one ended up being the most mundane match of the series, with Flying taking a 1 - 0 lead by taking down Rain with chargelots and archons. Things started to heat up in game two, with Flying going for a proxy-stargate oracle strategy. However, Rain reacted quickly with his warp-ins to minimize the amount of damage taken, and both players moved on to build up on two bases. The game ended up being decided by a strong two base timing from Rain, with Flying unable to get down a full force-field wall down in time save himself.

While Rain tried to mix in a couple of void rays in both game one and two, game three was the first time he was able to truly start massing them. With both players allowed to take three bases and max-out, Flying opted for an entirely ground based composition while Rain opted to mix-in upward of ten void rays as heavy fire support. The ensuing 200 vs. 200 battle served as a vivid demonstration as to which was the better composition: Rain burned through Flying's army with over sixty more supply left over. Flying tapped out quickly after that battle, but it wasn't long before he equalized the series, taking game four with a DT-4gate attack.

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Everything has changed, yet it's all stayed the same.

The deciding game on Daybreak ended up being yet another battle of maxed-out army compositions, with Rain once again going the void ray route while Flying went entirely for ground units again. While Flying did a great job at harassing Rain and making his life difficult, it didn't really matter as he still didn't have an answer to Rain's mass air composition. When the two armies inevitable clashed, Flying lost even more horribly than before, and was forced to surrender the Dallas spot to Rain.

Flying refuses to fly: Unfortunately, we missed out on a lot of puns when it was revealed that it was actually Rain who crushed Flying with Void Rays, and not the other way around.



Writers: kollin and Waxangel.
Photos: Silverfire
Graphics: Meko.
Editor: Waxangel.
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
February 10 2013 23:19 GMT
#2
It's kinda strange to see these guys play HotS actually. I think they're too WoL focused at the moment and having them play HotS at the moment may not be a good idea.
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DuBlooNz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom103 Posts
February 10 2013 23:19 GMT
#3
Great write up of the games

Hope the rest of them stay good
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 10 2013 23:24 GMT
#4
Oooh thanks for the writeup. Unfortunately due to the times it's on I can never watch them (at work) but I always do check in on the LR and results, so it's nice to see a proper write up.

Of course the more articles the better for anything =D
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 10 2013 23:24 GMT
#5
You randomly call TY BaBy once. Might wanna proof-read before publishing.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
February 10 2013 23:26 GMT
#6
Nice write up!
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Netherlands3111 Posts
February 10 2013 23:27 GMT
#7
Nice write ups! Great you cover this also! So much love for TL
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 23:31:58
February 10 2013 23:30 GMT
#8
2-3, not 1-3 should be the results in the last Flying vs Rain recap.

It would be more fun if the games actually looked like HotS, the way it is now I can just watch GSL for better WoL games.

You really notice that barely anyone has much experience with the game.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
February 10 2013 23:31 GMT
#9
"Parting's still got his storms and fantasy has still his marine micro" LOL
nice write-up ty
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Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 23:32:27
February 10 2013 23:31 GMT
#10
On February 11 2013 08:19 EnumaAvalon wrote:
It's kinda strange to see these guys play HotS actually. I think they're too WoL focused at the moment and having them play HotS at the moment may not be a good idea.


Well they are lucky that the only had to play against each other at least ^-^

Dont think we would have seen many Kespa players at MLG otherwise.
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
February 10 2013 23:33 GMT
#11
On February 11 2013 08:24 Larkin wrote:
You randomly call TY BaBy once. Might wanna proof-read before publishing.


I doubt anyone can confuse us more than all these name-changing progamers do.
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StarVe
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Germany13591 Posts
February 10 2013 23:39 GMT
#12
On February 11 2013 08:33 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 08:24 Larkin wrote:
You randomly call TY BaBy once. Might wanna proof-read before publishing.


I doubt anyone can confuse us more than all these name-changing progamers do.

Wooki is almost worse than MajOr by now.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
February 10 2013 23:52 GMT
#13
stop with the elephants pleaaaaaseeeee it's like the worst term every coined by TL just keeps sparking drama.

That being said, awesome article as always Really appreciate MLGs events in the dead season.
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Norway2143 Posts
February 10 2013 23:55 GMT
#14
The question is. How well will IdrA perform when he has been practicing HotS for so long?
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
February 10 2013 23:59 GMT
#15
Voidrays! o.o
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
February 11 2013 00:06 GMT
#16
Pleasant surprise to see writeups for this. Parting fighting!
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TLADT24920 Posts
February 11 2013 00:10 GMT
#17
Didn't even know this was going on lol. Thanks for the writeup
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Australia54784 Posts
February 11 2013 00:17 GMT
#18
hope the play improves in week 2 :p
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GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
February 11 2013 00:41 GMT
#19
It feels like a lot og the games were won by the abuse of the new gimmicky elements (hellbat &op voids) rather than game elements that lend to the positional play that was the goal of the expansion.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
February 11 2013 00:48 GMT
#20
that screenshots kinda crazy.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 11 2013 00:49 GMT
#21
It's really interesting to see how Heart of the Swarm is affecting gameplay. It is nice to see Void Rays being used again.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
February 11 2013 00:51 GMT
#22
In the OP, it says Rain 3-1 Flying, when it was 3-2 ^^
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Brazil1224 Posts
February 11 2013 00:52 GMT
#23
So it was Rain in red?
Oh man, i was sad about these games. LOL
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Micronesia1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 01:19:11
February 11 2013 01:19 GMT
#24
Flying 1-3 Rain or 2-3 Rain? Small errors
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Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
February 11 2013 01:21 GMT
#25
On February 11 2013 08:52 Steel wrote:
stop with the elephants pleaaaaaseeeee it's like the worst term every coined by TL just keeps sparking drama.
I say that if they want to keep calling KeSPA players "elephants", then they have to start calling eSF players "bears".
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
February 11 2013 01:46 GMT
#26
lol so rain was the one that won... very nice, I was sad for him yesterday
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Profile Joined February 2013
United States5 Posts
February 11 2013 01:47 GMT
#27
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alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
February 11 2013 02:43 GMT
#28
typo. "was the one that most resembled a WoL game the most"
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
February 11 2013 03:18 GMT
#29
On February 11 2013 09:41 GoodSirTets wrote:
It feels like a lot og the games were won by the abuse of the new gimmicky elements (hellbat &op voids) rather than game elements that lend to the positional play that was the goal of the expansion.


Yes, and although tons of people will point and go "LOOK PROOF OF IMBA", it's impossible to tell whether or not it is because they aren't familiar enough with HOTS or whether some things actually need nerfed.

Fruitdealer won more than one game in the first GSL with proxy Nydus ling/roach attacks. Pretty much every Terran player was doing Banshee openers, except for the few who were opening Tank/Raven.
DurandaL917
Profile Joined December 2010
United States92 Posts
February 11 2013 04:00 GMT
#30
I am so confused about the Rain vs Flying series. Watched that broadcast and at no point did they correct the mistake. Was there a statement released? Also, as much as I love Nick (Axslav), he's gonna have to revisit his comments about Rain's deficiencies :D
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
February 11 2013 04:08 GMT
#31
so any recommended games that are the most HotS-infused?
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany534 Posts
February 11 2013 04:47 GMT
#32
On February 11 2013 12:18 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 09:41 GoodSirTets wrote:
It feels like a lot og the games were won by the abuse of the new gimmicky elements (hellbat &op voids) rather than game elements that lend to the positional play that was the goal of the expansion.


Yes, and although tons of people will point and go "LOOK PROOF OF IMBA", it's impossible to tell whether or not it is because they aren't familiar enough with HOTS or whether some things actually need nerfed.

Fruitdealer won more than one game in the first GSL with proxy Nydus ling/roach attacks. Pretty much every Terran player was doing Banshee openers, except for the few who were opening Tank/Raven.


Except that those games, especially Ty vs. Innovation and Last vs. Soulkey, have been happening in high level play in HotS for quite some time now. Terrans have been using their hellbat drops with widowmine/siegetank defense and triple expand behind it since those units were buffed.
We're not talking about a brand new game or completely new mechanics like it was with the early stages of WoL. And you should not forget that quite a few things that you mentioned were nerfed later as a result of people abusing it. Dark Shrines used to be cheaper and took less time to build, Roaches had 2 armor and 1 supply. And, well, siegetanks did 60 damage per shot. People figured it was too strong and thus it got nerfed.
We had enough time to figure out that hellbat drops are too strong, we had enough time to figure out that terrans can be too defensive with the new siege tanks and widowmines. It IS possible to tell whether it is IMBA or not because we are familiar enough with HotS. And with "we" or "us" I mean people that have played many hundred games in the beta already.

(I used terrans as an example. There are other things that need tweaking aswell. Hellbats were just an obvious example that anyone who saw the games could understand)
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
February 11 2013 05:33 GMT
#33
So cool, bring in the Koreans and let's get that HotS metagame rolling!
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
February 11 2013 05:42 GMT
#34
awww i thought flying won lol
rip prime
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
February 11 2013 05:51 GMT
#35
Wtf (P)Flying vs (P)Rain? I thought that it was (P)Flying who used those Void Rays so well. But it's (P)Rain! Everything in its right place now
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
February 11 2013 07:00 GMT
#36
disagree with the naming in the bogus/baby match
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
February 11 2013 07:26 GMT
#37
Who's that guy to the left?

All jokes aside, it'll be nice to see some Idra play. That I'm a particular fan of his, but I'd like to see where one of the early "stars" are nowadays.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
DJSub
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia261 Posts
February 11 2013 07:28 GMT
#38
Wow time warp + force field + storm looks so deadly against bio
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
February 11 2013 07:50 GMT
#39
I will never understand why Jaehoon, Wooki, and Innovation changed there names...
Long live the Boss Toss!
800800
Profile Joined October 2011
Afghanistan64 Posts
February 11 2013 10:48 GMT
#40
Everything has changed, yet it's all stayed the same.


I'm crying inside.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
February 11 2013 11:04 GMT
#41
On February 11 2013 19:48 800800 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Everything has changed, yet it's all stayed the same.


I'm crying inside.


Denifitely, this one sentence sums up whole HOTS sadly.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
Dorfmatratze
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany8 Posts
February 11 2013 12:13 GMT
#42
replays?
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
February 11 2013 12:35 GMT
#43
After seeing the pro's : Seems protoss has more options in hots, they will be the race to watch out for till next hots patch. it's hard to defend against a toss early game. Mid/endgame i don't see much problems, but early game protoss seems a bit "op to do damage", thx too the new units and wide viarity of openers they can play. On the positive side this means games will be more fun to watch
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Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland753 Posts
February 11 2013 13:11 GMT
#44
On February 11 2013 21:13 Dorfmatratze wrote:
replays?


You'll find Vods in the opening post, no replays are released (yet?)
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
February 11 2013 13:17 GMT
#45
On February 11 2013 08:33 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 08:24 Larkin wrote:
You randomly call TY BaBy once. Might wanna proof-read before publishing.


I doubt anyone can confuse us more than all these name-changing progamers do.


i hope from now one anyone just call him baby ... killer is still called sangho because of a reason ... TY as name sucks hard
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
February 11 2013 15:06 GMT
#46
Wow Voidrays are super powerful now! o.O
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
February 11 2013 16:08 GMT
#47
On February 11 2013 08:39 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 08:33 Aunvilgod wrote:
On February 11 2013 08:24 Larkin wrote:
You randomly call TY BaBy once. Might wanna proof-read before publishing.


I doubt anyone can confuse us more than all these name-changing progamers do.

Wooki is almost worse than MajOr by now.


Well, at least Major has stuck with that for awhile. I just hope honest to god Wooki can stick to something. Personally I prefer Wooki than P7GAB or Zest, or whatever the hell he calls himself these days.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
February 11 2013 16:11 GMT
#48
For some reason I'm having a really hard time trying to get hyped about these showdowns. March cannot come soon enough so that everyone is 100% dedicated to HotS.

Sigh. Hopefully the transition to the last expansion won't be too much like this one.
syroz
Profile Joined September 2012
France249 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 16:39:48
February 11 2013 16:36 GMT
#49
Great. HotS will mess up with all progamers minds. Very enjoyable to watch.
Terran looks a bit strong against Zerg (revenge :D) and protoss looks slighty op in general (strong every stage of the game, they have no more weakness).
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
February 11 2013 16:37 GMT
#50
Jung Myung Hoon vs Won Lee Sak
Shin No Yeol vs Kim Joon Ho
Lee Shin Hyung vs Jun Tae Yang
Kim Min Chul vs Kim Sung Hyun
Shin Jae Wook vs Jung Yoon Jong

...yes, we are definitely heading directly toward the mainstream!

Looking forward to week 2 tough.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 11 2013 18:10 GMT
#51
I can't wait to see IdrA!
elderamy
Profile Joined January 2013
Portugal17 Posts
February 11 2013 19:30 GMT
#52
all videos are on their youtube channel!
Taeja, Jaedong, HerO, Snute, TLO!
dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
February 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#53
HOTS still leaves a lot of doubt in my mind...
"The only way to grow E-Sports is to tell the truth." -Richard Lewis
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 11 2013 21:17 GMT
#54
On February 11 2013 08:19 EnumaAvalon wrote:
It's kinda strange to see these guys play HotS actually. I think they're too WoL focused at the moment and having them play HotS at the moment may not be a good idea.


That's one of the reasons this next MLG is kind of an invite thing and not a true qualifier/open bracket, no?
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
February 11 2013 22:52 GMT
#55
On February 12 2013 01:36 syroz wrote:
Great. HotS will mess up with all progamers minds. Very enjoyable to watch.
Terran looks a bit strong against Zerg (revenge :D) and protoss looks slighty op in general (strong every stage of the game, they have no more weakness).


To quote you: revenge :D
maru G5L pls
Peski
Profile Joined June 2012
Denmark51 Posts
February 12 2013 15:14 GMT
#56
Parting is a beast.
It's all about rock, man. People who go paper are fucking weak. - Artosis
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
February 12 2013 18:34 GMT
#57
Thanks for the write-up, I wasn't able to watch most of the matches (too awkward a time for me in Europe) so I really appreciate the good write-up

How long has kollin been helping out? He doesn't have the pen icon of a writer (but neither does Zealously).

Is the hellbat drop the new version of the blue-flame hellion drop that was ubiquitous a while ago? I don't play HotS and don't know much about how it is going or how the metagame is surrounding it, but from this write-up it sounds as though the hellbat drop is happening a lot.
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