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OP,
Grand Finals, Game Three – Shakuras Plateau Set 2 - maybe should be added for complete clarity. (it's still clear, of course)
On MVP Nestea, lategame mass ghost isn't unbeatable in general, only unbeatable with what Nestea was doing this game. He commited too far into a direction that was bound to fail more and more, and he didn't adapt quickly enough, otherwise he had the game. He made these mistakes, sure, but it doesn't seem to have been on purpose, at all. It also doesn't make him "bad", it's difficult to estimate.
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Thx for writeup... I didn't know Blizzcon generated that much hate on reddit o.o
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can somebody put a video of the mma chants at blizzcon together? would love it.
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I guess balance whining is now sanctioned by TL?
Sheesh. What an irritating writeup. If I want to see pointless balance whine I go to /r/starcraft.
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MMA's nose is humongous in the fanart lol.
Loved the GSL finals. Most fun to watch matches ever.
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Its funny, protoss and zergs dont even mention the snipe write-up because its just like a "well...yeah? we know its messed up" kinda reaction
but terrans are all indignant as fuck
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Great write-up, enjoyed the TvT analysis of the GSL Finals by Pokebunny.
Many thanks!
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Do you know how frustrating it is to hear that NaNiwa is playing NesTea, only to find out you're going to be watching Jazbas against TooDming?
I felt the same way like i needed to throw something hard at either my computer or the guy organizing which games to stream
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Great article, in fact it inspired my new signature 
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Best GSL finals ever imo!
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On October 27 2011 11:32 althaz wrote:Great article, in fact it inspired my new signature
You might want to edit your quote to give the proper credit, as Fionn wrote that section of the article.
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I guess balance whining is now sanctioned by TL?
Sheesh. What an irritating writeup. If I want to see pointless balance whine I go to /r/starcraft.
Agreed man, its kinda painful to read this on the featured articles on TL
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Really enjoyed the read.One of my goals for 2012 is Blizzcon tickets so i can experience the crowds for myself. Wish Nestea would have taken the Con down for the swarm though.
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Grade A write-up, loved it.
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On the MMA's challenger's part, prior to the fan art, I think it forgot MC...
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Great read, thanks for writing it up. I really didnt mind the 1 SC2 stream blizzcon tbh. But to each his own i guess.
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On October 26 2011 16:13 FidoDido wrote:
I can't believe so little people didn't noticed Nestea lost the last engagement because his broodlords couldn't attack the cloaked ghosts (he forgot to bring the 5 overseers he made, watch the vod carefully and you'll see)
This. I was watching it live and I was shouting at the screen that Nestea should bring his overseers from the top right corner of the map.
Cloaked units stomp anything without detection.
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On October 26 2011 15:41 NATO wrote:
"If you think about it, Snipe really is a bit overpowered. Basically, it converts a mostly free resource (energy) into damage, and it does it instantly. Sure, Psi Storm and Fungal Growth have better damage per mana potential, but they deal their damage over time, and can be dodged as well. With snipe, the DPS is only limited by how fast you can shift queue up new targets."
WTF is this crap? What has TL become, making unfounded QQ statements. Fungals is NOT dodgable, and also STOPS THE UNIT FROM MOVING AT ALL, making all zerg's melee units just wreck everything. Furthermore, those area of effect spells are tremenously easier to pull off, as that many snipes not only requires ridiculous attention and apm (only MVP can even pull that off), but you have to have good mouse precision and speed as well as you are clicking targets, rather than general areas.
Furthermore, the concept that a zerg should be able to 1a victory every game is just saddening. If you lazily 1a your BL with no ground support right into a terrans base after you've given him time to prepare, you better expect something to come up and kill them. With support, the BL plus fungal there is really no way to even touch BL.
Ever notice how this strategy doesn't catch on? That's because you basically have to be a super human to pull it off, and even then Nestea made so many mistakes he basically handed MVP the game. Even with all those huge mistakes, MVP had to act like a god to pull of the narrow victory.
Dude, are you serious? For one fungal is not instant, it does move quite fast, but similar to storm where if you know where it is going to land you can move away and you can avoid some of the area if not the whole thing. Snipe is different once it has been fired it does not miss. So quit making your own unfounded QQ statements.
Secondly it really isn't that hard to mass snipe, just hold down the snipe button and spam click, sure it is definitely more efficient for someone like MVP who has better mouse precision but it's not hard to pull off.
Thirdly, this "Furthermore, the concept that a zerg should be able to 1a victory every game is just saddening." unless you are talking about the opinons of other users, this was not implied at all in the write up. What was stated in this situation was that "MVP had finished his preparations..." and Ghosts counter pretty much everything Zerg, especially slow, gas-heavy, low HP, end-game biological units., which is NOT the same thing at all and does not even complain that Nesteas attack failed, it simply states what happened. So quit trying to put down the writers by putting false arguments that you have pulled out of nowhere.
If you want to challenge the writers for the articles on a site like Team Liquid that does so much for the community, at least do them the respect of making valid arguments.
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This article is like a TvT - long, drawn out and anti-climactic. Just my 2 cents.
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On October 27 2011 14:30 Myrddraal wrote:
Dude, are you serious? For one fungal is not instant, it does move quite fast, but similar to storm where if you know where it is going to land you can move away and you can avoid some of the area if not the whole thing. Snipe is different once it has been fired it does not miss. So quit making your own unfounded QQ statements.
Thats utter bullshit. Fungal is instant, you cast it and the growth appears. Time doesnt pass between you clicking and it happening if you are within range. Even if there is a tiny delay, its so small you couldnt possibly predict which way the fungals gonna hit and dodge
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