Nice writeup! I don't think they would fix the matches but i don't really care if they did.
Also, i don't think you can shift-queue snipe.. the ghosts will get confused with walking and firing .. unless maybe you do hold fire first? So far i'm only able to click snipe-click-snipe-click-etc.

SoniC_eu

Denmark1008 Posts

October 26 2011 19:43 GMT

#123

Do I sense Terran OP in waxangel's write up? Ye ghosts are good, but they cam be dealt with

Wow, its amazing how much Terran OP there is going on! Let's enjoy the game, and be happy

Blizz says that WoL is balanced, cos their stats show that (except in Korea). I think that pretty much ends the discussion, esp seen as most of us live in NA / EU.

I for one really enjoyed the Blizzcon event, and certainly had my share of nerdchills and memorable games. :D

MCDayC

United Kingdom14464 Posts

October 26 2011 19:43 GMT

#124

The pokebunny write up was excellent, that was super cool. Very nice article overall, good job!

Heyoka

Katowice25012 Posts

October 26 2011 19:52 GMT

#125

Recaps are really nice Poke good job

MrCon

France29748 Posts

October 26 2011 19:58 GMT

#126

Very nice writeup.
Waxangel, your recaps are more and more interesting, I'm under the feeling that you find the game itself to be more and more interesting (as I do) and it shows on your writings

Render

United States249 Posts

October 26 2011 20:11 GMT

#127

Great write-up, super fun to read!

TrivialRiot

United States27 Posts

October 26 2011 20:17 GMT

#128

If you're not going to address balance when the best in the world play then you might as well stfu about it since lower level tactics and strategy will always be countered by higher level tactics and strategy. I'm not saying I agree with Wax's assessment but to claim he shouldn't be talking about it since it's official tl news or w/e is ridiculous, it seems really relevant as a possible cause for one player to lose a 10k mineral advantage. I think Nestea was defeated mentally once MVP setup his defense though, nothing else to me explains how utterly he failed all his executions and drop defense. I can only imagine the horror of practicing against the best turtle terran in the world every day and then have him achieve full turtle successfully on this huge stage, lol...

Cyber_Cheese

Australia3615 Posts

October 26 2011 20:32 GMT

#129

On October 27 2011 05:17 TrivialRiot wrote:
If you're not going to address balance when the best in the world play then you might as well stfu about it since lower level tactics and strategy will always be countered by higher level tactics and strategy. I'm not saying I agree with Wax's assessment but to claim he shouldn't be talking about it since it's official tl news or w/e is ridiculous, it seems really relevant as a possible cause for one player to lose a 10k mineral advantage. I think Nestea was defeated mentally once MVP setup his defense though, nothing else to me explains how utterly he failed all his executions and drop defense. I can only imagine the horror of practicing against the best turtle terran in the world every day and then have him achieve full turtle successfully on this huge stage, lol...

When you put it that way, there's no way he hasn't tried hundreds of times to break MVP's front via ground after the late game approaches, no wonder he was doing all that risky play.

Snijjer

United States989 Posts

October 26 2011 21:13 GMT

#130

On October 27 2011 00:00 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
MMA! MMA! MMA!

Great writeup, damn that guy is good. The art at the end isn't very "korean-looking", lmao.

Yeah I was baffled by that as well... Trying to hard to be PC?

Xidious

United States29 Posts

October 26 2011 21:22 GMT

#131

Damn, I really have to find that game and watch it now, sounds epic from what was described... at least.

Noocta

France12578 Posts

October 26 2011 21:34 GMT

#132

Great write up.
It's nice to be able to read this because i missed a lot of the Blizzcon ( was at ESWC )
I saw the Blizzcon final tho, and i hope people will not take the last game as balance argument

Nestea and MVP were both tired as fuck at this point. Peopne were saying Nestea was sleeping between matches. Decision making in this state is not great, remember that.

MoreFaSho

United States1427 Posts

October 26 2011 21:36 GMT

#133

Best. Write-up. Ever.

castled

United States322 Posts

October 26 2011 21:45 GMT

#134

Great reads as usual, but I'm a little disappointed that Wax's writeup suggests Terran/Snipe OP. That game could have gone either way, and he even pointed out some of the mistakes that Nestea made (such as the terrible drop decisions). I don't think it's fair to say that ghost-turtling is OP, given that the primary examples where it has worked it was being executed by Mvp's godly micro and his Zerg opponents didn't exactly have an inspired response.

The other game that comes to mind besides the two you mentioned was Puma vs Idra at IEM. We know Puma has great micro and Idra let him get a powerful army, but Idra was still able to dismantle him gradually.

1Eris1

United States5797 Posts

October 26 2011 21:52 GMT

#135

Don't like the whole Terran OP stuff. Everyone knows MVP is the best player in the world, even Nestea has attested to this. No one complained about game one of the 2nd bo1 when nestea was able to max out by the time MVP was only at 120 supply and just slaughter him.

As for the whole match fixing thing, seriously guys? It's not like they just worker rushed eachother. They played entertaining games, very entertaining games.