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Go1den
Profile Joined June 2011
England116 Posts
October 23 2011 06:09 GMT
#301
I'm fairly disappointed in their consistent lack of commitment to any of these issues. Obviously they are adamantly opposed to LAN, while the community could not be more in favor of it. The remaining issues on that list seem to boil down to things on Blizzard's imaginary-list-of-things-to-implement-at some-point-in-the-future-but-actually-probably-not. Sigh.
hummingbird23
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway359 Posts
October 23 2011 06:43 GMT
#302
This basically kills my hope that HotS will be anything other than a moneygrubbing major patch. Where's the commitment to quality? This is not the Blizzard that made sure a Blizzard release was polished and well supported.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
October 23 2011 06:55 GMT
#303
none of these things will be implemented because people will keep spending money and they are not at a loss at all.
oh well.
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Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
October 23 2011 08:07 GMT
#304
I'm pretty sure there are guys in blizzard who would want LAN. Its not like they are just omitting it to piss customers off. I cant nail what it is, whether its anti piracy or what but there is probably a very good reason why they are so against it.
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
October 23 2011 08:18 GMT
#305
On October 23 2011 17:07 Onlinejaguar wrote:
I'm pretty sure there are guys in blizzard who would want LAN. Its not like they are just omitting it to piss customers off. I cant nail what it is, whether its anti piracy or what but there is probably a very good reason why they are so against it.



Yeah, they probably dislike MLG.
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GaRFyelD
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria31 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 08:47:59
October 23 2011 08:46 GMT
#306
no information on tournaments?

edit: I am asking about their plans on tournaments the way they were implemented @ Warcraft 3. I see no reason why we would not be able to play for small rewards here and there directly in battle.net. There will be sponsors to help this out for sure
I'm tired of my cave.
SoFool
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Malaysia96 Posts
October 23 2011 08:47 GMT
#307
‎" He said he considers WoL to be pretty balanced and that they only want to make tiny changes to fix problems that they see. HotS is effectively a reset on the balance process, but they feel overall it will be an even better game filling many of the issues they saw with the original."

quite contradicting lol oh well
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 09:26:53
October 23 2011 09:19 GMT
#308
With regards to LAN, maybe tournaments will start going rogue when server emulator is improved a bit better. + Show Spoiler +
In fact for 1v1 purposes of big games I think they are already pretty good. It currently isn't viable for ALL games to use it though, since it supports very few players, so it requires a bit work to set up and switch players and stuff, which is both a hassle and a challenge for players.


KeSPA and ICCUP were/are giving Blizzard the finger for years... why not do it again?

On October 23 2011 17:47 SoFool wrote:
quite contradicting lol oh well

I often talk about two sort of imbalances:
1. Often not what most people call imbalance. For instance in the quote you wrote, they called them problems — they didn't say it was imbalance problems. This type of "imbalance" I like to call non-winrate imbalance, or playability/diversity/fun-factor/mechanics balance.

2. win-loss balance... general traits of a race (across 1 unit or various units) and/or a map which causes a certain race to win more often in a certain matchup, over an average of many games at a certain estimated skill level.

Sometimes the two are kind-of related, such as with the usefulness of some units like the hydralisks. Hydralisks are both a lackluster unit in general to play and use, as well as overall considered to be quite weak. If it was given an ability or something, it would very likely be buffing zerg overall for some (not all) scenarios.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Teradur
Profile Joined April 2010
97 Posts
October 23 2011 10:18 GMT
#309
The Blizzcon as a whole has been kind of disappointing this year, so this interview only fits the picture.

I don't know about the rest of you, but back in the days, when they announced the whole b.net 2.0 and what they are planning to do with it, I was really excited. I thought they would continiously be working on it, implementing new features, makeingn changes and patches (non-balance) where needed. Now, over a year after release, it is basically still the same. The best change they have made so far, was the update of the observer interface. Still no clans, still no group replays, at times it feels like nobody is working on it at all. So far, Blizzard has not delivered what they promised, overall it feels like a step back compared to WC3. They have taken full controll of the online-experience of the game, but are simply not able to provide the kind of support that, for past games was mostly provided by creative communities.
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
October 23 2011 10:58 GMT
#310
On October 22 2011 12:36 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 12:23 Plansix wrote:
On October 22 2011 12:18 Sinensis wrote:
On October 22 2011 12:18 Plansix wrote:
On October 22 2011 12:16 Sinensis wrote:
Marketplace and microtransactions higher up on "the list" than stupid basic stuff like clans, group replay, and being able to watch pro games on their client? Are they short on cash or something? Why not just release another special edition mount if that's the case?

I sort of wish Valve would make an SC clone.


And force you to install a store on your computer to play their game?


What do you think Blizzard marketplace is?


The exact same thing. I love Steam to death and think it is awesome. I am just pointing out that Valve does a lot of the stuff it does for free because they install a store on your PC and then make money off you buying stuff.

Blizzard is looking for some of that. Money coming in after release means better support for a given game.


Activision Blizzard revenue: $4.768 billion per year (US dollars per year) (trailing 12-month value as of June 30, 2011)

Valve's isn't half of that.

And still Valve makes better games =/
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 10:59:33
October 23 2011 10:58 GMT
#311
On October 23 2011 19:18 Teradur wrote:
I don't know about the rest of you, but back in the days, when they announced the whole b.net 2.0 and what they are planning to do with it, I was really excited. I thought they would continiously be working on it, implementing new features, makeingn changes and patches (non-balance) where needed. Now, over a year after release, it is basically still the same. The best change they have made so far, was the update of the observer interface. Still no clans, still no group replays, at times it feels like nobody is working on it at all. So far, Blizzard has not delivered what they promised, overall it feels like a step back compared to WC3. They have taken full controll of the online-experience of the game, but are simply not able to provide the kind of support that, for past games was mostly provided by creative communities.


Agreed on every point. I still just really can't believe that war3's b.net interface (not matchmaking) was and is much better than sc2. B.net 2.0 has always felt cheap to me honestly and I'm just still amazed that after a whole year there has been 0 progress in basic things that were already implemented into the game.

I'd further like to know why the lack of name changing (especially in absence of a clan tag system). There have been previous threads on the official forum and here, BEGGING blizzard to implement a paid name change system and it still has not been done. I think it's honestly crazy that ppl would be asking to pay money for a service that easily could be free, but either way Blizzard has not moved its ass on this and they've been saying it's been on the way for about a year already... >.<
My favorites: Terran - Maru // Protoss - SoS // Zerg - soO ~~~ fighting!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 11:50:55
October 23 2011 11:45 GMT
#312
I don´t get why ppl are still suprised, not to hear substantial Improvements. If you have followed Blizz games for like 15 years or so ( first game that rlly hooked me up was WC1) , it´s hard to realize that a company changes it´s attitude towards their customers so drastically.
But from what i have learned on newer products, and decisions concerning them, im not suprised anymore by anything, concerning "Blizzivision". i mean, are you seriously shocked Lan mode isnt coming in HOTS? im not. neither am i shocked that blizz will sell in-game stuff for Diablo III for real money. This company has just plain changed.
So for everyone who had high expectations to HOTS due to a dwindling, now overcome, idea of blizzards high credibility, innovativeness, user-friendliness, or something alike, i recommend you try to get it off your head. By doing so, im less dissapointed
Broodwar for life!
Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 14:15:52
October 23 2011 13:50 GMT
#313
They got such a huge lust for money it's kinda depressing, this is not the blizzard from my puberty, where you could buy a game blinded.

You should have asked these questions, instead.
-Why you refuse to add lan? If you go into torrent site you are able to find program that allow you to play lan with SC2.
- Why are you still asking for time for clan functionalities? Are you trying to find a way to gain money even with clan functionalities?
- Why don't you add a lag check at selection screen so games aren't ruined by laggers?
- Why don't you add a selection menu when you join custom melee games where you can choose the league which you wanna play with and which race? It is so boring when people leaves at game start or while game is starting, and I'm not claiming I never did it.
-Why you, as a major competitive industry don't join on making the prize pool higher on tournaments, but instead you drain the events organizers?

People, be smart. DON'T BUY DOTA FROM BLIZZARD. Do you want an incomplete game? BUY DOTA FROM VALVE, YOU WILL WAIT MORE TIME BUT AT LEAST YOU WILL HAVE A COMPLETE GAME AND IT WILL BE AMAZING.

VALVE IS THE OLD BLIZZARD.


AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
October 23 2011 14:52 GMT
#314
"the list" sounds like a depressing idea. I don't want to sound super negative, but it's tough to hear them use that excuse for so many new features. Also the complete opposition to LAN even when they see players lagging out in their own tournaments is embarrassing and doesn't make me like them more. I don't know, it's tough because I love this game and most of the time I love Blizzard as well. But sometimes I can never understand their supposed reasoning behind what they do and do not implement.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway547 Posts
October 23 2011 15:03 GMT
#315
On October 23 2011 11:26 vSaUCE wrote:
I'm sorry, but this is just straight horse shit. Even horse mascot knows it. Just more typical commitment dodging and refusal to acknowledge serious issues with the game, particularly Battle.net. I... I don't even understand what their problem is anymore! I mean, God forbid a company ACTUALLY LISTEN to its customers for once and try to act on their concerns. It's like they think we're all over-exaggerating and unnecessarily whining about so many different problems just to be difficult. Well I'll tell you what, people wouldn't whine so much if they could see some ACTUAL PROGRESS for a change.

The community WANTS eSports to be huge.
The community WANTS enhanced Battle.net features and support.
The community WANTS StarCraft 2 to be the "end all, be all" RTS.

But based on Blizzard's actions lately, I think it's obvious that they couldn't care less about what the community wants. They're just a bunch of closed-minded developers who think they know best and claim that they're working on future support, but we still see no results from it.

Yes, you do the hard part, Blizzard. You make the game. None of us could do that. But for the love of God... could it kill you to add a few highly demanded features every once and a while?! Oh yeah, and not just wait every 2-year expansion pack to release them?!!


This is so true, this interview gave me nothing.. How effing hard is it to implement something you have made before?!?

Bnet 0.2.. Jesus
None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
October 23 2011 15:09 GMT
#316
On October 23 2011 19:58 Roflhaxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 12:36 Sinensis wrote:
On October 22 2011 12:23 Plansix wrote:
On October 22 2011 12:18 Sinensis wrote:
On October 22 2011 12:18 Plansix wrote:
On October 22 2011 12:16 Sinensis wrote:
Marketplace and microtransactions higher up on "the list" than stupid basic stuff like clans, group replay, and being able to watch pro games on their client? Are they short on cash or something? Why not just release another special edition mount if that's the case?

I sort of wish Valve would make an SC clone.


And force you to install a store on your computer to play their game?


What do you think Blizzard marketplace is?


The exact same thing. I love Steam to death and think it is awesome. I am just pointing out that Valve does a lot of the stuff it does for free because they install a store on your PC and then make money off you buying stuff.

Blizzard is looking for some of that. Money coming in after release means better support for a given game.


Activision Blizzard revenue: $4.768 billion per year (US dollars per year) (trailing 12-month value as of June 30, 2011)

Valve's isn't half of that.

And still Valve makes better games =/


Also, Valve is a much smaller company. Per employee, they make more than Google or Apple -

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/0228/technology-gabe-newell-videogames-valve-online-mayhem.html

Of course, most of that is from steam, but the point stands.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
Railin
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada96 Posts
October 23 2011 15:51 GMT
#317
Blizz q&a's like this one which more or less point out how other companies such as Riot, Valve are leaving them in the dust with their interface, user experience and support.


Ahahah, you did NOT seriously call Riot a company with good "interface" and "user experience"? Battlenet is MILES ahead of Riot interface. LoL has no replay feature at all (unless you use a 3rd party mod!!), pvp.net or game client is crashing or has issues every 2nd day, and they STILL have not implemented observer mode that they have been promising for 2 years - a feature that Guild Wars had already back in 2005!

Not saying League is not an amazing game, because it is, and I love it, but feature wise Riot's system cannot even be compared to battlenet.
~~femFxRailin~~ "Sc2 strategies have an interesting history of being developed in Europe, perfected in Korea, and used on unsuspecting Americans" [Tree.Hugger]
FetusFondler
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States246 Posts
October 23 2011 16:10 GMT
#318
Blizzard has done nothing but disappoint me in the past few years (SC & WoW mainly). Their overall quality of games compared to about 10 years ago has been on the decline, and instead they just focus on milking more and more money from their customers while providing the bare-minimum. I really hope that they can go back to their roots to what made them a great gaming industry, but I don't see that happening.
None are so busy as the fool and knave.
Jerglings
Profile Joined September 2010
United States104 Posts
October 23 2011 16:14 GMT
#319
On October 22 2011 11:45 Kennigit wrote:
Blizzard Arcade
The new name for the market place to release premium blizzard content and user content. Blizzard Dota will be the first major Blizzard release which will come around HotS. They will have some ranking/rating features and will have a system to make sure only good user-submitted content is being charged for.


Haha, oh wow. They were actually serious about charging for maps? Gaming today: Killing fun one micro-transaction at a time.
"I'd rather find out my wife was cheating on me than keep losing like this. At least I could tell my wife to cut it out."
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 16:19:52
October 23 2011 16:15 GMT
#320
It's pretty obvious that Blizzard is just trying to do as little work as possible on the game, without losing sales from it, so they can save money by not having too many people working on the game.

They basically know that no one will skip HotS due too lack of some of these features, so they feel no rush implementing them. I personally feel this is a really shitty attitude to have as a company. Not trying to do the best game possible, but instead just try to getting away with doing the "bare minimum"

I used to be a fan of Blizzard. Not just their games, but a fan of the company as a whole. Now though, I have lost all faith in the company, as I feel that Blizzard simply does not give a shit about their customers.
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