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busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
June 23 2012 10:15 GMT
#901
Disappointing to say the least. As a follower of teamliquid since the start of sc2, watching this "documentary" I learned nothing new about the players or the team. You had like 10 interviews and it took you this long to make it? Wow.
Diabolical
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom9 Posts
June 23 2012 10:15 GMT
#902
Just made my TL account especially to donate to this, thought I should probably say hello too :D
sc_hell
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany20 Posts
June 23 2012 10:16 GMT
#903
On June 23 2012 18:34 lovedoctor wrote:
Yesterday:
Found about the documentary after euro-match at midnight.
Changed my plan to go to bed and first watch the docu.
Payed 10 bucks to support it. Also the trailer got me really hyped.

After 40 minutes I went to bed because frankly spoken it was boring.

Please don't ban me but as a paying customer I feel like I just should criticize and tell you why I didn't like it:

- It consists almost exclusively of interviews
- Most interviews were constructed using the same pattern (cool,funny,talented dude that is not playing to his potential)
- There was no footage of what happens around the players and the organisation
- There was no story told (despite in the intro by showing the years and what happened and tlo's story)
- I didn't learn much new about TL and the Players

What I liked was:
- Little insight into the personalities (hero and jinro)
- Hearing Nazgul's thoughts (very rare)

I would not pay for that again... * Disappointed *



Agree. It's more like celebrating TL than a docomentary. But it's free so it's allright.
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
June 23 2012 10:16 GMT
#904
I actually liked HuKs comments very much. He is very honest - for example of what he thought about Sheth's manners and personality.
lovedoctor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany115 Posts
June 23 2012 10:17 GMT
#905
On June 23 2012 19:09 Bensio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 18:34 lovedoctor wrote:
Yesterday:
Found about the documentary after euro-match at midnight.
Changed my plan to go to bed and first watch the docu.
Payed 10 bucks to support it. Also the trailer got me really hyped.

After 40 minutes I went to bed because frankly spoken it was boring.

Please don't ban me but as a paying customer I feel like I just should criticize and tell you why I didn't like it:

- It consists almost exclusively of interviews
- Most interviews were constructed using the same pattern (cool,funny,talented dude that is not playing to his potential)
- There was no footage of what happens around the players and the organisation
- There was no story told (despite in the intro by showing the years and what happened and tlo's story)
- I didn't learn much new about TL and the Players

What I liked was:
- Little insight into the personalities (hero and jinro)
- Hearing Nazgul's thoughts (very rare)

I would not pay for that again... * Disappointed *


Stopped reading after the bold, youre not a paying customer, its a free documentary, stop feeling entitled because you chose to contribute.




Hmm then I am confusing the term 'pay what you want'. Also they asked for money before watching it. Seems like paying to me. Anyways I expected more from TL than just a bunch of interviews and I will not pay/contribute for another 'documentary'.
"Infestors own marines in a way you don't understand" - artosis
Cenja
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 10:18:30
June 23 2012 10:17 GMT
#906
I really liked it and found it heart-warming, and you have to see it for what it is. It's not a documentary about esports or competitive starcraft in general, it's about the people in teamliquid.
I liked it but it could've been better. It could have told us more that we didn't know, like how they got in to starcraft in the first place and how they went from good players to great players. Maybe something about their childhood etc. I didn't learn much I didn't know but then again I guess it's hard to go that deep with 9 people in an hour and a half.
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
June 23 2012 10:19 GMT
#907
On June 23 2012 19:09 Bensio wrote:


Stopped reading after the bold, youre not a paying customer, its a free documentary, stop feeling entitled because you chose to contribute.



It's not really an example of 'entitlement' to have an honest opinion, or to express it, on a Teamliquid product, in the space provided for exactly such opinions.

There is a problem with gamers who do have an overinflated sense of entitlement, but this isn't an instance of it - the commenter was even worried about being banned for his opinions, hardly a sign that he considered himself entitled to anything...
Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
June 23 2012 10:20 GMT
#908
I personally loved it. Very inspirational. Thank you, Team Liquid.
@NvDox | Plantronics Nv: Rossi . mOOnGLaDe . deth . JazBas | @NvSC2 | @NvCoD | @NvLeague | @NvHearthstone | @NvDotA2 | @PLT_MF
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
June 23 2012 10:23 GMT
#909
Hi,
first, i used to teach movies analysis, and scenario writing for ten years. my comment may seams arsh, but it's exactly what i say to my student if they turn this work to me for notation.

general critiscim :

Picture is really nice, not overworked, but good.

Sound is horrible. who's mix that ? the volume for each "intro" is too loud, the balance / normalisation is overall bad.
The music is your choice, i dont find it particulary appropriate but it's ok. the mixing isn't.

The title, and the anime part on the begining give me hope that like a good movie, a good documentary, a good everything, it tell something, a narrative construction that tell the rise of a team, the transition to a really pro team, or the importance of the community around TL.

Sorry but i find nothing of that in the rest of the movie. I'm not a "ragebot" but i agree with the comment too long interview, with nothing new. borring edit and content.

I was really waiting to see this "first" Starcraft (team) docu, and i'm mostly disapointed.

My favorite part is the texte anime at the begining. really well made. the rest is immediatly forgetable.

The director must take a narrative course and rework all that. with all the content he already have he can choose a narrative arc and make a real docu / movie.

My2Cent
LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
niilzon
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium105 Posts
June 23 2012 10:25 GMT
#910
I was slightly disappointed by the documentary. It had some content issues (always the same interview patterns and alot of repetitive statements, not much to learn etc, see above posts) as well as technical issues (the sound on some interviews was too low, and the music to introduce players was too high. Some other minors issues as well), but it was a pleasant documentary to watch, and it made me smile a few times.
I think that the reason why some people are disappointed is because it was hyped alot. It is a decent documentary, and we expected a great one.

My favorite part was when djwheat was describing how he made Jinro offer a drink to his wife. Very touching
niilzon
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium105 Posts
June 23 2012 10:27 GMT
#911
Ow ell zedrOne you summarized my thoughts much better than me :D
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
June 23 2012 10:27 GMT
#912
On June 23 2012 19:02 RageBot wrote:
Boring, just long interviews.
Anyone who "learned more about player's personalities" just didn't watch enough free interviews with them.

This was a free interview. What are you talking about?
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
June 23 2012 10:35 GMT
#913
On June 23 2012 19:23 zedrOne wrote:
Hi,
first, i used to teach movies analysis, and scenario writing for ten years. my comment may seams arsh, but it's exactly what i say to my student if they turn this work to me for notation.

general critiscim :

Picture is really nice, not overworked, but good.

Sound is horrible. who's mix that ? the volume for each "intro" is too loud, the balance / normalisation is overall bad.
The music is your choice, i dont find it particulary appropriate but it's ok. the mixing isn't.

The title, and the anime part on the begining give me hope that like a good movie, a good documentary, a good everything, it tell something, a narrative construction that tell the rise of a team, the transition to a really pro team, or the importance of the community around TL.

Sorry but i find nothing of that in the rest of the movie. I'm not a "ragebot" but i agree with the comment too long interview, with nothing new. borring edit and content.

I was really waiting to see this "first" Starcraft (team) docu, and i'm mostly disapointed.

My favorite part is the texte anime at the begining. really well made. the rest is immediatly forgetable.

The director must take a narrative course and rework all that. with all the content he already have he can choose a narrative arc and make a real docu / movie.

My2Cent


Now I want this to become a TL meme
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
June 23 2012 10:41 GMT
#914
the wait is over! i loved this... its just so goddamn good.
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Winterfrozz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden357 Posts
June 23 2012 10:42 GMT
#915
I really enjoyed watching this documentary
Jazzi!
fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
June 23 2012 10:43 GMT
#916
i just wanted to comment in, Jinro's storytelling of how he slapped HotBid was my absolute favorite part of the whole film. That, and Dario's segment, where Dario is beer-blasting the barbecue with only a beard and no shirt on.

When i got to the credits, i had to go back and listen to Jinro's sickest troll of HotBid again.
http://fenrysk-art.deviantart.com
Sidders
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands41 Posts
June 23 2012 10:43 GMT
#917
The intro is just incredible, absolutely loved it.

Agree with most other comments, it's a good docu, and gave me more insight into the members of TL (as I'm not a long time sc2 fan, but switched over from FPS games). It didn't show me much about anything else which goes on in Liquid (inner workings of TL, storylines/rivalries at tournaments, big results for TL etc. etc.), maybe a good idea for a next docu?

Props to TL though for this being the first proper team docu (as far as i know?)!
SlayerS/oGs fan - Former journalist for sites such as MYM/Cadred/LLL and TEK-9 - exCOD4 pro gamer
Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
June 23 2012 10:47 GMT
#918
Great watch. Nice to see everyone talking so candidly about everything, NonY about his medical condition, the whole team about HuK leaving (plus HuK's own thoughts) etc etc.

Boggles the mind how people can whine when you pay whatever you like...
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Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
June 23 2012 10:49 GMT
#919
Feels so incomplete
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
June 23 2012 10:53 GMT
#920
On June 23 2012 19:16 sc_hell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 18:34 lovedoctor wrote:
Yesterday:
Found about the documentary after euro-match at midnight.
Changed my plan to go to bed and first watch the docu.
Payed 10 bucks to support it. Also the trailer got me really hyped.

After 40 minutes I went to bed because frankly spoken it was boring.

Please don't ban me but as a paying customer I feel like I just should criticize and tell you why I didn't like it:

- It consists almost exclusively of interviews
- Most interviews were constructed using the same pattern (cool,funny,talented dude that is not playing to his potential)
- There was no footage of what happens around the players and the organisation
- There was no story told (despite in the intro by showing the years and what happened and tlo's story)
- I didn't learn much new about TL and the Players

What I liked was:
- Little insight into the personalities (hero and jinro)
- Hearing Nazgul's thoughts (very rare)

I would not pay for that again... * Disappointed *



Agree. It's more like celebrating TL than a docomentary. But it's free so it's allright.


Same here, I personally couldn't stand the player interviews with 60 minutes of high praises. I'm not sure what I expected from it though, so maybe that was the point of it.
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