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MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
June 23 2012 11:59 GMT
#941
LOL EvilGeniuses paid 666 dollars. That's hilarious.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 12:02:38
June 23 2012 12:00 GMT
#942
pretty good considering the material. The material itself was pretty damn boring though, a good documentary consists of getting to know a person through situations in which they DO things, not just hearing someone saying "I am this guy" and then another guy saying "he is this guy, he is really great hes so nice hes so funny. I have nothing interesting to say, but he's just really nice he's so funny he could be so good if...". That, to me, is the antidote of interesting.

I'm not sure if this was supposed to be for people already into the game or for newcommers or just for the general public (probably not), it seemed to lack clear purpose apart from promotion. I would've loved to see a documentary that would make an "outsider" understand emotionally why anyone ever would play a game as much as they do. Compare to if this was a football-documentary and all we'd see were people in Barcelona or Ajax doing interviews about one another...

Dario TLO was great though, as soon he talks you are immediately interested.
Amove for Aiur
crowbar
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden21 Posts
June 23 2012 12:08 GMT
#943
That was awesome.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
June 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#944
On June 23 2012 19:02 RageBot wrote:
Boring, just long interviews.
Anyone who "learned more about player's personalities" just didn't watch enough free interviews with them.


That's quite correct, I don't have the time to hound every member of TL. If you're a hardcore fan, this is probably not going to tell you anything new.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
June 23 2012 12:13 GMT
#945
On June 23 2012 19:17 lovedoctor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 19:09 Bensio wrote:
On June 23 2012 18:34 lovedoctor wrote:
Yesterday:
Found about the documentary after euro-match at midnight.
Changed my plan to go to bed and first watch the docu.
Payed 10 bucks to support it. Also the trailer got me really hyped.

After 40 minutes I went to bed because frankly spoken it was boring.

Please don't ban me but as a paying customer I feel like I just should criticize and tell you why I didn't like it:

- It consists almost exclusively of interviews
- Most interviews were constructed using the same pattern (cool,funny,talented dude that is not playing to his potential)
- There was no footage of what happens around the players and the organisation
- There was no story told (despite in the intro by showing the years and what happened and tlo's story)
- I didn't learn much new about TL and the Players

What I liked was:
- Little insight into the personalities (hero and jinro)
- Hearing Nazgul's thoughts (very rare)

I would not pay for that again... * Disappointed *


Stopped reading after the bold, youre not a paying customer, its a free documentary, stop feeling entitled because you chose to contribute.




Hmm then I am confusing the term 'pay what you want'. Also they asked for money before watching it. Seems like paying to me. Anyways I expected more from TL than just a bunch of interviews and I will not pay/contribute for another 'documentary'.


Did you not see the $0 option?

Anyway, you spoke your peace, now kindly shut up.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 23 2012 12:15 GMT
#946
yeint, do you really think you're doing TL a favour with that attitude?
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
June 23 2012 12:16 GMT
#947
On June 23 2012 20:39 Nimic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 19:09 Bensio wrote:
On June 23 2012 18:34 lovedoctor wrote:
Yesterday:
Found about the documentary after euro-match at midnight.
Changed my plan to go to bed and first watch the docu.
Payed 10 bucks to support it. Also the trailer got me really hyped.

After 40 minutes I went to bed because frankly spoken it was boring.

Please don't ban me but as a paying customer I feel like I just should criticize and tell you why I didn't like it:

- It consists almost exclusively of interviews
- Most interviews were constructed using the same pattern (cool,funny,talented dude that is not playing to his potential)
- There was no footage of what happens around the players and the organisation
- There was no story told (despite in the intro by showing the years and what happened and tlo's story)
- I didn't learn much new about TL and the Players

What I liked was:
- Little insight into the personalities (hero and jinro)
- Hearing Nazgul's thoughts (very rare)

I would not pay for that again... * Disappointed *


Stopped reading after the bold, youre not a paying customer, its a free documentary, stop feeling entitled because you chose to contribute.




"Stop feeling entitled" is the worst phrase that exists in the SC2 community, and indeed the gaming community at large. It's a nonsense statement, and unfortunately it's now used to silence all criticism, whether constructive or not. Got anything that isn't positive to say about something you were excited about, dealing with someone you care about greatly?
Stop feeling entitled.

Bullshit.


Oh shut up.

The guy he's replying to SPECIFICALLY said that he is a paying customer and feels he's entitled to more.

His criticism may have been fair, but his statement that since he paid he feels ripped off is not fair in the slightest.

Especially since you weren't forced to pay. If you chose to pay before watching that's your problem.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
June 23 2012 12:17 GMT
#948
I liked it.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
June 23 2012 12:18 GMT
#949
On June 23 2012 21:15 Nimic wrote:
yeint, do you really think you're doing TL a favour with that attitude?


I'm not attempting to do anyone a favor. I'm telling him to stop defending his own stupidity.

His criticisms are subjective and therefore completely fair. Insinuating that he didn't get what he paid for is asinine.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
June 23 2012 12:19 GMT
#950
This was amazing!
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 12:22:43
June 23 2012 12:22 GMT
#951
On June 23 2012 21:16 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 20:39 Nimic wrote:
On June 23 2012 19:09 Bensio wrote:
On June 23 2012 18:34 lovedoctor wrote:
Yesterday:
Found about the documentary after euro-match at midnight.
Changed my plan to go to bed and first watch the docu.
Payed 10 bucks to support it. Also the trailer got me really hyped.

After 40 minutes I went to bed because frankly spoken it was boring.

Please don't ban me but as a paying customer I feel like I just should criticize and tell you why I didn't like it:

- It consists almost exclusively of interviews
- Most interviews were constructed using the same pattern (cool,funny,talented dude that is not playing to his potential)
- There was no footage of what happens around the players and the organisation
- There was no story told (despite in the intro by showing the years and what happened and tlo's story)
- I didn't learn much new about TL and the Players

What I liked was:
- Little insight into the personalities (hero and jinro)
- Hearing Nazgul's thoughts (very rare)

I would not pay for that again... * Disappointed *


Stopped reading after the bold, youre not a paying customer, its a free documentary, stop feeling entitled because you chose to contribute.




"Stop feeling entitled" is the worst phrase that exists in the SC2 community, and indeed the gaming community at large. It's a nonsense statement, and unfortunately it's now used to silence all criticism, whether constructive or not. Got anything that isn't positive to say about something you were excited about, dealing with someone you care about greatly?
Stop feeling entitled.

Bullshit.


Oh shut up.

The guy he's replying to SPECIFICALLY said that he is a paying customer and feels he's entitled to more.

His criticism may have been fair, but his statement that since he paid he feels ripped off is not fair in the slightest.

Especially since you weren't forced to pay. If you chose to pay before watching that's your problem.


Do you really fail to see how ineffective what you're doing now is? You insult people, and then tell them they're not entitled to comment. It's just.. sad.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 12:24:19
June 23 2012 12:23 GMT
#952
On June 23 2012 21:22 Nimic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 21:16 yeint wrote:
On June 23 2012 20:39 Nimic wrote:
On June 23 2012 19:09 Bensio wrote:
On June 23 2012 18:34 lovedoctor wrote:
Yesterday:
Found about the documentary after euro-match at midnight.
Changed my plan to go to bed and first watch the docu.
Payed 10 bucks to support it. Also the trailer got me really hyped.

After 40 minutes I went to bed because frankly spoken it was boring.

Please don't ban me but as a paying customer I feel like I just should criticize and tell you why I didn't like it:

- It consists almost exclusively of interviews
- Most interviews were constructed using the same pattern (cool,funny,talented dude that is not playing to his potential)
- There was no footage of what happens around the players and the organisation
- There was no story told (despite in the intro by showing the years and what happened and tlo's story)
- I didn't learn much new about TL and the Players

What I liked was:
- Little insight into the personalities (hero and jinro)
- Hearing Nazgul's thoughts (very rare)

I would not pay for that again... * Disappointed *


Stopped reading after the bold, youre not a paying customer, its a free documentary, stop feeling entitled because you chose to contribute.




"Stop feeling entitled" is the worst phrase that exists in the SC2 community, and indeed the gaming community at large. It's a nonsense statement, and unfortunately it's now used to silence all criticism, whether constructive or not. Got anything that isn't positive to say about something you were excited about, dealing with someone you care about greatly?
Stop feeling entitled.

Bullshit.


Oh shut up.

The guy he's replying to SPECIFICALLY said that he is a paying customer and feels he's entitled to more.

His criticism may have been fair, but his statement that since he paid he feels ripped off is not fair in the slightest.

Especially since you weren't forced to pay. If you chose to pay before watching that's your problem.


Do you really fail to see how ineffective what you're doing now is? You insult people, and then tell them they're not entitled to comment.


It's not in the slightest bit my fault that you're incapable of comprehending what you read.

EDIT: But let me put in some community service and spell it out for you:

His criticism may have been fair, but his statement that since he paid he feels ripped off is not fair in the slightest.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
entocheets
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia367 Posts
June 23 2012 12:24 GMT
#953
I enjoyed it, even though it basically was mostly interviews. But I can understand why it was done this way; if you want to cover each player equally, you kind of have to keep things short or else the length (and cost) of the movie would blow out.

I did gain some insight into each player none the less, and I think this sort of thing is a good foundation into making a more in-depth sort of feature that could focus on 2-3 players, if this is something that could be considered for the future. Like others have said, definitely some potential for some more narrative.

But yeah, really enjoyed watching it. More than happy to put some of my dollars towards it.
##creepers 4 lyf
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
June 23 2012 12:25 GMT
#954
I was so hyped for this and almost paid before watching it, but honestly I was disappointed. It didn't feel like a documentary at all, was expecting a sort of storyline from event to event, showing a story of progression of how players are doing along the way, what changes and so on. An example would be seeing Jinro's MLG/GSL success, and then his falloff afterward and how he was coping in private with it, there are lots and lots of interesting storylines over the last couple years that could feature.
I just watched a 15 minute sect on each player, with generic questions that are asked in every interview, and I didn't really learn anything about them at all. I knew TLO had his injury and how big it impacted him, where is the footage of him in recovery? Or maybe Tyler on a trip to the psychologist, I know its personal stuff, but that's what a documentary is. Hell, if that is too much, just following the team around behind the scenes at events would be really cool, or at the house with Nazgul in a clanwar, sitting in on the discussion on who to put on what map etc.
To emphasise the story part, my hopes were raised with that cool timeline thing at the start, and was surprised to see that that segment was completely irrelevant to the rest of the program. I was expecting it to jump into each section of that timeline with footage of it. This kind of stuff is so important, because you can see the changes and the trials and tribulations of the team. If you sit a guy down a year after an event, there is likely to be exaggeration and/or downplaying of certain parts of the story, and the actuality of the situation is masked somewhat from the viewer. But actually seeing these things first hand brings the viewer in and they get to see the true emotions and it becomes a much more valuable experience.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 23 2012 12:30 GMT
#955
hotbib getting slapped, LOL
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
freeofme
Profile Joined October 2011
United States11 Posts
June 23 2012 12:30 GMT
#956
This is the sort of video that inspires me to play sc2. Too bad I cant watch something like this every day to motivate me!
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 12:34:56
June 23 2012 12:33 GMT
#957
I was surprised the way it was done, not at all like the documentary I thought was in the making. When there was talk about a guy doing this, with camera backstage following the team around, I just thought it would've been so much better with a more "live" feeling to it. TL is so genuine and full of love, this opportunity could have showed it in better ways. Still, it was a good watch and you could tell alot of hard work went into this. Yet I still feel I wanted more.

Cheers
Until #2
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 23 2012 12:35 GMT
#958
Really mediocre documentary, just a bunch of interviews cut together, nothing worth watching. Really boring, I expected more.

Like for instance when they talk about how creative TLO is, great, show us something. A bunch of people talking about how creative he is with nothing else is pretty boring.

Would be better with Hotbid doing the interviews.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
June 23 2012 12:36 GMT
#959
On June 23 2012 05:47 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 05:47 Brow23 wrote:
I am SHOCKED that Hero smokes, WTF!

Many Koreans do.


So do many non-Koreans.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Simsallabin
Profile Joined June 2012
Nepal216 Posts
June 23 2012 12:37 GMT
#960
Liked it but was expecting a more in depth since it was labeled as a documentary. Wasn't much of a documentary more of a "Here are the players of Team Liquid" so can understand people feeling disappointed and wanting more back ground information etc.



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