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Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
April 18 2011 18:16 GMT
#81
July not in any of your favorites for groups?

Well written, Well read!

This will be the GSL to beat this year
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
April 18 2011 18:29 GMT
#82
Heh at Inca being as old as the hills in SC2 (I feel he's kind of like Zenio). I'll be very surprised if Huk makes it out of the group stage to be honest.
the farm ends here
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
April 18 2011 18:39 GMT
#83
Damn so many oGs players!
And Group A... what a killer
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
April 18 2011 18:50 GMT
#84
I have a hard time taking the opnions of anyone who doesn't think MC is the favorite to win seriously
With that said, I actually made my own picks/predictions without looking, and I have the exact same as Xxio, minus having Alicia instead of SuperNova for Dark Horse.

My group predictions:

Group A:
=======================

MC > TheWind
SuperNoVa > Polt

MC > Polt
SuperNoVa > TheWind

MC > SuperNoVa
TheWind > Polt

MC
SuperNoVa
TheWind
Polt

Group B:
=======================

sC > RainBOw
TOP > Byun

TOP > sC
RainBOw > Byun

sC > RainBOw


TOP
sC
RainBOw
Byun


Group C:
=======================

Kyrix > HongUn
LosirA > Genius

LosirA > HongUn
Genius > Kyrix

Genius > Kyrix

LosirA
Genius
Kyrix
HongUn

Group D:
=======================

NaDa > MarineKing
Alicia > Zenio

NaDa > Zenio
Alicia > MarineKing

Alicia > NaDa
MarineKing > Zenio

Alicia
NaDa
MarineKing
Zenio

Group E:
=======================

san > Jinro
NesTea > Clide

Clide > san
NesTea > Jinro

san > Clide

NesTea
san
Clide
Jinro

Group F:
=======================

Lyn > FruitDealer
Killer > Check

Check > Lyn
Killer > FruitDealer

Lyn > Check

Killer
Lyn
Check
FruitDealer

Group G:
=======================

anypro > Virus
Trickster > Ensnare

Ensnare > anypro
Trickster > Virus

anypro > Ensnare

Trickster
anypro
Ensnare
Virus

Group H:
=======================

July > Rain
HuK > InCa

July > InCa
HuK > Rain

July > HuK
InCa > Rain

July
HuK
InCa
Rain
SooYoung-Noona!
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
April 18 2011 19:19 GMT
#85
On April 18 2011 23:17 Azuroz wrote:
some quite odd opinions in the write-up, supernova winning code s? lets be real here..
and oGsthewind being outclassed in his group? he was inches from beating san in the ro16 last season in one of the cleanest ZvP series i've ever seen from a zerg player.

Also calling nestea vs san a snoozefest? was easily the most entertaining game from the entire last season. It's sad to see protoss hate even in the TL writeups, really dissapointing.

I play protoss...

I urge people to rewatch the San vs NesTea game. NesTea made a handful of really poor choices after going down a base. San didn't kill himself, sat back and expanded, which was good enough for the win. Listen to the commentary. Towards the end of the game Tasteless breaks a silence with something to the effect of "This is one of the best GSL games ever." And then there's another long silence and then Artosis agrees in a bored voice.

Awful game.

On April 19 2011 01:01 GhostLink wrote:
Not mentioning MVP in "Guaranteed Promotion"? lol just throwing it out there

Good point. I think MVP is pretty much guaranteed promotion too, but we only pick one player, and I thought that if Bomber could get past his first game against Destination than he'll have no problem with either of his next round opponents. I can't answer for the staff who picked MMA though. I don't think he's nearly as good as MVP either.

On April 19 2011 01:38 R3N wrote:
Super biased article- Ofc it's just predictions n whatnot but this article was using too much strong language even borderline insulting to some players xD but that's just probably me =P

It's not just you. We all think some players are better than others. I, personally am nearly always proven wrong, but we're just as much critics as commentators.

On April 19 2011 02:35 thepuppyassassin wrote:
You know I find myself less excited about this Code S lineup than previous ones. Mainly because a lot of the players that I feel should be in Code S have yet to qualify or have dropped down.

Some players that I feel that should be there are T: MMA, Ryung, MVP, Bomber, Puma and Boxer (mostly because he's Boxer) Z: Leenock, maybe Min P:YongHwa

Also there are many players that I feel just don't belong...
Tolt, Rain Z:TheWInd, Check (really unsure about protoss if I had to pick...) P: anypro, Killer

What this tournament feels like then is simply an obstacle, getting in the way of a tournament I really WANT to see.

Actually, I find Code A this time around far more fascinating than Code S.. I guess I can place some blame on the team league for getting me excited for so many players that we have yet to see in those coveted brackets.

So I guess I'll be rooting and predicting for those guys I just mentioned (who actually have made it into the tournament) to both qualify for and drop down from Code S, respectively.

I think this is the second straight season where Code A could hold its own with Code S. The talent ceiling for Code A actually might be higher this season. Last season I thought that Code A's final four were better than the Code S equivalents.

Which leads me to:
On April 19 2011 00:18 Cel.erity wrote:
Sorry but this writeup makes me wonder if you watched the GSL at all for the past couple of seasons/team leagues...

RainbOw was fading, sure, but he's shown brilliant play ever since his up-and-down match. I actually think he's poised to make a comeback in this season, but you didn't even mention his recent performances. Likewise, Polt dominated Supernova in the up-and-downs, those games did not look reasonably close, but you didn't mention that either. I don't see how Supernova can be favored to win the entire tournament after losing to Losira, Polt, and Ryung in uninspiring fashion.

Code A being stronger than code S last season? You really think if they extended up-and-down matches to all 32 players, that more code A players would win than code S players? Of course not. That comment actually makes me angry, it's like an insult to the players who worked hard to achieve and maintain code S status.

Also, you called san vs NesTea a snoozefest...a snoozefest?!?! That game is rightfully heralded as one of the most entertaining and recommended games in the history of the GSL. How can anyone not be looking forward to a rematch between those two?

Sorry but there's just so much misinformation here, it really upsets me to read. A lot of people probably rely on these recaps to stay informed.

Surely people don't rely on the preview to stay informed on anything but the match-ups?

We'll see about RainBOw, but I didn't find a 2-0 of BanBanSsu and a 3 kill of an awful Prime team to be extremely convincing. Moreover, TvT is not a good match-up for him, and his group has two better TvT players in it. But we'll see.

And we'll also see about SuperNoVa and Polt. I think SuperNoVa is by far the better player with a much larger upside and much better practice partners. But perhaps my estimate of him as a tournament threat is overstated.

Not all players work equally hard to maintain Code S status. Falling out of Code S is nearly impossible. There are plenty of examples of this. I've already said this, but I'd take the final 4 of Code A last season over the final four in Code S this season.

***

Thanks to everyone who posted or pm'd me corrections!
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lilky
Profile Joined January 2011
United States131 Posts
April 18 2011 19:20 GMT
#86
oGsMC fighting!
Prem_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States85 Posts
April 18 2011 19:26 GMT
#87
Go Jinro and HuK!
The only good job is a blow job.
Markam
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland71 Posts
April 18 2011 19:52 GMT
#88
I hope I'm wrong but I think HuK and Jinro won't make it to the second round.
ZergMaestro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
April 18 2011 20:05 GMT
#89
Haha Huk over Inca? With how Huk has been playing? I think Inca has a better chance of taking the group.

and like always July is my pick to win the gsl. aww hell yes.


Ma Jae Yoon #1. The ONLY Maestro. Effort.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
April 18 2011 20:06 GMT
#90
I'll eat my hat if HuK advances out of that group. Jinro has a good shot at making it tho, hes by far the 2nd best player in that group, NesTea being the supreme player there.

Very good writeup, agree with the snooze fest, and about RainbOw!
Dead girls don't say no.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
April 18 2011 20:17 GMT
#91
SuperNova's TvT is his weakest matchup and Polt owned him up in the Up and Down matches. With tht alone, i find it hard to understand why u think Supernova will easily beat him. Also don't underestimate TheWind, he was a couple decisions away from getting into the Ro8 last season. He may not be a favourite to get out of the group, but to call him a mediocre zerg is a little harsh when he's an extremely intelligent player.

Byun's TvT isn't tht poor and scfOu's TvT isn't tht much better. While scfOu's win percentage may be higher, he hasn't had any too notable TvT wins apart from MKP. Both of them lost to TOP but Byun's series had way more inspiring play.

Huk is very bold prediction as he probably won't beat Inca unless he gets extremely lucky. He could probably beat Rain but he has lot his past matches against two of the players in his group.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
tensionz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States130 Posts
April 18 2011 20:24 GMT
#92
All groups look pretty nice. :D
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 18 2011 20:44 GMT
#93
There needs to be a "guaranteed runner up" slot so we can give it to MKP. Start the SC2 Kong line!!!
JayDee_
Profile Joined June 2010
548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 21:11:08
April 18 2011 20:54 GMT
#94
Quality analysis. I agree with almost everything you wrote.

However, I think you are greatly overrating SuperNoVa. He lost to Polt, hasn't faced a true top tier player, and completely choked under pressure in the Code A finals.

His match vs Squirtle was his highest profile win. I think Squirtle played rather poorly

Also, inca has shown himself to be a better toss than huk. I hope I'm wrong.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
April 18 2011 21:05 GMT
#95
On April 19 2011 02:26 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 01:04 Telcontar wrote:
How could y'all forget that MVP is in code a? Sure Bomber and MMA are good players but MVP is right up there with MC as contender for best in the world right now. Watch him rip through every nerd standing in his way to code s.


Yep, it's pretty sad when you can win a couple of GSTL games and all of a sudden become a top player. While winning 2 GSL's and having 2 GSTL finals appearances mean nothing.


It doesn't mean nothing, but he will likely be playing Min in the Ro16 and he needs to reach Ro8 to get to the Up/Down matches. His spot in the Ro8 isn't nearly as secure as Bomber or MMA.
Allied
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States129 Posts
April 18 2011 21:09 GMT
#96
really good read. Jinro too good
twitter: @AlliieD
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
April 18 2011 21:46 GMT
#97
On April 19 2011 05:17 blooblooblahblah wrote:
SuperNova's TvT is his weakest matchup and Polt owned him up in the Up and Down matches. With tht alone, i find it hard to understand why u think Supernova will easily beat him. Also don't underestimate TheWind, he was a couple decisions away from getting into the Ro8 last season. He may not be a favourite to get out of the group, but to call him a mediocre zerg is a little harsh when he's an extremely intelligent player.

Byun's TvT isn't tht poor and scfOu's TvT isn't tht much better. While scfOu's win percentage may be higher, he hasn't had any too notable TvT wins apart from MKP. Both of them lost to TOP but Byun's series had way more inspiring play.

Huk is very bold prediction as he probably won't beat Inca unless he gets extremely lucky. He could probably beat Rain but he has lot his past matches against two of the players in his group.

SuperNova's TvT has improved a lot since the GSL and GSTL, recently 2-0 select and Ensnare. I think TheWind will go down, because he just does not the "drive"the other plays do, he probably will be happy to drop out and focus on coaching. I think would also rather have MC and SuperNova progress instead of him.
And yes, choosing Huk, very courageous.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 18 2011 21:53 GMT
#98
On April 19 2011 06:05 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 02:26 zyzq wrote:
On April 19 2011 01:04 Telcontar wrote:
How could y'all forget that MVP is in code a? Sure Bomber and MMA are good players but MVP is right up there with MC as contender for best in the world right now. Watch him rip through every nerd standing in his way to code s.


Yep, it's pretty sad when you can win a couple of GSTL games and all of a sudden become a top player. While winning 2 GSL's and having 2 GSTL finals appearances mean nothing.


It doesn't mean nothing, but he will likely be playing Min in the Ro16 and he needs to reach Ro8 to get to the Up/Down matches. His spot in the Ro8 isn't nearly as secure as Bomber or MMA.



Err. This is MVP's TvZ you're talking about. I wouldn't be worried about him losing to a zerg that won two games ina GSTL (min)
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JuiceBoxHero
Profile Joined January 2011
117 Posts
April 18 2011 21:58 GMT
#99
I feel like people want to argue the predictions just for the sake of argument, but i guess thats what theyre there for. Someone saying TheWind isnt a great player doesnt suddenly make him bad, and in short bit of time well all get to see how this plays out. Personally i loved the predictions, mostly cause im a huge SuperNova fan...SuperNova hwaiting(how do you spell that?)!!!
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
April 18 2011 22:08 GMT
#100
So psyched for groups D and E!!! I'll probably be rooting for MKP and Alicia, though in E I'm less sure, maybe San + Jinro. I have a feeling Jinro won't be advancing though... but if he does fall to Code A then he'll come back next season stronger than ever. Also, Huk fighting! I have a feeling he'll go far
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