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[GSL] Finals Recap: Life vs. Mvp (Season 4) - Page 10

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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 20 2012 22:07 GMT
#181
great games out, sad to see that mvp couldn't find a way to take game 7
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thehepp
Profile Joined December 2011
United States67 Posts
October 20 2012 22:08 GMT
#182
games are boring, nothing against the players but the games sucked
MonDeW
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark369 Posts
October 20 2012 22:08 GMT
#183
Parting for next Code S champion!
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 22:21:42
October 20 2012 22:11 GMT
#184
On October 21 2012 07:00 NMxSardines wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 06:55 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 21 2012 06:50 NMxSardines wrote:
On October 21 2012 06:24 The_Darkness wrote:
On October 21 2012 06:10 NMxSardines wrote:
I didn't like the finals at all. It was just a constant game of 'Mvp gets hellions, Life loses' or 'Life gets Brood Lords, Mvp loses.' At some point, their weaknesses were so distinct that it makes me wonder how either of them even got to the finals.


This post is silly and wrong. MVP went mech each game and thus built hellions each game. In the final game he made lots of hellions (instead of just a couple), did a fair amount of damage and still lost. Life stomped everyone he faced up to the finals, so it's idiotic to question his past performances. I doubt you even watched the games.



I see you've met an important part of everyday life - taste and opinion. I am sorry if my opinion of these games is 'wrong' because you didn't like it.

Mvp didn't go mech each game and thus made hellions - he purposely got a second factory to get the Infernal Preigniter. Standard mech play involves getting only one Reactor Factory for hellions and not Infernal Preigniter - Mvp purposely over-made hellions to counter Life's ling style in almost every game he played.

Yes, I watched the games. It was Life against a couple of oblivious Terrans - Taeja and Marineking, who were not aware of Life's aggressive style therefore attempted to play their typical TvZ and lost. I doubt Life would've lasted through Round of 16/8 if he played Terrans who specifically prepared for his style and not just play a couple of practice matches to keep their fingers warmed up.


I like how you claim one thing and MKP's interview claims the opposite. Should I trust the random scrub on the forums who says things about players, or what the players actually say?


Well, if that's your favorite emotional outlet - you can also get pissed over somebody's analysis and post about it on Team Liquid. It's up to you.


Maybe I'll write an angry post on Reddit that will receive no responses!

But seriously, you're just wrong. MKP knew about Life's aggressive style but he is not flexible enough to develop counters; the same applies to Taeja. Mvp did do it but he is an anomaly since he knows how to play every style optimally.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Interstellar
Profile Joined May 2012
Mexico67 Posts
October 20 2012 22:23 GMT
#185
Now Life should take on Hyun at IPL Fight Club. See if he can knock him off his winning streak and collect that bounty.
El que es chingon, es chingon.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
October 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#186
For play by play of each match, see the following post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376813#1
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
October 20 2012 23:04 GMT
#187
Didn't like the finals that much and even though I wanted MVP to win, congrats to Life. Great accomplishment, balance aside.


This is the first comment after the article.
"balance aside"

MvP can't loose, it's balance obviously !
Fan's are so funny !
LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
Magpiez
Profile Joined June 2011
England15 Posts
October 20 2012 23:15 GMT
#188
Blinding display throughout the tournament from Life, kept it together in the end too!

MVP made it through and played great even whilst injured, maybe next time he'll get the 5th ^^

Overall, awesome season.
bosnia
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada223 Posts
October 20 2012 23:19 GMT
#189
many protoss's >parting lol...
TL member since 2002, Protoss ftw!!
scur2d2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada104 Posts
October 20 2012 23:20 GMT
#190
Lifes dad just didnt give a shit, just wanted to go home hahaha
Bite off more than you can chew, then chew it.
Ripeace
Profile Joined January 2012
34 Posts
October 20 2012 23:38 GMT
#191
"His strong late game" is a new way to say that BL/infestors are OP?
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
October 20 2012 23:45 GMT
#192
Hopefully Mvp doesnt suffer the GSL runner up curse :s
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
XForce3
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada45 Posts
October 20 2012 23:53 GMT
#193
Great finals, but basically every game came down to one question: how much damage can MVP do with his blue-flame hellions. If he did, he gets a gigantic, scary army like on Abyssal City and no Zerg in the universe can stop it and he wins the game. Or, Life defends it well enough that when he has Broodlords out, MVP has like 25 tanks and 4 vikings out, like what happened on Ohana.

Amazing to see how great players can make such small differences early turn into huge game-changing factors later on.
Befall
Profile Joined September 2010
United States69 Posts
October 21 2012 00:02 GMT
#194
Why is everyone blaming balance for MVP? He played the same strat or a similar derivation every single game. He chose a one-dimensional playstyle, and Life properly responded. Grats to ST_Life.
"Envy is ignorance, imitation is suicide." -Emerson
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 21 2012 00:18 GMT
#195
On October 21 2012 08:45 Dontkillme wrote:
Hopefully Mvp doesnt suffer the GSL runner up curse :s


Last time he got second place in the GSL he made it to the semi-finals in the following season, don't think that curse works on him.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
October 21 2012 00:22 GMT
#196
Mvp will get to the final again. mark my word.!
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
October 21 2012 00:26 GMT
#197
Personnaly, i think MVP was completely off mechanically. He was the better player strategically but he couldn't do what he wanted to do because he was limited by his hands (he never played bio in his bo7). his macro was off and he did some tactical mistakes, but i think his mind wasn't clear with all the pain. I'm really tired with all this " games were boring", "infestors are imba", etc. It really depressing, immature whining is killing sc2.

on the other hand Life is a monster mechanically and a good tactical player, but he was schooled by MVP strategically

at the end of the day, the better player won. Even if it was not a 100% MVP, you have to give credit to the kid, a handicaped MVP can beat anyone in a final ( hi squirtle).
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
October 21 2012 00:26 GMT
#198
On October 21 2012 09:02 Befall wrote:
Why is everyone blaming balance for MVP? He played the same strat or a similar derivation every single game. He chose a one-dimensional playstyle, and Life properly responded. Grats to ST_Life.


In fact Mvp basically figured Life's style out. Even in 7th game he had pretty little advantage all game long before he made a mistake by suciding his units for Life's 4th base. Overall, it's pretty close series but Mvp just made more costly mistake that costed him the game. I respect both players. They are both great players.
Killcani
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden448 Posts
October 21 2012 00:58 GMT
#199
This game has become boring as shit with all this turtle till end-game and a-move style hopefully HOTS will save it but I doubt it
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 21 2012 01:14 GMT
#200
On October 21 2012 09:26 Samhax wrote:
Personnaly, i think MVP was completely off mechanically. He was the better player strategically but he couldn't do what he wanted to do because he was limited by his hands (he never played bio in his bo7). his macro was off and he did some tactical mistakes, but i think his mind wasn't clear with all the pain. I'm really tired with all this " games were boring", "infestors are imba", etc. It really depressing, immature whining is killing sc2.

on the other hand Life is a monster mechanically and a good tactical player, but he was schooled by MVP strategically

at the end of the day, the better player won. Even if it was not a 100% MVP, you have to give credit to the kid, a handicaped MVP can beat anyone in a final ( hi squirtle).


I think Mvp can go bio (he did vs Symbol) and people are reading too much into this injury thing. Yes, he is injured and cannot practice as much but Mvp still can play bio tank. Problem is that with bio tank you are hoping the Zerg makes a mistake or they can't deal with multi pronge harass. If your drop play doesn't do damage, there is also no timing to hit per BL. We just saw Life steamrolling through MKP, Taeja who are the 2 best bio users in the world. And considering Mvp won 3 games with mech, I think his choice was correct.
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