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The Liquid Weekly #35

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Graphics byKennigit
April 21st, 2011 09:02 GMT

From Istanbul to Incheon.

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Quick Links

Liquid` Sightings

Going Global
Liquid on a Plane.

TLO Withdraws from EPS
Official statement included.

This Week In Replays



Liquid at Copenhagen Games - Today


Our two European representatives, TLAF-Liquid`TLO and TLAF-Liquid`Ret will be in Copenhagen today to begin their run at the Copenhagen Games 2011 title. Rubbing shoulders with the likes of MC, TheWind, Grubby, ClouD and MorroW, they will fight it out for the $8500+ prize pool. [More]

Liquid in StarsWar - 23rd April 2011


TLAF-Liquid`Jinro, TLAF-Liquid`TLO, TLAF-Liquid`Ret and TLAF-Liquid`HuK will be on stream live during StarsWar today, playing against the likes of HongUn, MorroW, Comm and san in this invitational tournament, the winners of which will fly to Shanghai, China for the finals. [More]

Liquid in GSL - 23rd and 26th April 2011


GSL May kicked off this week and two Liquidians will be taking to the tilesets in Code-S this time. It's been a while since we've had two of our players in this category and we look forward to seeing what Jinro and HuK can deliver. Jinro plays San on the 23rd and HuK gears up to take on Inca on the 26th. [More]

Liquid in NASL - On going


TLAF-Liquid`TLO snagged the sole win for his team in NASL Week 1, going 2-0 against ViBE. HayprO, Ret and Tyler all dropped their games and no doubt go into Week 2 looking for retribution. [More]



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Liquid at Copenhagen Games - Today


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Our two European representatives, TLAF-Liquid`TLO and TLAF-Liquid`Ret will be in Copenhagen today to begin their run at the Copenhagen Games 2011 title. Rubbing shoulders with the likes of MC, TheWind, Grubby, ClouD and MorroW, they will fight it out for the $8500+ prize pool.

TLO and Ret have both been successful in European LANs these past few months, and we'd like to see them go all the way this time. Here are our two heroes' opening matches. Join us in the LR thread and on IRC in just a few hours as we follow their progress live and check out tournament thread for more information.

Group 14
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Group 16
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Liquid in StarsWar - 23rd April 2011


TLAF-Liquid`Jinro, TLAF-Liquid`TLO, TLAF-Liquid`Ret and TLAF-Liquid`HuK will be on stream live during StarsWar today, playing against the likes of HongUn, MorroW, Comm and san in this invitational tournament, the winners of which will fly to Shanghai, China for the semi-finals and finals.

If the $8400 prize pool doesn't convince you, just look at these brackets.

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This many good player, yes?

Be sure to be here with us on TL as we watch our team storm another tournament. Liquid fighting!


Liquid in GSL - 23rd and 26th April 2011


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GSL May kicked off this week and two Liquidians will be taking to the tilesets in Code-S this time. It's been a while since we've had two of our players in this category and we look forward to seeing what Jinro and HuK can deliver. Jinro plays San on the 23rd and HuK gears up to take on Inca on the 26th.

Having recently returned from the Dreamhack Stockholm Invitational, Jinro and HuK sat down with us for a chat about the GSL and their international adventures in Going Global. Here are their games, so be sure you're here on Saturday and Tuesday to root for them live. It's GSL time again!

Group E
[image loading] (T)TLAF-Liquid`Jinro vs. [image loading] (P)NSHoSeo_San
[image loading] (T)TSL_Clide vs. [image loading] (Z)IMNesTea

Group H
[image loading] (Z)ST_July vs. [image loading] (T)TSL_Rain
[image loading] (P)TLAF-Liquid`HuK vs. [image loading] (P)oGs.InCa


Liquid in NASL - On going


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TLAF-Liquid`TLO snagged the sole win for his team in NASL Week 1, going 2-0 against ViBE. HayprO, Ret and Tyler all dropped their games and no doubt go into Week 2 looking for retribution.

TLO played his Week 2 match earlier today, but the LW will not discuss his games for fear of spoiling readers. Check out the LR thread for discussion and be sure to catch Liquid's upcoming games this week!

North America: April 20th at 9pm EDT / Europe: April 21st at 7pm CEST
[image loading] (T)TLAF-Liquid`TLO vs. [image loading] (Z)mouzMorroW

North America: April 22nd at 9pm EDT / Europe: April 23rd at 7pm CEST
[image loading] (Z)TLAF-Liquid`HayprO vs. [image loading](Z)ROOTSLush

North America: April 23rd at 9pm EDT / Europe: April 24th at 7pm CEST
[image loading] (Z)TLAF-Liquid`Ret vs. [image loading] (P)oGsMC

North America: April 24th at 9pm EDT / Europe: April 25th at 7pm CEST
[image loading] (P)TLAF-Liquid`Tyler vs. [image loading] (T)ROOTDrewbie



Liquid at DreamHack Stockholm Invitational - Event Finished


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Liquid's Dreamhack run didn't go as expected, with Jinro, TLO and HuK all being eliminated early on. Though we're as disappointed as they are about this, we're glad they had a good time in Stockholm. Yes, last week we announced that TLO is starting a team house over there and in case you missed it, here's Jinro in the newspapers and on Swedish TV.

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Find out more about Jinro, HuK and MC's adventures as they headed back to Korea in this week'spre-GSL interview.



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Look out, Samuel L. Jackson.

(Note: Liquid flew Turkish Airlines both to and from Dreamhack. The Starcraft plane is only shown here because it's awesome.)

Hi Jinro, Hi HuK! Welcome back to the Weekly. Happy to be back home in Incheon again?

Jinro: Of course!

HuK: Yes.


We heard the flight back wasn't too pleasant. What went wrong? Any lessons learned?

HuK: We missed our connection flight because the first flight was delayed due to problems with the plane. Not sure what it was, but it seemed serious. Once in Istanbul, we were herded with the rest of the cattle to try to rush to our connection flight, fail and that our flight was going to be a day later and that we would be spending the night in Turkey.

MC and Jinro passed by fine but when I went to cross the passport guy told me I needed to go back and get a visa. So I go to the visa place and try to get a visa and they tell me to take out money from the ATM. I go to the ATM and it wont accept my Canadian bank card or my Korean bank card.

I proceed back to the visa place and am told to go back to my airline. My airline tells me go back to the visa place, the visa place says they cant help me and the guy from the airline who escorted me basically bailed after that. I then go back to the passport guy and tell him what's going on. He says he cant help me to go to the police station on the other side.

So I go back to my airline desk (on the walk there I explain the situation to him) and once we get there the guy talks to someone at the counter then proceeds to walk away with them never to return. Afterwards, I meet Jinro at passport clearing and tell him to take out money for me.

He returns later with Turkish money. I tell him that I needed euro, and he goes back and brings me some. Then, the passport guy wont let us exchange money over the little shitty fucking gate they have there. He tells us to walk down to the police station to exchange the measly 60 euro or whatever the fuck it was. After convincing the policemen to let him give me the money, I go to buy my visa and cross the border. At every point, every single person involved in this process was extremely rude, unhelpful, and generally, an asshole.

After that, the stay and flight back were pleasant.


Jinro: OK, so we are all just sitting there waiting at Arlanda and everything seems normal, right? Then, we get to 30 minutes before boarding and there's not a single airport staff member in the entire room, and a bunch of people are starting to wonder wtf is going on. Sooooo, after not finding a single board with information anywhere, and the board over our gate saying LONDON instead of ISTANBUL, I venture up a staircase, find a security type guy who lets me through to check out an info board. Here we discover two things:

1) They changed the gate for our flight without telling anyone (same room, but still).

2) Our plane has a smoking engine. Cue 1+ hour delay.

We land in Istanbul, they fuck around a bunch about where we are supposed to go, we miss our plane. We try to go through customs, they let me and MC through but tell Chris they don't like him because hes American (actually they just said he needs a VISA), and tell him to pay for a VISA. He tries to grab money from ATM, fails with both Korean and American card, asks me to grab money... I search half the airport, find out I have to go outside the airport to take out money, ask if I can come back in if I do, get told no.

Go on tilt, talk to another guy who tells me first guy was incorrect. I get 100e in Turkish Lire, run back to Chris, only to be told that no, they do not accept Turkish lire. What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency? OK, back to ATM, find a different one that lets me take out euro instead, run back, give money to Chris... or I would have but the customs guys stops me and tells me I have to go through the police to give it to him.

... which I eventually succeed at doing. They find us a hotel (which had very nice food, and was nice overall), and we spend the next day playing Wesnoth on my laptop while waiting for our plane which didn't leave until midnight.


Jinro, you begin your GSL Code S run this month against San. How do you feel about this match?

Jinro: I feel I have a scary group but if I can win the first game I have a decent chance, so I'm focusing on that.


If you look back at the first time you played Code S, what similarities and differences do you see between your approach back then and the way you look at the event now?

It's routine now... basically.


If there was one thing you could tell your rookie self as you headed out to play your first Code S match, what would it be?

Not much to tell, I was super prepared practice wise and everything else comes from doing not hearing.

Awesome. Good luck on Saturday, Jinro! We look forward to seeing you live!


HuK, this is your first time in Code S and you're going to face your house mate Inca. What are your thoughts on this series? Will the fact that you know him so well make it easier or more difficult to play him?

HuK: I think Inca is the favorite, his PvP is really good. But I hope to do well overall and move on. It's PvP so nothing matters.


What does it feel like heading into GSL Code S? This was your goal all along of course, but now that you're here, just a week away from your games, what's going through your head?

My goal was to win GSL, not make it to Code S. All that's on my mind is to continue that pursuit.


You've played a ton of tournaments this past year. Does the GSL feel any different to you or is it just same old, same old to you now?

Well, the GSL is obviously the golden egg among white shells but other than that it's another tournament. The biggest, sure, but in the end they're all the same.

All right! Good luck, HuK! We look forward to seeing you on stream next Tuesday.



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As already announced by the ESL, Liquid player Dario "Liquid`TLO" Wünsch confirms his withdrawal from the German ESL Professional Series. Dario will not be able to play in the tournament due to a scheduling conflict with MLG Columbus, a tournament that he has to participate in due to contractual obligations.

The exact dates for EPS were not publicly announced but the week was (and the weekend as such was implied). This lead to a communication problem where the fact that it would most likely be in the MLG weekend slipped by our scheduling until two weeks ago. At this moment Dario was already committed to MLG because of his sponsor Sony Ericsson. At the time of hearing the EPS dates, at that point still not publicly announced but only implied, we heard about the exact dates from someone with insider knowledge making us aware of the scheduling conflicts between the two tournaments. We immediately informed the EPS of this issue and they asked for some time to think of a solution.

You are hearing about Dario withdrawing 8 days in advance not because we waited that long, but because EPS used this time to look for a solution. Near the end of this internal EPS process; TL and EPS agreed to an announcement date on the 21st of April, something which they failed to adhere to and as such delivered an incomplete press release that did not give us a fair chance to explain the situation.

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Contrary to popular belief, Dario cannot be in two places at the same time.

Here is Dario's official statement on the matter.

Wie nun bereits frühzeitig angekündigt wurde, werde ich mich leider aus der EPS zurückziehen müssen, da die EPS Finals und MLG Columbus am gleichen Wochenende stattfinden. Vertragliche Verpflichtungen binden mich daran an jeder MLG teilzunehmen, daher kann ich leider keine Ausnahme machen. Ich bin sehr traurig darüber und kann verstehen das die Community sauer ist.

Ich habe nie um eine Sonderbehandlung gefragt, bin aber sehr dankbar das die ESL mir so eine Chance gegeben hat. Ich hoffe, das große Turnierveranstalter sich künftig besser absprechen um in der Zukunft so etwas zu vermeiden.

Es stand für mich außer Frage weiterhin an der EPS teilzunehmen und das Turnier eventuell noch stärker zu verzerren. Ich möchte mich bei allen die sich auf das IFNG Match zwischen Socke und mir gefreut haben entschuldigen und auch bei Socke selbst der nun vorerst keine chance auf eine Revanche bekommen kann.

Dario Wünsch, 21st April 2011

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As already announced by ESL, I have to withdraw from the EPS. I am very sorry about that but I am obliged to go to every MLG event. I am very sad and can understand the community is angry, especially those who wanted to go to the INFG and can't see me play vs Socke now.

I never asked for a extra treatment from the ESL, but I am very grateful they gave me such a great chance. I hope in the future that the big event organisers will communicate better to avoid scheduling conflicts like this from happening.

It was out of question for me to continue playing EPS after knowing that I wouldn't be able to make it to the finals, as I didn't want to mess up the tournament even more. To my fans I would like to say that I'm truly sorry and want to take this opportunity to apologise to Socke as well. I was looking forward to a rematch of Dallas.

Dario Wünsch, 21st April 2011




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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
April 21 2011 09:07 GMT
#2
Awesome as per usual, thanks!
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Sigmur
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland497 Posts
April 21 2011 09:07 GMT
#3
Awesome, Tyler's rep pack. Much appreciated!
sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 09:11:03
April 21 2011 09:07 GMT
#4
Can't watch Jinro's interview . (Nvm got it working)

Thanks for the updates!
BasilPesto
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 09:11:27
April 21 2011 09:11 GMT
#5
On April 21 2011 18:02 riptide wrote:
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Contrary to popular belief, Dario cannot be in two places at the same time.



For shame TeamLiquid, for shame.

More investment into cloning technology plz.
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viii
Profile Joined March 2011
United States266 Posts
April 21 2011 09:17 GMT
#6
That sucks, i really hate it when tournaments' schedule conflict.
Well at least they have a replay pack! yea
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
April 21 2011 09:22 GMT
#7
So, bottom line, TLO's sponsorship deal with Sony Ericcson is preventing him from being able to participate in EPS. Sadness.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 21 2011 09:25 GMT
#8
tournament schedule concflicts... <.<
seriously, tournament organizers should communicate more with each other before setting a date for a big event...
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
April 21 2011 09:37 GMT
#9
What would be absolutely amazing would be Jinro's interview with subtitles.
Ace newsletter anyways!
MaYuu
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Sweden516 Posts
April 21 2011 09:49 GMT
#10
I guess it's a matter of what league is more prestigious as well. Even though MLG had it's bumps, it beats any non-international league. I'm glad TLO gets to travel to MLG
ehh`?
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 21 2011 09:51 GMT
#11
Lol, sounds like a fun flight. :D

Good weekly as always!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
lasto
Profile Joined September 2010
141 Posts
April 21 2011 10:08 GMT
#12
It is shitty what happened to Huk/Jinro at the airport. I would rage so hard if it happen to me.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
April 21 2011 10:13 GMT
#13
Awesome. Jinro plays Battle for Wesnoth.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
April 21 2011 10:18 GMT
#14
Turkish Airlanes and the airport of Istanbul are the worst things that happened to me while traveling. They are unorganized and rude. Can't blame you guys for hating on them, they deserve it.

Also sad to hear that TLO can't participate in the EPS Finals, but contracts always have a downside...
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 10:25:10
April 21 2011 10:24 GMT
#15
On April 21 2011 18:37 TigerKarl wrote:
What would be absolutely amazing would be Jinro's interview with subtitles.
Ace newsletter anyways!


That interview was so awkward due to reporters lack of insight into gaming world. Jinro tried his best but... It is best left unwatched.

Thank you so much for Liquid Weekly, I look forward to it all week!
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
April 21 2011 10:28 GMT
#16
Lol at turkish doesnt accept turkish currency... though it saddens me when i think about our bureaucrats most likely would be just as an obstacle in any way :S
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
April 21 2011 10:42 GMT
#17
How come Turkish doesn't accept Turkish currency lol
It's a shame that esl doesn't include TLO's statement. Not the first time they do this though.

Jinro fighting!
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marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
April 21 2011 10:47 GMT
#18
So this is basically the announcement we were supossed to be waiting for? This doesnt change things at all nor does it make TLO look any better, he is basically just saying: hey im sorry T_T
Im still very sad and disaoppointed since the IFNG in Berlin would have been the first and maybe the single time ever that I could have TLO play -.-
But what is most frustrating is the date of the announcement, why just 8 days before the game vs Socke?? Me and my friends are probably still going to the IFNG but everything is just much less exciting without TLO vs Socke

Still a nice weekly; the most awesome sentence of the Jinro/Huk interview: "What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency?" ahahaha
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
April 21 2011 10:57 GMT
#19
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~

User was warned for this post
@nowSimon
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
April 21 2011 11:02 GMT
#20
Great afternoon for studyOOOOH REPLAYS!
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 21 2011 11:09 GMT
#21
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^
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DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
April 21 2011 11:11 GMT
#22
Lol, great weekly as usual, interesting story from the Dreahackers
So many tournaments!
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eloist
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 11:18:32
April 21 2011 11:11 GMT
#23
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
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On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^

You guys find this acceptable? I think it's extremely bad form. You can't just sign stuff left and right and then go 'ooops'.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 21 2011 11:18 GMT
#24
On April 21 2011 20:11 eloist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^

You guys find this acceptable?


it's a really hard call to make imho... you either pass on german EPS which definately is very prestigous among the german community or you tell a fucking huge mobile phone company that they cannot sponsor you and fly you to every MLG this year

i wouldn't want to be in that situation, but i think i'd go with the same decision TLO has made
Kevmeister @ Dota2
eloist
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 11:27:48
April 21 2011 11:21 GMT
#25
On April 21 2011 20:18 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 20:11 eloist wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^

You guys find this acceptable?


it's a really hard call to make imho... you either pass on german EPS which definately is very prestigous among the german community or you tell a fucking huge mobile phone company that they cannot sponsor you and fly you to every MLG this year

i wouldn't want to be in that situation, but i think i'd go with the same decision TLO has made

I'm sure signing up for the EPS is not a 'maybe if I have time' sort of commitment?

A no show when someone rents out a major event location for your match is bad form no matter what.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
April 21 2011 11:24 GMT
#26
Terran image for Haypro+Tyler replay pack ? Mindfuck XD
The legend of Darien lives on
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
April 21 2011 11:32 GMT
#27
Just updated the EPS section with more information on what happened and why we took the stance we did. We want everyone to know the full story before making any conclusions.
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eloist
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1017 Posts
April 21 2011 11:38 GMT
#28
On April 21 2011 20:32 riptide wrote:
Just <a href="http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=214934#tloeps">updated the EPS section</a> with more information on what happened and why we took the stance we did. We want everyone to know the full story before making any conclusions.

Well I suppose they should announce their dates earlier.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
April 21 2011 11:40 GMT
#29
I don't know anyone at readmore and fragster but if you're reading this please update our statement for complete information.
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Wizdom_SC2Cast
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany26 Posts
April 21 2011 12:11 GMT
#30
"What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency?"

This made me laugh so hard :D! Awesome liquid'weekly.
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ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
April 21 2011 12:18 GMT
#31
Good good, and I actually understand TLO's reason. I'm glad + Show Spoiler +
MC won dreamhack
anyways.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 21 2011 12:45 GMT
#32
Liquid Fighting!
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stephls
Profile Joined December 2010
United States241 Posts
April 21 2011 12:48 GMT
#33
Glad the TLO withdrawal was explained. Kind of unprofessional for EPS to give a incomplete press release about it before the agreed upon day. Its a perfectly understandable reason that they tried to work out, yet their article didn't sound that way. Lame.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
April 21 2011 12:50 GMT
#34
On April 21 2011 18:11 BasilPesto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 18:02 riptide wrote:
[image loading]
Contrary to popular belief, Dario cannot be in two places at the same time.



For shame TeamLiquid, for shame.

More investment into cloning technology plz.


Seriously, wtf is this shit. Wheres the big one.
Jaedong :3
Tekkerz
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom216 Posts
April 21 2011 13:00 GMT
#35
do you guys actually have a plane?!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 21 2011 13:02 GMT
#36
On April 21 2011 22:00 Tekkerz wrote:
do you guys actually have a plane?!


i doubt they'd have problems at the istanbul airport then
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 13:09:05
April 21 2011 13:04 GMT
#37
Tournament lineup is stacked! So many good tournaments all over the world, Denmark, China, Korea, USA, Germany... goddamn.

Turkish airlines are pretty shit, I know that from my own experience. >_> Pleasant country, otherwise.

Concerning TLO's scheduling issues... on the one hand, he applied for the EPS before making his contract with Sony Ericsson, so I feel like his priority should lie with the previous appointment, especially considering his history with the EPS. The EPS' prize money is also larger than that of MLG Columbus (12.000€ vs $14.000)...

Looks like TL decided that the money and connections from the Sony Ericsson contract take priority. It's a shit thing to happen, and people will have to find some solution for this in the future because these scheduling conflicts between long-running leagues and one-off tournaments will continue to emerge as the sheer volume of events increases.
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 13:09:57
April 21 2011 13:09 GMT
#38
On April 21 2011 19:47 marcesr wrote:why just 8 days before the game vs Socke??


Well, I don't know, maybe it's because MLG just posted the official schedule for MLG Columbus? ........ Maybe...
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
April 21 2011 13:10 GMT
#39
The StarsWar is filled with some wicked players. Lot of Chinese Unknowns too. Only Loner that I recognize. Best of luck to TLO in the Copenhagen Games, there is a random in his group? TLO is going to be on top of that. Gogo Tyler in the NASL. Goooooo Liquid'!

The replay pack picture shows a Terran demolishing a Zerg, but there is no Terran in the replay pack? Hahaha.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
April 21 2011 13:55 GMT
#40
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^


yup.


I'm sure signing up for the EPS is not a 'maybe if I have time' sort of commitment?

A no show when someone rents out a major event location for your match is bad form no matter what.


sure it's a commitment of some sort but sometimes you have to move on and set priorities. MLG is obviously much more important than EPS (bigger audience, international competition, personal sponsorship).
@nowSimon
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 14:22:39
April 21 2011 14:00 GMT
#41
As the post explains we were never put in the position to make a choice or priority between either. He has a contractual obligation for MLG but if contracts did not play a role at all here we would always choose to finish what we started.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 21 2011 14:28 GMT
#42
the german esl news is SO bad they not write anything about mlg and make everyone think tlo just not care and they rage about tlo

damn i really hate esl for write so stupid news without anything in ...

thx TL for making good news !!!
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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
April 21 2011 14:33 GMT
#43
He could have intentionally lost against Socke and probably no one would even notice. I'm satisfied this is being handled upfront.

Also, would you share which airline screwed up the boys? Given the stopover on IST I'd assume it was Turkish Airlines, if so consider the Korean Air picture might give a wrong impression.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 21 2011 14:35 GMT
#44
Oh just MLG, was expecting some big announcement due to you waiting until Liquid Weekly to make your statement
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 14:38:12
April 21 2011 14:37 GMT
#45
While reading this, the legal scholar in me just started feeling a strong urge to sue the hell out of both the airline and the airport lol. Beside police officers there are only aiport-employees that think it's a given that they can treat everyone like crap if they feel like it. Disgusting.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
April 21 2011 14:42 GMT
#46
Yesssss America has dibs on TLO. I'm so happy he's coming to MLG's :D
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 21 2011 14:49 GMT
#47
On April 21 2011 20:11 eloist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^

You guys find this acceptable? I think it's extremely bad form. You can't just sign stuff left and right and then go 'ooops'.

Its not like they knew this schedule conflict would happen when they signed the contract lol

OF COURSE this is acceptable.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
April 21 2011 14:50 GMT
#48
You Europeans really need to figure out that whole human cloning thing so we can have more TLO.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 21 2011 14:52 GMT
#49
On April 21 2011 19:18 DoXa wrote:
Turkish Airlanes and the airport of Istanbul are the worst things that happened to me while traveling. They are unorganized and rude. Can't blame you guys for hating on them, they deserve it.

Also sad to hear that TLO can't participate in the EPS Finals, but contracts always have a downside...

Really a mirror of our own experience -_-; Turkish Airlines on-board staff = no complaints at all, good food too... However the guys working at the customs check... God, so unhelpful -__-

At least we found a few helpful souls at the airport, seemingly nicer the further you get away from customs!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Astans
Profile Joined October 2010
205 Posts
April 21 2011 15:01 GMT
#50
Contrary to popular belief, Dario cannot be in two places at the same time.


Dario needs to work on his APM.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 21 2011 15:04 GMT
#51
On April 22 2011 00:01 Astans wrote:
Show nested quote +
Contrary to popular belief, Dario cannot be in two places at the same time.


Dario needs to work on his APM.

Yeah, he'll never win a MLG with that sort of multitasking.
.ths
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
April 21 2011 15:07 GMT
#52
On April 21 2011 22:09 lurked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 19:47 marcesr wrote:why just 8 days before the game vs Socke??


Well, I don't know, maybe it's because MLG just posted the official schedule for MLG Columbus? ........ Maybe...


Wait, what? The weekend of MLG Columbus has been known for months now. Maybe I'm not understanding your meaning.
SeraKuDA
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada343 Posts
April 21 2011 15:14 GMT
#53
Perhaps he meant only. Though he could just be wrong as well.
Idnan
Profile Joined November 2010
54 Posts
April 21 2011 15:16 GMT
#54
<3 HuK <3 I am sure you win GSL!
So bad that TLO cant play EPS :[[[[
SweetenemY
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany136 Posts
April 21 2011 15:20 GMT
#55
What about an International Tournament Schedule , where the hosts of a bigger events puplish their dates very early, so that everyone planning another tournament may take a look and say "damn, there is already a big final at this weekend, maybe we have to postpone our own event for a week"
Skill is, when luck gets a matter of habit
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 21 2011 15:29 GMT
#56
If we could clone TLO we could make each clone play a different race.
TLO Zerg vs TLO Terran....
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
April 21 2011 15:39 GMT
#57
Love these weeklies so much, Sorry to hear about the flight problems. Poor Huk, Jinro and MC.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
April 21 2011 15:51 GMT
#58
I know KoreanAir has the SC jet but is Teamliquid really on that plane or was that PS?
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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
April 21 2011 16:01 GMT
#59
Nice misadventures.
Good work making these weeklies.
I read all of them [:
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Nicodemusher
Profile Joined November 2010
United States188 Posts
April 21 2011 16:03 GMT
#60
What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency?

I died.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 21 2011 16:10 GMT
#61
Hahaha hilarious interview with HuK/Jinro. Sucks to hear it though, delays and unhelpful people while traveling is the worst.

Understandable situation with TLO, not really sure why people would be hating on him/TL for it. The SC2 eSport scene is so new that tournament schedule conflicts are bound to happen until everything gets a little more organized internationally.

Thanks for the replays! HayprO/Tyler nom nom. Good weekly as always!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 21 2011 16:12 GMT
#62
nice writeup! Shame about TLO but it is what it is... glad to have him at MLG.
AEsgaims
Profile Joined November 2010
United States237 Posts
April 21 2011 16:19 GMT
#63
i guess we learned a lesson about traveling through turkey...

thanks for the replays!
fueNN
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 16:38:54
April 21 2011 16:38 GMT
#64
On April 21 2011 23:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 20:11 eloist wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^

You guys find this acceptable? I think it's extremely bad form. You can't just sign stuff left and right and then go 'ooops'.

Its not like they knew this schedule conflict would happen when they signed the contract lol

OF COURSE this is acceptable.


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.

User was temp banned for this post.
Nicodemusher
Profile Joined November 2010
United States188 Posts
April 21 2011 16:53 GMT
#65
On April 22 2011 01:38 fueNN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 23:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:11 eloist wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^

You guys find this acceptable? I think it's extremely bad form. You can't just sign stuff left and right and then go 'ooops'.

Its not like they knew this schedule conflict would happen when they signed the contract lol

OF COURSE this is acceptable.


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.

How the hell did he give them the middle finger? Do you not understand how a contract works? And on a far more basic level, why would you think TLO would NOT want to compete? These arguments that TLO is a dick for doing this are completely absurd.
xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 16:55:34
April 21 2011 16:54 GMT
#66
On April 22 2011 01:38 fueNN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 23:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:11 eloist wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^

You guys find this acceptable? I think it's extremely bad form. You can't just sign stuff left and right and then go 'ooops'.

Its not like they knew this schedule conflict would happen when they signed the contract lol

OF COURSE this is acceptable.


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.


Do you even understand what a contract is? If TLO doesn't go to MLG, he can be sued and lose everything he owns. It's is completely acceptable he had to drop out of ESL, but unfortunate.

edit - Got ninja'd
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 17:06:59
April 21 2011 17:03 GMT
#67
Link to the EPS announcement?

I sympathize with you guys trying to deal with customs at the airport in Istanbul. I flew through there a few years ago and had similar problems. I had a 3 hour layover with some German colleagues, and we all wanted to go out and have a kebab or something and just tool around Istanbul for a bit. The Germans could go through customs just fine and dandy, but they wanted me (the American) to buy a $30 Visa. For two hours in Turkey? Are you fucking crazy? I pretty much told those customs officers to fuck themselves.

Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 17:22:10
April 21 2011 17:14 GMT
#68
On April 22 2011 01:38 fueNN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 23:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:11 eloist wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^

You guys find this acceptable? I think it's extremely bad form. You can't just sign stuff left and right and then go 'ooops'.

Its not like they knew this schedule conflict would happen when they signed the contract lol

OF COURSE this is acceptable.


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.


Is it acceptable that the ESL still has not announced a set date for the EPS finals but just the Week? Imagine if every Tournament organizer would do that (and then say: "oh but you know our tournament is always on wednesday, didn't you know that?). Especially as they know the date for like a year already, why don't they write it in public then?

The cancelled IFNG match obviously really sucks but the ESL was informed about the schedule conflict way before the Poll ended (or maybe even before it began, but I think it was shortly after, however it was 100% before the 1st round of playdown matches were played)... so it was ESL not reacting to the information quickly enough to avoid the situation we have now (don't really want to speculate about their reasons, it most certainly was with good intentions trying to find a better solution).

And ESL changing the rules to accomodate TLO is really not you can hold against him, as the ESL did that without even informing him and in their own interest.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 21 2011 17:56 GMT
#69
On April 22 2011 01:38 fueNN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 23:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:11 eloist wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^

You guys find this acceptable? I think it's extremely bad form. You can't just sign stuff left and right and then go 'ooops'.

Its not like they knew this schedule conflict would happen when they signed the contract lol

OF COURSE this is acceptable.


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.


Wow...be more butt-hurt about this, please. Do you not understand the legal obligations of a contract? TLO has to attend MLG because of a contractual obligation to his sponsor, Sony Ericsson. It's not personal and he's not giving you or anybody else the middle finger. Get over yourself.

It's unfortunate he had to cancel, for everybody's sake, but unavoidable at this point. We can only hope things like this happen less often once international eSports become more organized.
CardinalSC
Profile Joined January 2011
United States145 Posts
April 21 2011 18:20 GMT
#70
Where did TLO get that bomb jacket? Looks sweet.

Oh and TL FIGHTING
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
April 21 2011 18:46 GMT
#71
On April 21 2011 23:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 19:18 DoXa wrote:
Turkish Airlanes and the airport of Istanbul are the worst things that happened to me while traveling. They are unorganized and rude. Can't blame you guys for hating on them, they deserve it.

Also sad to hear that TLO can't participate in the EPS Finals, but contracts always have a downside...

Really a mirror of our own experience -_-; Turkish Airlines on-board staff = no complaints at all, good food too... However the guys working at the customs check... God, so unhelpful -__-

At least we found a few helpful souls at the airport, seemingly nicer the further you get away from customs!


welcome to turkey, lol
im turkish, and what i can tell is, that the people at the airports are some completely idiot and unhelpful ppl. but pls dont think whole turkey is like that, it isnt, turkish ppl are "usually" really helpful. Somehow the airport guys are faggots.
just my 2 cents
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Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
April 21 2011 18:56 GMT
#72
I feel for HuK, VISA paperworks can be painfull , VERY.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 21 2011 19:08 GMT
#73
Tyler replay pack how exciting! TLO such a celebrity with his Sony sponsor, glad he will be attending MLG!
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
April 21 2011 19:25 GMT
#74
Glad to finally have some word on the side of the TLO/ESL drama. I wonder why ESL chose to release the information before the agreed-upon date.

It's really too bad that the scheduling conflict occurred and TLO has to remove himself from the tournament. A contract is a contract though.

Liquid fighting!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
April 21 2011 19:30 GMT
#75
they let me and MC through but tell Chris they don't like him because hes American


Poor HuK.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 19:36:31
April 21 2011 19:33 GMT
#76
On April 22 2011 01:38 fueNN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 23:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:11 eloist wrote:
On April 21 2011 20:09 FliedLice wrote:
On April 21 2011 19:57 drooL wrote:
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~


let's stay here ^-^

You guys find this acceptable? I think it's extremely bad form. You can't just sign stuff left and right and then go 'ooops'.

Its not like they knew this schedule conflict would happen when they signed the contract lol

OF COURSE this is acceptable.


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.

User was temp banned for this post.

Wow you are an idiot.

If he had decided to not go to MLG, he would have been breaking his contract - so you would have most likely said the same thing then too.

Good ban whomever made it.

On April 22 2011 03:46 ZeraToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 23:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On April 21 2011 19:18 DoXa wrote:
Turkish Airlanes and the airport of Istanbul are the worst things that happened to me while traveling. They are unorganized and rude. Can't blame you guys for hating on them, they deserve it.

Also sad to hear that TLO can't participate in the EPS Finals, but contracts always have a downside...

Really a mirror of our own experience -_-; Turkish Airlines on-board staff = no complaints at all, good food too... However the guys working at the customs check... God, so unhelpful -__-

At least we found a few helpful souls at the airport, seemingly nicer the further you get away from customs!


welcome to turkey, lol
im turkish, and what i can tell is, that the people at the airports are some completely idiot and unhelpful ppl. but pls dont think whole turkey is like that, it isnt, turkish ppl are "usually" really helpful. Somehow the airport guys are faggots.
just my 2 cents

Yeah, Turkey gave a pretty good impression the further away you got from the customs.

Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Scrutinizer
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
April 21 2011 20:03 GMT
#77
On April 22 2011 01:03 Nicodemusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency?

I died.


It is for the foreigners who needs a Visa to enter the country, it is not weird that it won't be paid in local currency. It is in fact a convenience for the foreigners, I cant imagine a foreigner could pay for the visa in their own country's currency at John F. Kennedy airport.

On April 22 2011 02:03 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
Link to the EPS announcement?

I sympathize with you guys trying to deal with customs at the airport in Istanbul. I flew through there a few years ago and had similar problems. I had a 3 hour layover with some German colleagues, and we all wanted to go out and have a kebab or something and just tool around Istanbul for a bit. The Germans could go through customs just fine and dandy, but they wanted me (the American) to buy a $30 Visa. For two hours in Turkey? Are you fucking crazy? I pretty much told those customs officers to fuck themselves.

Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story.


Wow hold on there, do you have any idea how are the citizens of Turkey are treated in customs of States, and how difficult it is to acquire a visa even after the needlessly harsh treatment. And you can bet that it wont end good for you if you tell the US customs staff to fuck themselves.

I am sure a lot of turkish officials at the customs are assholes, and as Jinro already put, them and their attitudes were the only problem. But that doesn't imply any more things than that.

That is not directly about the political relations you kinda mentioned, it is more about this undisclosed "treat the x country's citizens as our citizens are treated at x" thing in customs. Especially the retarded assholes amongst the turkish customs officials can only be happy to proceed the way their counterparts at the US do.


"Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story."

You can talk about a story that even you mention that you don't know about? that is neat.
Turkey has been one of the founding countries of NATO, it was a member before Western Germany or Spain, There has even been a Turkish Deputy Secretary General for NATO.

Peace-out.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 20:05:16
April 21 2011 20:04 GMT
#78
Whoa, Jinro and HuK play Wesnoth. How awesome is that. xD

Who won btw?
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 20:23:44
April 21 2011 20:21 GMT
#79
On April 22 2011 05:03 Scrutinizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 01:03 Nicodemusher wrote:
What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency?

I died.


It is for the foreigners who needs a Visa to enter the country, it is not weird that it won't be paid in local currency. It is in fact a convenience for the foreigners, I cant imagine a foreigner could pay for the visa in their own country's currency at John F. Kennedy airport.

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 02:03 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
Link to the EPS announcement?

I sympathize with you guys trying to deal with customs at the airport in Istanbul. I flew through there a few years ago and had similar problems. I had a 3 hour layover with some German colleagues, and we all wanted to go out and have a kebab or something and just tool around Istanbul for a bit. The Germans could go through customs just fine and dandy, but they wanted me (the American) to buy a $30 Visa. For two hours in Turkey? Are you fucking crazy? I pretty much told those customs officers to fuck themselves.

Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story.


Wow hold on there, do you have any idea how are the citizens of Turkey are treated in customs of States, and how difficult it is to acquire a visa even after the needlessly harsh treatment. And you can bet that it wont end good for you if you tell the US customs staff to fuck themselves.

I am sure a lot of turkish officials at the customs are assholes, and as Jinro already put, them and their attitudes were the only problem. But that doesn't imply any more things than that.

That is not directly about the political relations you kinda mentioned, it is more about this undisclosed "treat the x country's citizens as our citizens are treated at x" thing in customs. Especially the retarded assholes amongst the turkish customs officials can only be happy to proceed the way their counterparts at the US do.


"Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story."

You can talk about a story that even you mention that you don't know about? that is neat.
Turkey has been one of the founding countries of NATO, it was a member before Western Germany or Spain, There has even been a Turkish Deputy Secretary General for NATO.

Peace-out.


The best part about this side discussion is that HuK is indeed, Canadian. Racial profiling is ALWAYS bad, not just when American's do it.

Also since many Liquid guys seem to be reading this it's as good a place as any: good luck in all your upcoming matches guys, recent struggles be damned we know you guys can perform! Foreign GSL champion =]]]
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
quentel
Profile Joined March 2011
349 Posts
April 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#80
The entire airport spiel was basically just a average, normal trip to one for most people.


Scrutinizer
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
April 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#81
On April 22 2011 05:21 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 05:03 Scrutinizer wrote:
On April 22 2011 01:03 Nicodemusher wrote:
What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency?

I died.


It is for the foreigners who needs a Visa to enter the country, it is not weird that it won't be paid in local currency. It is in fact a convenience for the foreigners, I cant imagine a foreigner could pay for the visa in their own country's currency at John F. Kennedy airport.

On April 22 2011 02:03 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
Link to the EPS announcement?

I sympathize with you guys trying to deal with customs at the airport in Istanbul. I flew through there a few years ago and had similar problems. I had a 3 hour layover with some German colleagues, and we all wanted to go out and have a kebab or something and just tool around Istanbul for a bit. The Germans could go through customs just fine and dandy, but they wanted me (the American) to buy a $30 Visa. For two hours in Turkey? Are you fucking crazy? I pretty much told those customs officers to fuck themselves.

Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story.


Wow hold on there, do you have any idea how are the citizens of Turkey are treated in customs of States, and how difficult it is to acquire a visa even after the needlessly harsh treatment. And you can bet that it wont end good for you if you tell the US customs staff to fuck themselves.

I am sure a lot of turkish officials at the customs are assholes, and as Jinro already put, them and their attitudes were the only problem. But that doesn't imply any more things than that.

That is not directly about the political relations you kinda mentioned, it is more about this undisclosed "treat the x country's citizens as our citizens are treated at x" thing in customs. Especially the retarded assholes amongst the turkish customs officials can only be happy to proceed the way their counterparts at the US do.


"Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story."

You can talk about a story that even you mention that you don't know about? that is neat.
Turkey has been one of the founding countries of NATO, it was a member before Western Germany or Spain, There has even been a Turkish Deputy Secretary General for NATO.

Peace-out.


The best part about this side discussion is that HuK is indeed, Canadian. Racial profiling is ALWAYS bad, not just when American's do it.

Also since many Liquid guys seem to be reading this it's as good a place as any: good luck in all your upcoming matches guys, recent struggles be damned we know you guys can perform! Foreign GSL champion =]]]


Maybe country profiling is a better choice of word instead of racial (Turks are originally from central asia and have no connection whatsoever to arabs racially, if that is what you meant by racial profiling) I agree that profiling is always bad, that is what I tried to tell, I am sorry if that is not clear.
Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
April 21 2011 21:07 GMT
#82
Other people play wesnoth O.O
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 21 2011 21:52 GMT
#83
On April 22 2011 05:51 Scrutinizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 05:21 red_ wrote:
On April 22 2011 05:03 Scrutinizer wrote:
On April 22 2011 01:03 Nicodemusher wrote:
What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency?

I died.


It is for the foreigners who needs a Visa to enter the country, it is not weird that it won't be paid in local currency. It is in fact a convenience for the foreigners, I cant imagine a foreigner could pay for the visa in their own country's currency at John F. Kennedy airport.

On April 22 2011 02:03 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
Link to the EPS announcement?

I sympathize with you guys trying to deal with customs at the airport in Istanbul. I flew through there a few years ago and had similar problems. I had a 3 hour layover with some German colleagues, and we all wanted to go out and have a kebab or something and just tool around Istanbul for a bit. The Germans could go through customs just fine and dandy, but they wanted me (the American) to buy a $30 Visa. For two hours in Turkey? Are you fucking crazy? I pretty much told those customs officers to fuck themselves.

Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story.


Wow hold on there, do you have any idea how are the citizens of Turkey are treated in customs of States, and how difficult it is to acquire a visa even after the needlessly harsh treatment. And you can bet that it wont end good for you if you tell the US customs staff to fuck themselves.

I am sure a lot of turkish officials at the customs are assholes, and as Jinro already put, them and their attitudes were the only problem. But that doesn't imply any more things than that.

That is not directly about the political relations you kinda mentioned, it is more about this undisclosed "treat the x country's citizens as our citizens are treated at x" thing in customs. Especially the retarded assholes amongst the turkish customs officials can only be happy to proceed the way their counterparts at the US do.


"Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story."

You can talk about a story that even you mention that you don't know about? that is neat.
Turkey has been one of the founding countries of NATO, it was a member before Western Germany or Spain, There has even been a Turkish Deputy Secretary General for NATO.

Peace-out.


The best part about this side discussion is that HuK is indeed, Canadian. Racial profiling is ALWAYS bad, not just when American's do it.

Also since many Liquid guys seem to be reading this it's as good a place as any: good luck in all your upcoming matches guys, recent struggles be damned we know you guys can perform! Foreign GSL champion =]]]


Maybe country profiling is a better choice of word instead of racial (Turks are originally from central asia and have no connection whatsoever to arabs racially, if that is what you meant by racial profiling) I agree that profiling is always bad, that is what I tried to tell, I am sorry if that is not clear.


Ya I get that it's nationality profiling, but because people are so intermingled racially now, you can't tell the difference between so many different races, so attempting to profile a nationality ends up in broader racial profiling(see: every middle eastern person, or back in ww2, every asian person, or every eastern european during the cold war, so many examples).

I didn't mean that you were malicious in your description, just that it's funny that the whole thing (assumedly) stems from HuK looking American, but he's not! Anyhow, didn't mean it to start an argument or anything(plenty of other politically charged threads to discuss it in).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 21 2011 22:09 GMT
#84
On April 22 2011 05:21 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 05:03 Scrutinizer wrote:
On April 22 2011 01:03 Nicodemusher wrote:
What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency?

I died.


It is for the foreigners who needs a Visa to enter the country, it is not weird that it won't be paid in local currency. It is in fact a convenience for the foreigners, I cant imagine a foreigner could pay for the visa in their own country's currency at John F. Kennedy airport.

On April 22 2011 02:03 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
Link to the EPS announcement?

I sympathize with you guys trying to deal with customs at the airport in Istanbul. I flew through there a few years ago and had similar problems. I had a 3 hour layover with some German colleagues, and we all wanted to go out and have a kebab or something and just tool around Istanbul for a bit. The Germans could go through customs just fine and dandy, but they wanted me (the American) to buy a $30 Visa. For two hours in Turkey? Are you fucking crazy? I pretty much told those customs officers to fuck themselves.

Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story.


Wow hold on there, do you have any idea how are the citizens of Turkey are treated in customs of States, and how difficult it is to acquire a visa even after the needlessly harsh treatment. And you can bet that it wont end good for you if you tell the US customs staff to fuck themselves.

I am sure a lot of turkish officials at the customs are assholes, and as Jinro already put, them and their attitudes were the only problem. But that doesn't imply any more things than that.

That is not directly about the political relations you kinda mentioned, it is more about this undisclosed "treat the x country's citizens as our citizens are treated at x" thing in customs. Especially the retarded assholes amongst the turkish customs officials can only be happy to proceed the way their counterparts at the US do.


"Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story."

You can talk about a story that even you mention that you don't know about? that is neat.
Turkey has been one of the founding countries of NATO, it was a member before Western Germany or Spain, There has even been a Turkish Deputy Secretary General for NATO.

Peace-out.


The best part about this side discussion is that HuK is indeed, Canadian. Racial profiling is ALWAYS bad, not just when American's do it.

Also since many Liquid guys seem to be reading this it's as good a place as any: good luck in all your upcoming matches guys, recent struggles be damned we know you guys can perform! Foreign GSL champion =]]]

Actually HuK is American, he just happened to move to Canada.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 21 2011 22:56 GMT
#85
The TeamLiquid logo on that Jumbo is Photoshoped, right?

(For anyone who wonders, there is an actual SC2 Korean Jumbo, I saw it in Chichago last July and it is beyond amazing!)
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
April 22 2011 00:03 GMT
#86
I love these updates on the team. Do any other Starcraft teams do this kind of self-promotion? I'd love to read about them in a concise, newsletter fashion like this but I haven't seemed to have found something comparable.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 22 2011 00:04 GMT
#87
What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency?


Yeah wtf?
I feel bad man, those airports sound terrible.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
DeathPengu
Profile Joined January 2011
Taiwan137 Posts
April 22 2011 06:16 GMT
#88
"What the f**k kind of country doesn't take their own currency?" lol

Feel sorry for that painful flight, it sounds like a real nightmare. And Jinro, Huk fighting!!!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 22 2011 09:13 GMT
#89
Good decision TLO!
Cathasaigh
Profile Joined April 2010
United States285 Posts
April 22 2011 17:16 GMT
#90
On April 21 2011 19:47 marcesr wrote:
But what is most frustrating is the date of the announcement, why just 8 days before the game vs Socke??


It said in the article "You are hearing about Dario withdrawing 8 days in advance not because we waited that long, but because EPS used this time to look for a solution." So nothing on TLO or TL's side that was wrong there.
This is the tale of Captain Jack Sparrow!
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
April 22 2011 20:46 GMT
#91
TLO... he belongs to the world!

He's the first SC2 genius... I think few would question that.

Ask Boxer.
www.KoshkaTV.com
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
April 22 2011 20:47 GMT
#92
On April 23 2011 05:46 dsousa wrote:
TLO... he belongs to the world!

He's the first SC2 genius... I think few would question that.

Ask Boxer.


Ask Nazgul
www.KoshkaTV.com
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
May 31 2011 21:07 GMT
#93
where the fuck is the next weekly?
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