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On October 24 2011 01:15 labbe wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Blizzard is just trying to do as little work as possible on the game, without losing sales from it, so they can save money by not having too many people working on the game.
They basically know that no one will skip HotS due too lack of some of these features, so they feel no rush implementing them. I personally feel this is a really shitty attitude to have as a company. Not trying to do the best game possible, but instead just try to getting away with doing the "bare minimum"
I used to be a fan of Blizzard. Not just their games, but a fan of the company as a whole. Now though, I have lost all faith in the company, as I feel that Blizzard simply does not give a shit about their customers.
I honestly don't even know where this stuff comes from.
are the perfect no? are the clearly the one of the best companies? yes.
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I really with the would implement automatic tournaments like they have for wc3.
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about LAN:
it seems to me they are saying:
the general public won't have LAN, and tournaments won't have LAN, but major tournaments will have an alternative that accomplishes the same thing.
example of a "LAN-like" alternative: a private SC2 game server in the extreme vicinity of the tournament which is provided by blizzard itself.
this, in my book, is completely fine.
the general public don't need LAN, and the tournaments will be free of lag, so everyone should be happy.
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On October 24 2011 01:37 Galleon.frigate wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 01:15 labbe wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Blizzard is just trying to do as little work as possible on the game, without losing sales from it, so they can save money by not having too many people working on the game.
They basically know that no one will skip HotS due too lack of some of these features, so they feel no rush implementing them. I personally feel this is a really shitty attitude to have as a company. Not trying to do the best game possible, but instead just try to getting away with doing the "bare minimum"
I used to be a fan of Blizzard. Not just their games, but a fan of the company as a whole. Now though, I have lost all faith in the company, as I feel that Blizzard simply does not give a shit about their customers. I honestly don't even know where this stuff comes from. are the perfect no? are the clearly the one of the best companies? yes.
The reason why people are resenting Blizzard is because they are using such effective, calculated, cost-cutting measures such as this one instead of completely fixing the game like they could have already done.
If Blizzard had really wanted to, they could have pushed players new units through patches to the game, made all the balance tweaks they wanted and had the game perfectly even by now, and even upgraded Battle.net 0.2 to 2.0 and beyond. There's a reason why they haven't. It's green, lightweight, flexible, and you can trade it for just about anything. It's called money. Why have one game that sells for 60 dollars when you can have 3 that most everyone will buy? Why patch things now, when you can include those solutions as part of the package for your other two games, thereby making the deal that much sweeter to consumers?
There is a line, however, that Blizzard is required to walk on in doing this. Keep too much from the consumers, and they will lose interest in the game and leave before the other two games come out. This is why we see constant band-aid patches; it grants them the illusion of making progress on balancing the game when all it does is buy them more time so that they can finish the expansions, and reap the rewards of what they've done.
Make no mistake, the game will eventually be as perfectly tuned and deep skill-wise as Brood War ever was, and Battle.net will become 2.0 instead of 0.2; you're just going to have to shell out 150 bucks for it.
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On October 24 2011 01:41 Roblin wrote:
about LAN:
it seems to me they are saying:
the general public won't have LAN, and tournaments won't have LAN, but major tournaments will have an alternative that accomplishes the same thing.
example of a "LAN-like" alternative: a private SC2 game server in the extreme vicinity of the tournament which is provided by blizzard itself.
this, in my book, is completely fine.
the general public don't need LAN, and the tournaments will be free of lag, so everyone should be happy.
So lets say EG players should lag while training in order to advance to lagless tournament? What the point? By your logic all high tech gaming gear should be also available only in major tournaments.
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Who needs LAN? Starfriend ♥
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Hmmm... Questions. Sure, I'll shoot you some.
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They literally didn't say anything. I get a feeling Blizzard is just supporting World of Warcraft and are completely forgetting about Starcraft 2. Blizzard doesn't even seem to care about e-sports either.
p.s. where are the name changes?
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So, when is that Dustin Browder interview going up?
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Sigh... some people on this world expect too much. Why would they tell you everything or anything you ask them? They don't want you to know too much. If Blizzard tells you everything, some of you will criticize or complain to some of the changes or new ideas they have. Then they might have to work on it again and again, keeping the production going on and on. I know some people would like to know what they buy, but anything you buy should be an investment. They have trial keys for people like that.
Was I disappointed when buying Wings of Liberty? Yes I was, but not enough to shelf the game. Maybe I had too much expectations, because I loved the original Starcraft and Brood War. However, I think Wings of Liberty is a very well produced game. So in regards to Heart of the Swarm, I don't want to know too much or have too much expectations.
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On October 24 2011 03:12 Pleiades wrote:
Sigh... some people on this world expect too much. Why would they tell you everything or anything you ask them? They don't want you to know too much. If Blizzard tells you everything, some of you will criticize or complain to some of the changes or new ideas they have. Then they might have to work on it again and again, keeping the production going on and on. I know some people would like to know what they buy, but anything you buy should be an investment. They have trial keys for people like that.
Was I disappointed when buying Wings of Liberty? Yes I was, but not enough to shelf the game. Maybe I had too much expectations, because I loved the original Starcraft and Brood War. However, I think Wings of Liberty is a very well produced game. So in regards to Heart of the Swarm, I don't want to know too much or have too much expectations.
The things they did say were the very same things they have been saying all the time since the release, absolutely no new information at all.
That's why i was a bit disappointed.
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On October 24 2011 03:10 Neb1000 wrote:
So, when is that Dustin Browder interview going up?
Ye. I have same question.
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On October 24 2011 01:37 Galleon.frigate wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 01:15 labbe wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Blizzard is just trying to do as little work as possible on the game, without losing sales from it, so they can save money by not having too many people working on the game.
They basically know that no one will skip HotS due too lack of some of these features, so they feel no rush implementing them. I personally feel this is a really shitty attitude to have as a company. Not trying to do the best game possible, but instead just try to getting away with doing the "bare minimum"
I used to be a fan of Blizzard. Not just their games, but a fan of the company as a whole. Now though, I have lost all faith in the company, as I feel that Blizzard simply does not give a shit about their customers. I honestly don't even know where this stuff comes from. are the perfect no? are the clearly the one of the best companies? yes.
There are other companies that care a lot more for their games and actually implement things asap to keep it good. They do not always have the funds though.
Shared replays has been on "the list" of a multi billion dollar company for over a year now. Come the fuck on, they could fix that in an hour with their resources.
Rule of thumb is that if you can afford advanced space travel and moon landings, you can afford to hire ONE guy to fix these things.
The phoenix bug where you had to manually cancel the graviton beam after the target had been killed was live for months.
Blizzard is the best because they're the richest, not because they have people in their higher ups that give one flying f*ck about their games, apart from that they actually sell.0
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i understand the no LAN thing. I know it sucks, but Blizzard's been having an issue with people pirating games and i think no LAN is a reasonable way to discourage it. It's not a huge deal to me.
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On October 24 2011 04:58 deadhead42o wrote:
i understand the no LAN thing. I know it sucks, but Blizzard's been having an issue with people pirating games and i think no LAN is a reasonable way to discourage it. It's not a huge deal to me.
No LAN has nothing to do with piracy. It's about controlling tournaments, and esports-organizers.
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LAN doesn't have ANYTHING to do with piracy since you can already play on LAN with a pirated copy, using a third party program.
Also these new units seem pretty dumb. Why would you make a lurker with a killable attack?
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I dont see the reason for making this news post at all. I dont think anything in it is even news. Nothing has changed since before the game was released it seems.
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So HotS is bringing absolutely nothing new feature wise?
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Saving Multiplayer Games/Reconnect ala LoL/Dota2 etc
They have talked about it. They like the idea of it but it hasn't made it in yet (watching group replays is more important to them right now). Didn't commit but its something they are looking at.
I love that part and hope it gets implemented. Interested in seeing how much more they can/could do with the arcade too.
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On October 24 2011 06:24 Mastermind wrote:
I dont see the reason for making this news post at all. I dont think anything in it is even news. Nothing has changed since before the game was released it seems.
Seriously what have they been doing for 1.5 years now? Did they take an extended vacation after they implemented those incredible chat rooms? It appears they haven't gone beyond the stage of batting around the idea of maybe implementing stuff in SC2.
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