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February 1st, 2011 11:03 GMT
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Liquipedia Weekly #14


Cool stuff!


Greetings fellow TeamLiquidians!

No single feature this week, but a fair amount of highlights and shoutouts! There have been some cool initiatives on the wiki lately. Read on and find out!


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by Progman


Sometimes people come up with things to highlight that haven't been thought of before. They weren't expected by the community, or initiated by TeamLiquid's staff. People go out on a creative limb and start a project that's fresh and new, shedding a light on a new bit of info or from a different angle.
At other times, people go the distance by putting just a bit more effort into the looks of their articles to make it all the better. They do a little bit of formatting, upload some images or delve into guides on Wiki-coding to pimp out what they wrote.

Progman falls into both categories, having designed a chart that keeps track of (Wiki)Player progress throughout the GSL tournaments. Massive props and shoutouts to him, as this is a piece of work that very pleasantly surprised us. We implore everyone to give the full article a check-it-out, but here's a small preview:

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Take the example of MarineKingPrime. Going into the January season he is seeded Code S 5th, having been the runner-up in GSL2. Then in January he got second place, and he moves up (green arrow) to be the #2 in the right column representing his seed in March. Cool eh? :D


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by Byzantium


The (Wiki)OnGameNet StarLeague is a most prestigious tournament dating back as far as the year 2000 that saw the first OSL sponsored by Hanaro. With the conclusion on the 2010 Bacchus OSL last saturday, there have been 31 OSLs. When Liquipedia started out, we began cataloguing these events, starting out with the, then, current OSL, and working backwards through the years. With the release of SC2, the project kind of drifted off, with many Leagues still unchronicled.

Recently though, Byzantium picked up where others left. He's delved back in time, not to 2000, but to 1999 starting out with the (Wiki)Tooniverse Progamer Korea Open which was a pre-Starleague tournament. Anyone who's ever seen a Results and Standings thread can imagine what a fuckton of work goes into this kind of thing and imagine, on top of that, that it's an event that happened a decade ago. On top of that, they had some pretty bizarre tournament structures back then. On top of that, imagine doing articles for five of them so far. Massive kudos imo.

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Seriously, who understands this...


BroodWar Strategy
by Aesop

A third notable contributor took care of the almost forgotten Terran Strategy section in LP 1. We are talking about Trap here. Filling out very basic stuff, filling in BOs and basic descriptions is tedious work without much reward, but this man did it for his Terran brethren. His (Wiki)contributions include:
  • In light of the latest OSL results, the now highly popular (Wiki)1 Rax FE (vs. Protoss)
  • An alternative to the 3 Tank 1 Vessel push: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/1_Factory_Tanks_(vs._Zerg)
  • Flash'esque dropship play against Protoss: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Fast_Drop_(vs._Protoss)


Thanks for keeping Wiki1's strategy alive and good luck to all Terrans trying these builds!


Progman, Byzantium and Trap, we tip our hats to you. Give these guys a thumbs-up!

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There's a bit of a lull in notable players being added to Liquipedia and, as always, we need your help!. Strikingly, if you take a look at the (Wiki)GSL 4 Code S players or the (Wiki)Ranking List for TSL3 a number of players are still article-less. Notably so we find (Wiki)Choya, (Wiki)Hyperdub, (Wiki)TheBest, (Wiki)Ciara, (Wiki)Beastyqt, (Wiki)elfi and many more. If you're a fan of either of these guys and want to help us out, simply click the name, copy+paste the text in the spoiler below into the textbox you find and start filling it out. It's that easy.

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So we'’ve had a twitter account for quite some time, as some of you may have found out. Unfortunately, we never really got around to tell you guys here.
However, we'’re proud to present to you LiquipediaNet as the twitter to follow for updates about interesting new pages or pages relevant to that day. If you have any suggestions for content you’'d like to see in our tweets please let us know!




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MiKTeX
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States234 Posts
February 01 2011 11:10 GMT
#2
i like the player progress thing. very cool idea

keep up the good work ^^
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
February 01 2011 11:11 GMT
#3
Conspiracy everywhere!
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Mawi
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Sweden4365 Posts
February 01 2011 11:11 GMT
#4
wow this is really cool and neat!

followed the twitter aswell Thanks for letting us know!
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Believer
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Sweden212 Posts
February 01 2011 11:24 GMT
#5
Awesomesauce, the player progress looks great!

Although it does make me kind of sad to see the gap between IdrA and the next foreigner. :'(
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Sufr1r
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Spain78 Posts
February 01 2011 11:24 GMT
#6
It's nice to see that Brood War Liquipedia isn't dead yet!

What is the font used for titles in this post? It looks really awesome.
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9070 Posts
February 01 2011 11:27 GMT
#7
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Australia899 Posts
February 01 2011 11:50 GMT
#8
I love browsing the Brood War Pages, great work!
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Croatia9527 Posts
February 01 2011 12:09 GMT
#9
Wow, I thought LP1 fell into an oblivion. Glad to see you guys prove me wrong!

This even makes me motivated to finish some projects of my own.
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Tevo
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Netherlands75 Posts
February 01 2011 12:13 GMT
#10
Great work! Love Liquipedia!
Ciraxis
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Australia400 Posts
February 01 2011 12:28 GMT
#11
Awesome feature with the player progress. I'm really impressed. Keep up the brilliant work!
bkrow
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Australia8532 Posts
February 01 2011 13:01 GMT
#12
Awesome to see the community getting involved and helping out the awesome database we have! Much <3 for the LP team and everyone that helps out
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Denmark994 Posts
February 01 2011 13:46 GMT
#13
I'm gonna get right on Liquidopedia article regarding (Z)Ciara =)
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Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
February 01 2011 14:36 GMT
#14
Holy shit that progress page is amazing. Great work, Progman!
Robinsa
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Japan1333 Posts
February 01 2011 14:39 GMT
#15
Love that liquipedia is still progressing but I have to say that I lack the build order help etc that was so massive in BW.
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tofucake
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Hyrule19183 Posts
February 01 2011 15:02 GMT
#16
Strangely enough, you don't need to know that much about SC2 or BW to get started with contributing. Fire up your browser and hit (Wiki)Random Page (or (Wiki)Random Page for LP1) and start spell checking. Make things look nice, etc.

You can organize things, clarify things, add games where a strategy is used, add a Battle Report, restyle a template....there's so much to do and to be done that requires little to no game knowledge at all!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 01 2011 15:19 GMT
#17
Yay, love Liquipedia! Thanks guys!! :D
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South Africa78 Posts
February 01 2011 15:49 GMT
#18
Very awesome. So much helpful stuff, I particularly like the BW strat stuff. Those terran BO's are so clutch.
Long live liquipedia.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
February 01 2011 16:59 GMT
#19
i did an interview with beastyqt, but not in english.

will add that page.
I am not good with quotes
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
February 01 2011 17:10 GMT
#20
i like the player progress thing. its pretty cool =)
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The_Piper42
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States426 Posts
February 01 2011 17:50 GMT
#21
Cool idea. Sometimes I forget about Liquipedia, which is a shame because I know a lot of hard work has gone into it. Keep up the good work!
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Profile Joined October 2009
United States103 Posts
February 01 2011 18:15 GMT
#22
Looks great. I will be checking in a lot more on the player progress
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United States663 Posts
February 01 2011 18:31 GMT
#23
I would love to see more player pages!
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Germany1697 Posts
February 01 2011 18:43 GMT
#24
Nice idea.
Love to read old BW stuff. Brings back so many memories :p
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 18:51:48
February 01 2011 18:51 GMT
#25
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Classic structure for curling tournaments lol.

Loser of 1-2 game faces winner of 3-4, winner of that game faces winner of 1-2 in the final.

I think the player progress chart is awesome.
Vinck
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England20 Posts
February 01 2011 19:09 GMT
#26
I'll try to throw my hat in. If everyone spends 5 minutes each, we could build an ark. Or something.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2749 Posts
February 01 2011 19:27 GMT
#27
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This looks like double elimination. X-1 is the winners bracket, X-2 the loosers bracket.
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Canada2231 Posts
February 01 2011 20:40 GMT
#28
Always love really old broodwar history.
Trap
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 21:19:54
February 01 2011 21:19 GMT
#29
Liquipedia (and StylishVODs) were my best resources when I started playing BW in 2009.There are still many strategies and variations that are undocumented or out of date on Liquipedia, and I feel obligated in some small way to return the favor for anyone interested in the history of or learning to play BW. I hope that by fleshing out some of these articles, more higher skilled players will be interested in making minor corrections rather than having to start from scratch. also writing on liquipedia is a proven fun thing to do when you're snowed in from work repeatedly. :>
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lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
February 01 2011 22:13 GMT
#30
I really love the players progress page!

Really nice job from the wiki staff, keep going!
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fidelity
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden410 Posts
February 01 2011 22:52 GMT
#31
Great stuff! keep it up
Taawus
Profile Joined February 2010
Estonia36 Posts
February 01 2011 23:06 GMT
#32
Trap for the win, you imba you.
Snipinpanda
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1227 Posts
February 01 2011 23:34 GMT
#33
Way to go on LP1 !

But may I ask why the page is labeled as one fact tanks when it's clearly two?
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
February 02 2011 02:41 GMT
#34
O god now terran will be even more OP.

jk LP <3 thanks for the hard work guys! :_

way to go!
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United States403 Posts
February 02 2011 02:55 GMT
#35
Just another big part of a reason why TL is the best website
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Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
February 02 2011 17:41 GMT
#36
Very cool, when we have a few more GSLs, it will be great looking at player progress.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 17:52:57
February 02 2011 17:52 GMT
#37
So regarding the code A/code S charts, it looks like amongst all the code A players who dropped down to play in the pre-lims, only Ace made it back?

That's crazy, that means that the top of ladder (non-code S or A) is way stronger than the bottom of code A right now. If this continues into May, it could mean that Gom is giving code A players too much protection and not giving the up-and-comers enough of a shot - still a neat chart nonetheless.
aisight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States145 Posts
February 03 2011 02:00 GMT
#38
On February 03 2011 02:52 c0ldfusion wrote:
So regarding the code A/code S charts, it looks like amongst all the code A players who dropped down to play in the pre-lims, only Ace made it back?

That's crazy, that means that the top of ladder (non-code S or A) is way stronger than the bottom of code A right now. If this continues into May, it could mean that Gom is giving code A players too much protection and not giving the up-and-comers enough of a shot - still a neat chart nonetheless.

How do you figure? With a potential turnover of half of the entire Code A roster each season, and with the typical ordering in seasons (top seeds are paired up against bottom seeds), you can end up with a completely new set of 32 players in two seasons.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19183 Posts
February 04 2011 15:59 GMT
#39
On February 03 2011 11:00 aisight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2011 02:52 c0ldfusion wrote:
So regarding the code A/code S charts, it looks like amongst all the code A players who dropped down to play in the pre-lims, only Ace made it back?

That's crazy, that means that the top of ladder (non-code S or A) is way stronger than the bottom of code A right now. If this continues into May, it could mean that Gom is giving code A players too much protection and not giving the up-and-comers enough of a shot - still a neat chart nonetheless.

How do you figure? With a potential turnover of half of the entire Code A roster each season, and with the typical ordering in seasons (top seeds are paired up against bottom seeds), you can end up with a completely new set of 32 players in two seasons.

I think you are the only person who actually understands the Code S/A and UpDown matches.
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imyzhang
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada809 Posts
February 06 2011 13:13 GMT
#40
On February 05 2011 00:59 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2011 11:00 aisight wrote:
On February 03 2011 02:52 c0ldfusion wrote:
So regarding the code A/code S charts, it looks like amongst all the code A players who dropped down to play in the pre-lims, only Ace made it back?

That's crazy, that means that the top of ladder (non-code S or A) is way stronger than the bottom of code A right now. If this continues into May, it could mean that Gom is giving code A players too much protection and not giving the up-and-comers enough of a shot - still a neat chart nonetheless.

How do you figure? With a potential turnover of half of the entire Code A roster each season, and with the typical ordering in seasons (top seeds are paired up against bottom seeds), you can end up with a completely new set of 32 players in two seasons.

I think you are the only person who actually understands the Code S/A and UpDown matches.


lol yeah, seems like there's a shit ton more players who don't get the gsl up/down matches, than those who do... (me being one who doesn't).

man when i read 1999 it doesn't seem like that long ago. but when i think about it, that was 12 years ago... jesus, esports has come a long way.
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