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On October 21 2012 10:14 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 09:26 Samhax wrote:
Personnaly, i think MVP was completely off mechanically. He was the better player strategically but he couldn't do what he wanted to do because he was limited by his hands (he never played bio in his bo7). his macro was off and he did some tactical mistakes, but i think his mind wasn't clear with all the pain. I'm really tired with all this " games were boring", "infestors are imba", etc. It really depressing, immature whining is killing sc2.
on the other hand Life is a monster mechanically and a good tactical player, but he was schooled by MVP strategically
at the end of the day, the better player won. Even if it was not a 100% MVP, you have to give credit to the kid, a handicaped MVP can beat anyone in a final ( hi squirtle). I think Mvp can go bio (he did vs Symbol) and people are reading too much into this injury thing. Yes, he is injured and cannot practice as much but Mvp still can play bio tank. Problem is that with bio tank you are hoping the Zerg makes a mistake or they can't deal with multi pronge harass. If your drop play doesn't do damage, there is also no timing to hit per BL. We just saw Life steamrolling through MKP, Taeja who are the 2 best bio users in the world. And considering Mvp won 3 games with mech, I think his choice was correct.
but going mech in all 7games is not working either if u watch game 6 and 7 it was clear that life figured out mvp's mech style
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Was a great, great finals, but....
+ Show Spoiler +'S gonna be a sad, saaaaaaad day tomorrow at the church of Mvp. :'-(
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So unfair, terran can't win doing anything except mech and even that only works if you get lucky with initial hellion harass
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Lol in the prematch interview Life said he wouldn't kiss the trophy if he won. But there he is on the front page of teamliquid doing just that.
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Yikes Mvp just not preparing enough anti-air every single time he lost! I felt like it was almost a build order thing... because he always had like 15 tanks taking on broodlings and like no thors and 5 viking. Is it just me or did that happen every time life won?
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Not that I am trying to troll or anything but Life seems to be licking his trophy instead of kissing it (in the cover picture).
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On October 21 2012 12:51 GrandMaster_07 wrote:
Not that I am trying to troll or anything but Life seems to be licking his trophy instead of kissing it (in the cover picture).
He's 15-years-old. This was probably his first time making out with something. Give him a break.
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Seeing life's 10 pool and Mutas fail and then losing 25 drones and still able to pump roaches and brood lords quite honestly has made me a bit skeptical. Zerg seems to be incredibly forgiving at the moment
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On October 21 2012 01:57 IcemanAsi wrote:
SON OF A BITCH! SPOILERS!
What the hell is wrong with you guys?! Putting that kind of spoiler on the front page?!
FFS!
Get over it, it's the same with every sport on the planet, you're just going to have to suck it up if you didn't watch it live
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Former Zenex can be proud ! They always found great talent and losing it to bigger teams. But with Life winning GSL they to win a little back.
Nice for Startale to ofc 
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On October 21 2012 01:57 IcemanAsi wrote:
SON OF A BITCH! SPOILERS!
What the hell is wrong with you guys?! Putting that kind of spoiler on the front page?!
FFS!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/689Yz.png)
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good win zerg..I mean life
But for real I wish MVP would have won. 5 championships would have been awesome!
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It took all of Startale, nay, all of Zerg and Protoss to finally take down MVP and even then only in the last game of the finals.
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MVP really threw those games away. He barely made any thors, and instead just made a ton of siege tanks every time. His vikings were always super late too so he never had any anti air. Not sure why he was so set on making tanks non stop :/.
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On October 21 2012 15:59 Horuku wrote:
MVP really threw those games away. He barely made any thors, and instead just made a ton of siege tanks every time. His vikings were always super late too so he never had any anti air. Not sure why he was so set on making tanks non stop :/.
Agreed. I'm so disappointed with MVP. I was crying in game 1, when MVP had gone almost pure tanks (!?!?). Then he scouts the broodlords... and yet keep making 3 tanks at a time for the rest of the game. His tanks melted and wasn't costeffective at all.
I feel like it would be another story if he had like 5-10 thors.. 3/3 thors are actually decent against 1/0 broodlords... and forces zerg into some difficult airsplitting.
If he really is the master of build orders, then he shouldnt have gone mech 7 times in a row.. cause his lategame-mechplay wasnt impressive in my eyes.
That beeing said.. I enjoyed the final 
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Oh man, so devastated MVP almost had it! D=
Grats to Life, he honestly didn't look half as good in these finals as all the lead up games since his 'style' wasn't really on display for the games he won. But he still looked better than MVP on the day overall since MVP made some critical errors in composition.
But yeah, despite being 4-3, all of the games of this finals weren't terribly interesting compared to others. Only a couple felt like the advantage shifted at some point.
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:'-( So sad... Now more than ever I feel that TvZ late-game needs to be rebalanced =/ I hope Mvp will get there eventually, and as a fan I will always be behind him!
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i have to say the games were so boring even though it went 4-3 that i ended up not even watching the last two games and instead browsing the web most of the time
basically you know who will win 95% of the time after the first harass and then you can watch it play out gruesomely slow for the next 20 minutes...
if terran doesnt do huge damage harassing then zerg will win with its ridic overpowered late game comp. if terran kills 50 drones early on then terran will win because he can push before zerg gets that comp
drop defense is so easy for zerg and harass options so limited that games just dont get turned around later on any more
infestors being so ridiculously overpowered that they make banelings and mutas unnecessary thus taking out two very fun to watch units in favor of OMG ANOTHER PERFECT FUNGAL YAY
its the same "watch shit turn green and die to gglords" every lategame and micro-wise i see players do pretty much the same to me in diamond league so its really hard to get excited over it...
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I feel like this series just made ZvT look incredibly unhealthy. Literally, life won if he made broodlords and lost otherwise.
This was due in large part to MvPs mistakes late game, but this series could not have come at a worse time with all the infestor/bl hate.
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Well, Zerg is the one reacting if Terran goes for mech play. You can't really blame life for going for the only solution.
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