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[GSL] "Gods of War" - March Finals Preview - Page 16

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Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
March 19 2011 08:02 GMT
#301
Not good games.

To short... dull :/
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Ozzon
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland110 Posts
March 19 2011 08:02 GMT
#302
I don't know if FF should be nerfed but ffs, the ability to block all reinforcements with one FF and zerg having NO ability to do anything about it is just retarded.
BooRadl3y
Profile Joined March 2011
United States38 Posts
March 19 2011 08:02 GMT
#303
that was utter domination...
qwert_
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany31 Posts
March 19 2011 08:03 GMT
#304
On March 19 2011 16:56 Whatevers wrote:
oh sjeesj MC where is the sportsmanship? It's only quick timing attacks.... yawn for more forcefields. But then again if you're ahead get further ahead? -.-



mc was going for heavy macro in set 3, july killed him with the drop, so why bpther doing that again? and then again, mc was way ahead in macro the last set. didn't understand the 3rd of july either. how would he defend those chokes ever?
CryMore
Profile Joined March 2010
United States497 Posts
March 19 2011 08:05 GMT
#305
Sooooo many sentries O_O....That DT opening was also very handsome.
"What wins? 3-base Protoss or 2-base Zerg?" "1-base Terran"
jorge_the_awesome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 08:10:21
March 19 2011 08:09 GMT
#306
Fail toss in air

Nice job though MC and oGs
"Clothes are stupid"-Tastosis "Every dragoon that has ever been made is dumber than a bowl of hair" -Day[9] "Where are you going to take this skill now?" Stephano- "To the bank!" "Baby stuck under a car and you can't lift it up? What a wimp"-Artosis
pandaBee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 08:11:31
March 19 2011 08:11 GMT
#307
On March 19 2011 16:56 Whatevers wrote:
oh sjeesj MC where is the sportsmanship? It's only quick timing attacks.... yawn for more forcefields. But then again if you're ahead get further ahead? -.-

No man

when MC is ahead he KILLS

but in all honestly they were quite even on the last one, it was just the FF and that DT that cinched it
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 08:18:03
March 19 2011 08:12 GMT
#308
It kind of emphasized what we already knew: Zerg can't win unless Toss makes a mistake. MC doesn't make many, and forcefields are pretty ridiculous.

There's just so many situations where FF turns things into an auto-game loss (mostly where ramps are concerned). I get the feeling that if something doesn't change relating to it that Zerg are going to get ROFLstomped by most Protoss in a season or two, unless MC is just unnaturally good with his forcefields and nobody can ever equal him.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
March 19 2011 08:13 GMT
#309
I think this is one of the first times that I've ever predicted a finals accurately.
Disarm22
Profile Joined January 2011
United States151 Posts
March 19 2011 08:13 GMT
#310
after watching the finals match I am now convinced that ZvP is 100% broken. Yes MC is a beast but so is July and MC made it look too easy. It might as well been myself (plat zerg) playing MC. It is going to take a lot more than an infestor buff to fix this. I really hope blizzard looks into this matchup more closely because it is without a doubt broken. FF's on ramps and 4 gates....If you do manage to stay alive then as a zerg you must not over make or under make your corruptors to combat the imminent colossi....Protoss has the upper hand as every point in the match. The zerg literally has to struggle each time to win while the toss makes it look so easy.... common blizzard help the zerg out
Cliiiiiiide!
pandaBee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
March 19 2011 08:14 GMT
#311
On March 19 2011 17:12 iamthedave wrote:
It kind of emphasized what we already knew: Zerg can't win unless Toss makes a mistake. MC doesn't make many, and forcefields are pretty ridiculous.


i would disagree with you. in a pro game like this one mistake can lose you the game and this goes either way regardless of whether you're T, P or Z
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
March 19 2011 08:17 GMT
#312
On March 19 2011 17:13 Disarm22 wrote:
after watching the finals match I am now convinced that ZvP is 100% broken. Yes MC is a beast but so is July and MC made it look too easy. It might as well been myself (plat zerg) playing MC. It is going to take a lot more than an infestor buff to fix this. I really hope blizzard looks into this matchup more closely because it is without a doubt broken. FF's on ramps and 4 gates....If you do manage to stay alive then as a zerg you must not over make or under make your corruptors to combat the imminent colossi....Protoss has the upper hand as every point in the match. The zerg literally has to struggle each time to win while the toss makes it look so easy.... common blizzard help the zerg out


If july had spread his creep more and not taken his 3rd at such a bad location he would have done alot better because he would have been able to engage MC in a larger area with creep.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
jorge_the_awesome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States463 Posts
March 19 2011 08:18 GMT
#313
Just a question about the GSTL: Since oGs and TL are essentially the same team, will Jinro and Huk possibly be in the GSTL? Jinro went up with the rest of the team to congratulate MC, and they do practice together/live together.
I want to see HuK and Jinro in the GSTL (along with MC and NaDa of course).
"Clothes are stupid"-Tastosis "Every dragoon that has ever been made is dumber than a bowl of hair" -Day[9] "Where are you going to take this skill now?" Stephano- "To the bank!" "Baby stuck under a car and you can't lift it up? What a wimp"-Artosis
Disarm22
Profile Joined January 2011
United States151 Posts
March 19 2011 08:19 GMT
#314
If july had spread his creep more and not taken his 3rd at such a bad location he would have done alot better because he would have been able to engage MC in a larger area with creep.


yeah only to have his army split up by a dozen FF's
Cliiiiiiide!
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
March 19 2011 08:21 GMT
#315
On March 19 2011 17:14 pandaBee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 17:12 iamthedave wrote:
It kind of emphasized what we already knew: Zerg can't win unless Toss makes a mistake. MC doesn't make many, and forcefields are pretty ridiculous.


i would disagree with you. in a pro game like this one mistake can lose you the game and this goes either way regardless of whether you're T, P or Z


The difference is that if MC makes a FF mistake he loses his army and can rebuild it.

If he DOESN'T make a FF mistake he wins the game instantly and July Zerg can do nothing. Which is, in fact, what happened in 4 out of 5 games, and in the 5th MC lost because he tried to do something that didn't involve abusive use of Force Fields.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
ShampooSuicide
Profile Joined June 2010
United States58 Posts
March 19 2011 08:22 GMT
#316
I think it is right now just MC ability to use FF better then anyone else. If FF are nerfed in anyway you have to look at the PvT match up protoss would get destroyed by 3 racks play without FFs. Also the fact that no1 goes as heavy sentry as MC really.
pandaBee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
March 19 2011 08:25 GMT
#317
On March 19 2011 17:21 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 17:14 pandaBee wrote:
On March 19 2011 17:12 iamthedave wrote:
It kind of emphasized what we already knew: Zerg can't win unless Toss makes a mistake. MC doesn't make many, and forcefields are pretty ridiculous.


i would disagree with you. in a pro game like this one mistake can lose you the game and this goes either way regardless of whether you're T, P or Z


The difference is that if MC makes a FF mistake he loses his army and can rebuild it.

If he DOESN'T make a FF mistake he wins the game instantly and July Zerg can do nothing. Which is, in fact, what happened in 4 out of 5 games, and in the 5th MC lost because he tried to do something that didn't involve abusive use of Force Fields.


lose his army and rebuild it while july takes the entire map and then some, correct?

but in all fairness, MC played perfectly and julyzerg slipped, even a little opening and mc can pry into it and tear apart the player. i don't think july's loss was a matter of balance between the race, it was more a matter of who was the better player and who came in with the stronger style
justdweezil
Profile Joined July 2009
United States186 Posts
March 19 2011 08:28 GMT
#318
Clearly some issues with ZvP. Zerg has no options... We'll see as time goes by.
Disarm22
Profile Joined January 2011
United States151 Posts
March 19 2011 08:29 GMT
#319
On March 19 2011 17:22 ShampooSuicide wrote:
I think it is right now just MC ability to use FF better then anyone else. If FF are nerfed in anyway you have to look at the PvT match up protoss would get destroyed by 3 racks play without FFs. Also the fact that no1 goes as heavy sentry as MC really.


true no one may use as many sentries as MC atm but now he just showed us how OP they are vs zerg. It will now become very popular and my guess is standard at the pro level. Zerg CANNOT stay on one base vs a toss unless it's roach cheese. The FF exploits the fact that zerg must expand. Simply FF the ramp constantly and then split the army with the rest of your FF's. Anyone who watched the finals has to agree to some extent that FF are ridiculous vs zerg in the early game.
Cliiiiiiide!
qwert_
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany31 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 08:32:55
March 19 2011 08:30 GMT
#320
you also need to take into consideration that for 2 games MC didn't have any detection and July had burrow, yet he only used it like once at the beginning of one of the games. could've done way better with that by dodging the FFs (or even burrowing the damaged roaches, but I can't recall seeing any micro by july there). That's just the one thing that makes the big differences, Protoss really have to be on the edge of micro, when all zerg and terran (for the most part) are doing is a-move
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