• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:37
CEST 09:37
KST 16:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou14Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four0BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET6Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)80
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (March 17-23): Clem Bounces Back DreamHack Open 2013 revealed The New Patch Killed Mech!
Tourneys
$1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 INu's Battles #13 - ByuN vs Zoun Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
Is there anyway to get a private coach? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 21 OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24
Tourneys
300$ 3D!Community Brood War Super Cup #4 [ASL20] Semifinal B Azhi's Colosseum - Anonymous Tournament [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Current Meta Roaring Currents ASL final [I] Funny Protoss Builds/Strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
The Heroism of Pepe the Fro…
Peanutsc
Rocket League: Traits, Abili…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1096 users

[GSL] Finals Recap: Life vs. Mvp (Season 4) - Page 11

Forum Index > News
250 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Hawka12
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia26 Posts
October 21 2012 01:54 GMT
#201
On October 21 2012 10:14 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 09:26 Samhax wrote:
Personnaly, i think MVP was completely off mechanically. He was the better player strategically but he couldn't do what he wanted to do because he was limited by his hands (he never played bio in his bo7). his macro was off and he did some tactical mistakes, but i think his mind wasn't clear with all the pain. I'm really tired with all this " games were boring", "infestors are imba", etc. It really depressing, immature whining is killing sc2.

on the other hand Life is a monster mechanically and a good tactical player, but he was schooled by MVP strategically

at the end of the day, the better player won. Even if it was not a 100% MVP, you have to give credit to the kid, a handicaped MVP can beat anyone in a final ( hi squirtle).


I think Mvp can go bio (he did vs Symbol) and people are reading too much into this injury thing. Yes, he is injured and cannot practice as much but Mvp still can play bio tank. Problem is that with bio tank you are hoping the Zerg makes a mistake or they can't deal with multi pronge harass. If your drop play doesn't do damage, there is also no timing to hit per BL. We just saw Life steamrolling through MKP, Taeja who are the 2 best bio users in the world. And considering Mvp won 3 games with mech, I think his choice was correct.

but going mech in all 7games is not working either if u watch game 6 and 7 it was clear that life figured out mvp's mech style
IMMVP MMA MKP
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
October 21 2012 02:31 GMT
#202
Was a great, great finals, but....



+ Show Spoiler +
'S gonna be a sad, saaaaaaad day tomorrow at the church of Mvp. :'-(
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Starcraftmazter
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia71 Posts
October 21 2012 02:55 GMT
#203
So unfair, terran can't win doing anything except mech and even that only works if you get lucky with initial hellion harass
DJSub
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia261 Posts
October 21 2012 03:11 GMT
#204
Lol in the prematch interview Life said he wouldn't kiss the trophy if he won. But there he is on the front page of teamliquid doing just that.
My_Fake_Plastic_Luv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
October 21 2012 03:48 GMT
#205
Yikes Mvp just not preparing enough anti-air every single time he lost! I felt like it was almost a build order thing... because he always had like 15 tanks taking on broodlings and like no thors and 5 viking. Is it just me or did that happen every time life won?
Its going to be a glorious day, I feel my luck could change
GrandMaster_07
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Peru52 Posts
October 21 2012 03:51 GMT
#206
Not that I am trying to troll or anything but Life seems to be licking his trophy instead of kissing it (in the cover picture).
I am owning.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 21 2012 04:46 GMT
#207
On October 21 2012 12:51 GrandMaster_07 wrote:
Not that I am trying to troll or anything but Life seems to be licking his trophy instead of kissing it (in the cover picture).


He's 15-years-old. This was probably his first time making out with something. Give him a break.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
October 21 2012 04:57 GMT
#208
Seeing life's 10 pool and Mutas fail and then losing 25 drones and still able to pump roaches and brood lords quite honestly has made me a bit skeptical. Zerg seems to be incredibly forgiving at the moment
MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
October 21 2012 05:05 GMT
#209
On October 21 2012 01:57 IcemanAsi wrote:
SON OF A BITCH! SPOILERS!

What the hell is wrong with you guys?! Putting that kind of spoiler on the front page?!
FFS!



Get over it, it's the same with every sport on the planet, you're just going to have to suck it up if you didn't watch it live
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 21 2012 05:37 GMT
#210
Former Zenex can be proud ! They always found great talent and losing it to bigger teams. But with Life winning GSL they to win a little back.

Nice for Startale to ofc
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
October 21 2012 05:47 GMT
#211
On October 21 2012 01:57 IcemanAsi wrote:
SON OF A BITCH! SPOILERS!

What the hell is wrong with you guys?! Putting that kind of spoiler on the front page?!
FFS!



[image loading]
Liquid'Nony: "I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok."
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
October 21 2012 05:56 GMT
#212
good win zerg..I mean life

But for real I wish MVP would have won. 5 championships would have been awesome!
Liquid Fighting
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 21 2012 06:22 GMT
#213
It took all of Startale, nay, all of Zerg and Protoss to finally take down MVP and even then only in the last game of the finals.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Horuku
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
October 21 2012 06:59 GMT
#214
MVP really threw those games away. He barely made any thors, and instead just made a ton of siege tanks every time. His vikings were always super late too so he never had any anti air. Not sure why he was so set on making tanks non stop :/.
d<^^>b
Napoleon53
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark167 Posts
October 21 2012 08:00 GMT
#215
On October 21 2012 15:59 Horuku wrote:
MVP really threw those games away. He barely made any thors, and instead just made a ton of siege tanks every time. His vikings were always super late too so he never had any anti air. Not sure why he was so set on making tanks non stop :/.

Agreed. I'm so disappointed with MVP. I was crying in game 1, when MVP had gone almost pure tanks (!?!?). Then he scouts the broodlords... and yet keep making 3 tanks at a time for the rest of the game. His tanks melted and wasn't costeffective at all.


I feel like it would be another story if he had like 5-10 thors.. 3/3 thors are actually decent against 1/0 broodlords... and forces zerg into some difficult airsplitting.

If he really is the master of build orders, then he shouldnt have gone mech 7 times in a row.. cause his lategame-mechplay wasnt impressive in my eyes.


That beeing said.. I enjoyed the final
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 08:33:20
October 21 2012 08:32 GMT
#216
Oh man, so devastated MVP almost had it! D=

Grats to Life, he honestly didn't look half as good in these finals as all the lead up games since his 'style' wasn't really on display for the games he won. But he still looked better than MVP on the day overall since MVP made some critical errors in composition.

But yeah, despite being 4-3, all of the games of this finals weren't terribly interesting compared to others. Only a couple felt like the advantage shifted at some point.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
October 21 2012 10:28 GMT
#217
:'-( So sad... Now more than ever I feel that TvZ late-game needs to be rebalanced =/ I hope Mvp will get there eventually, and as a fan I will always be behind him!
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
October 21 2012 10:36 GMT
#218
i have to say the games were so boring even though it went 4-3 that i ended up not even watching the last two games and instead browsing the web most of the time

basically you know who will win 95% of the time after the first harass and then you can watch it play out gruesomely slow for the next 20 minutes...

if terran doesnt do huge damage harassing then zerg will win with its ridic overpowered late game comp. if terran kills 50 drones early on then terran will win because he can push before zerg gets that comp

drop defense is so easy for zerg and harass options so limited that games just dont get turned around later on any more

infestors being so ridiculously overpowered that they make banelings and mutas unnecessary thus taking out two very fun to watch units in favor of OMG ANOTHER PERFECT FUNGAL YAY

its the same "watch shit turn green and die to gglords" every lategame and micro-wise i see players do pretty much the same to me in diamond league so its really hard to get excited over it...
r691175002
Profile Joined October 2012
249 Posts
October 21 2012 10:44 GMT
#219
I feel like this series just made ZvT look incredibly unhealthy. Literally, life won if he made broodlords and lost otherwise.

This was due in large part to MvPs mistakes late game, but this series could not have come at a worse time with all the infestor/bl hate.
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
October 21 2012 11:02 GMT
#220
Well, Zerg is the one reacting if Terran goes for mech play. You can't really blame life for going for the only solution.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 23m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 110
StarCraft: Brood War
Aegong 68
ToSsGirL 48
Mong 1
Dota 2
XaKoH 212
XcaliburYe123
canceldota63
League of Legends
JimRising 695
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K614
Coldzera 283
shoxiejesuss261
Other Games
summit1g7312
WinterStarcraft408
ceh9400
Tasteless167
Hui .108
Mew2King76
Trikslyr15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick764
Counter-Strike
PGL249
Other Games
BasetradeTV72
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 30
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 23
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV530
League of Legends
• Lourlo1203
• Jankos1042
• Stunt686
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 23m
OSC
8h 23m
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
15h 23m
The PondCast
1d 2h
OSC
1d 4h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Online Event
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.